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    Are you kidding me?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by propeller10, Jul 15, 2011.

  1. propeller10

    propeller10 Notebook Guru

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    I was just at the lenovo site and was browsing through the ideapad Y series which they say is for multimedia and gaming. And I wanted to see the specs for newly released Y470 and Y570 models.

    And the only available screen resolution was 1,366x768?

    Are they playing a joke on us?

    edit: It is advertised as a multimedia and a gaming laptop. Most gamers care about the resolution. There isn't even an option to change to higher res display.
     
  2. kirayamato26

    kirayamato26 Notebook Deity

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    No. They are dead serious. In fact, they are so serious that you can't get anything higher.
     
  3. propeller10

    propeller10 Notebook Guru

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    I just don't get why. It doesn't make any sense.
     
  4. kirayamato26

    kirayamato26 Notebook Deity

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    If they had 1600x900 screens or 1920x1080 screens, they might interfere with Lenovo's sales on like the W520 or other models. Lenovo gets much larger margins with ThinkPads, I believe, so they don't want to have their own products compete.
     
  5. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    IdeaPads are consumer laptops and most consumers don't care about screen resolution.
     
  6. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    Rather they have no idea what it is, and companies take advantage of that.
     
  7. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    This has nothing to do with what consumers want or care about. There's no proof "consumers don't care".
     
  8. kirayamato26

    kirayamato26 Notebook Deity

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    So true. :(
    Most people go "What's a resolution? If you want my screen size, it is ___ inches." when I ask for their resolution.
     
  9. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    There maybe no direct truth, but people scream for the cheapest computer and bam, we got hit with 16:9 screens and it has been no turning back since. The average joe schmoe doesn't care whether it's 720p or 1080p, he just wants XX computer to do email and Youtube.
     
  10. Pseudorandom

    Pseudorandom Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think consumers can care about something that most of them don't even know about.

    Its stupid, that 15 inch laptops have screen resolutions that would is ridiculously low even on a 13 inch screen. It sells though, so we have it.
     
  11. MidnightSun

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    Once you start talking screen resolution, the vast majority of people have no clue what you're talking about, which is why the new 16:9 screen resolution names are so effective (HD, HD+, FHD)--they're something ordinary people recognize... and unfortunately, people think 1366x768 HD is good thing.

    But no, not a joke. Historically, the Ideapad Y-series 14" and 15" machines have always had 1280x800 and 1366x768 screens.
     
  12. jason27131

    jason27131 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Uh guys? Have you TRIED a 1920 x 1080 screen on a 14' laptop? The words and screens are so damn tiny it's almost impossible to read anything without getting eyestrain within a minute.

    honestly 1600 x 900 would have been the best for a 14' screen, but I could live with 1366 x 768 on a 14'. A 15' on the other hand, thats a different story.
     
  13. Tsunade_Hime

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    I'm not doubting that 1368x768 on a 16.4" laptop is a crime, but face it, most consumer laptops don't offer more than 1368x768 on 15-16" laptops. And as MidnightSun stated, IdeaPads never had offered high resolution screens to begin with.
     
  14. MidnightSun

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    It's personal preference, really. I've used the Sony Vaio Z with its 13" 1600x900 panel, and loved it. My vision isn't great, but I had no eye strain with the standard (not medium or high) DPI setting in Windows 7. A 1920x1080 14" laptop would be perfect for me, but I'm not holding my breath (the Sony Vaio Z with the 1920x1080 display would probably be great as well... but way out of my price point).
     
  15. ice2642

    ice2642 Notebook Consultant

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    why a big resolution from this ?

    if you buy a fullHD laptop 14/15" you will use it with 125% zoom.

    [​IMG]

    1920x1080 - 25% = 1440x810 (this is the real resolution that you see in the screen) spending your GPU and CPU to work and resize the 1920x1080.

    many manufactures give the FullHD becouse the people quant numbers, but not think about the real use, just want besose is more. like CPU GHZ, much low Hz CPU havemore power than abig Hz and use much less energy.

    The lenovo is right to sell with a real usefull resolution instead give a FullHD with zoon.

    BR
     
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    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    Except many people don't have to use zoom. And not everything is zoomed by the DPI scaling.
     
  17. ice2642

    ice2642 Notebook Consultant

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    off course, use a FullHD in a 15" without zoom. is very good for your eyes. who sell glasses will thank you.

    []'s
     
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    I'm sorry man, but can someone translate what he said? All i got is zoom is bad.

    I'm really sorry, but I just can't understand what you said.
     
  19. ice2642

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    I say,

    without zoom, fullHD resolution in one LCD 15" show very small , and it make you use more your eyes than the usual. and with time it is bad for your healthy.

    sorry, my english is terrible.

    []'s
     
  20. edit1754

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    Only a tiny bit smaller than 1366x768 in an 11.6" screen, and I don't see 11-inch netbook users using DPI scaling.
     
