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    Compre T61's screen with T60p's UXGA/Flexview/IPS?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MDDZ, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. MDDZ

    MDDZ Notebook Deity

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    Hello,

    I am a long time Dell user and haven’t owned any Thinkpad yet. Now I want to try one. I am amazed that Dell D610’s screen is so inferior to that T60p after reading the T60p review.

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2864&Review=Lenovo+ThinkPad+T60p

    Comparison of Dell 9300 with T60p would be the same in terms screen quality?

    How about comparison of the screens of a T61 (15.4’’) Intel GMA X3100 GM965 w/ WWAN with a T60p’s 15" UXGA (1600x1200) Flexview screen utilizing IPS technology? What is my option if I want to stick with T61? Simply wait?

    I am inclined to buy a T61 (15.4’’, WSXGA+).

    Thanks in advance!

    Cheers,
    David
     
  2. mojoRT

    mojoRT Notebook Geek

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    The difference and awe is definately there when you compare a TN panel (used in your Dell) vs. an IPS screen (like one used in the T60p) - so it's no comparison. From my knowledge, IPS screens have much much greater viewing angles (horizontal and esp. vertical) and better colour reproduction at ALL angles. Usually, the response times on IPS panels aren't a bit slower compared to TNs - fortunately, depending on the user, you may not notice the difference.

    When you mentiona comparison between screen quality, did u mean build quality or display/image quality? Image quality is def'ly not comparable :)

    So far only TN panels have been announced on the T61 - again, TN panels simply don't compare to IPS panels in terms of colour reproduction and viewing angles. They're simply the best and ideal in high end consumer laptops.

    Wait for Lenovo to announce their T61p which is an addition to their T61 line model (supposedly to have better specs) and see what they have to offer.
     
  3. turnerpr

    turnerpr Notebook Guru

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    Ah... this question opens the proverbial kettle of worms... but I'll try to give you a quick answer. IF you work with Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator etc... extensively or work with graphics professionally, nothing IMHO (and many others on this forum) compares to the IPS screens which Lenovo is phasing out. They are simply superior in terms of viewing angles and -- most important -- color reproduction. They aren't brighter or more vivid, but the colors are "true" accurate reproductions that can be calibrated further with software as needed. I have a T60p with a flexview screen that I love for exactly this reason.

    HAVING SAID THAT, if you don't work with visual graphics professionally, you will most likely be perfectly happy with the T61 screen. The brightness is the same (or even a bit brighter) than the IPS screens and the viewing angles (horizontal particularly) are better than average. Of course, the screen is matte rather than glossy, which means you won't have those most annoying reflective glares, but the screen will seem less vivid than the glossy competitors by Sony etc... My big beef with the current T61 screen offerings is that they are all widescreen; as a writer, I prefer to have more vertical (than horizontal) viewing area. (I understand a T61 14.1" 4:3 screen is due to be released soon.)

    Hope this helps. A search of "IPS" or "T61 screen" will yield lots of additional info.
     
  4. MDDZ

    MDDZ Notebook Deity

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    MajorRT,

    I wanted to know the differnece in screen between T60p and T61 in terms of
    viewing angles (horizontal and esp. vertical) and colour reproduction at all angles. You explained everything.

    Based on your input, I will wait for the T61p. Do you happen to know when T61p will come out?

    Cheers,
    David
     
  5. MDDZ

    MDDZ Notebook Deity

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    Turnerpr,

    thanks for your information, which makes me feel I am better educated :)

    Regards,
    David
     
  6. furrycute

    furrycute Notebook Evangelist

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    There will be no more IPS screens on the Thinkpads. Currently you can still get the 15inch IPS screen with the T60 (will cost you $200 extra). Once those are gone, they are gone for good.

    But having said that, keep in mind that almost all Apple Cinema displays use IPS panels. The 20inch one costs about $600. If you really like an IPS panel, you can always purchase an Apple Cinema display and use it as an external monitor.
     
  7. turnerpr

    turnerpr Notebook Guru

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    I agree with MajorRT that it might be worth waiting for the T61p (particularly as they are due out this month) But to be honest I haven't heard anything that leads me to believe that Lenovo will be introducing a better screen panel for the T61p. The specs may vary in terms of resolution but not the type of panel (TN vs. IPS v. M/PVA) The T61p's will come with better graphic card options which will improve screen performance (speed etc...) but won't affect brightness, viewing angles or color rendering.
     
  8. MDDZ

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    furrycute,

    >>Once those are gone, they are gone for good.

    Thanks for this info and it really helps to me to make a decision.

    Regards,
    David
     
  9. BikePilot

    BikePilot Newbie

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    I don't have either, but my current notebook has a 15" UXGA (1600x1200) screen and I really love the resolution. Even my 19" dell flatpannel at work displays less information.