  21. ice2642

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    my actual notebook have 17" MSI GT780R, FullHD. it is unconfortable without the 125% zoom.

    maybe you are young and today it is ok for you FullHD+ in a netbook 10" but when you pass the 40 years old, we can talk again about this ;p

    BR
     
  22. edit1754

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    Like I said, that's not everybody.
     
  23. MidnightSun

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    As I mentioned earlier, I can use the Vaio Z's 1600x900 13.1" screen without "zoom," with no eye strain at all. My 1680x1050 15.4" T500 and 1366x768 11.6" X120e are also at standard DPI, with no issues (in fact, ideally, I'd like higher resolution in both). It's all personal preference.
     
  24. cruzzer

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    dude. this is not a gaming laptop. it a multimedia laptop.
    if you want big resolution. go for gaming laptop such as sager,alienware
     
  25. edit1754

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    The XPS 15 is a multimedia laptop and it offers 1080p

    The HP DV6t is a multimedia laptop and it offers 1080p
     
  26. ice2642

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    I will not buy this 2 :)

    is good to have options for every body, not is ?

    if the guy like 720p, he can buy lenovo, if like 1080p buy XPS, if like FullHD+ buy a gateway XHD3000 monitor and use it with the notebook HDMI

    not more in production, good monitor. http://techgage.com/article/gateway_xhd3000_30-inch_wide-screen/

    BR
     
  27. propeller10

    propeller10 Notebook Guru

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    Exactly. And The lenovo site says that Y series is for gaming. so many people making excuses for Lenovo. lol
     
  28. Tsunade_Hime

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    Gaming laptops doesn't automatically mean high resolution. Some of the base MSI gaming series laptops 15.6" have 1368x768. Alot of refurbished ASUS 17" laptops only have 1600x900.

    Now a majority do offer high resolution panels as nobody wants to spend 3000 on a gaming laptop to have 1368x768.

    Gaming means it has a discreet GPU, usually options for a quad core and have better cooling systems.
     
  29. cdkee

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    When I'm at home I usually just hook the laptop up to my 24" Samsung monitor, so no big deal.
     
  30. edit1754

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    but an external monitor is no substitute to a good internal display, because you can't bring the monitor with you.

    And even then the internal screen still makes a difference in a dual-monitor setup.
     
  31. ice2642

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    the GTX560M not have power enouth for a fullHD game in high setings AAx8 and ATx16 (a had a gt780R with this and Asus G53 with GTX460M)

    the full HD for notbook work just for you have more space in your GUI in windows.

    1366x768 is the best resolution for mobile GPU, you can have high setings with good FPS.

    a gt555m ( I have now the Y570) is ok for this resolution. 720p

    I buy becouse is insuportable use the FullHD in a laptop and 125% zoom you loose quality, 150% much more.

    this companyes made more resolution, for get the costumer. if the number is biger the ppl think is best. and buy.

    and if you think you will se more quality in a 1080p, it is psychologic, your eyes can not see a cell in HD, much less in fullHD.

    is the same a ppl waant see a movie in 200FPS, the eyes can just see 30FPS, any more is just numbers to make a guy buy.

    much more good option a 720p goody quality image LCD than a low quality LCD 1080p like used in clevo and compal. my brother have a clevo 1080p, this is terrible to read, the worst image that I see in my intire live. worst than Asus G53 LCD for get idea.

    my macbook, 1280x800 have a very goody LCD image. this lenovo y570 have a good image quality, not same the mac, but is ok, very close if you look in front, less image angles.

    In the true, what matter is the image quality.

    BR
     
  32. Tsunade_Hime

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    Many 720p screens are AWFUL. I've seen some under 30% color gamut. The trick is marketing, oho it's LED. But most "LED" screens on the market are white LED so their color reproduction is worse than alot of CCFL screens.

    Many 1080p screens have much better contrast ratio, better viewing angles, better color reproduction, and of course in addition to the increased resolution.

    560M should play most games in med/high at 1920x1080. I mean ya, if you crank up AA and AS max, even the most capable GPU's will stutter. My desktop GTX 580 can handle everything high but it is a 500 dollar desktop GPU (convered to laptop pricing, probably 1500-2000).
     
  33. edit1754

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    The quality difference also often results in 1080p screens looking better running games running in 720p than a 720p screen running games in 720p

    You should never go with a 720p screen just because you're a game addict.
     
  34. Tsunade_Hime

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    Some people would sacrifice the 1080p screen cause they are on a "budget". ASUS realized this and started selling their beloved G series with "HD" and "HD+" screens. Though a budget gaming laptop is itself an oxymoron.
     
  35. brosef

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    When I read the title of this thread, I repeated it in my head with a high pitched whiney voice. Try it, lightly entertaining.

    I just received my y570 today and I have no problems with screen resolution. I prefer a dedicated monitor but I'll be fine using a laptop screen.