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    4 Cores and Integrated graphics??

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by gleapman, May 13, 2010.

  1. gleapman

    gleapman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are there any Lenovo notebooks that can be configured with

    15.6 in HD+ display
    i7 4-core processor
    Integrated graphics
    ?

    I'm a developer and need the computing power but not the extra graphics power. Feeling like Goldilocks with the T510 having the right graphics but wrong processor and the W510 just the opposite. Maybe there's a technical reason the combination I want isn't available.
     
  2. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    the new intel integrated GPU lives on the CPU die, and the i7 quad core doesn't have integrated GPU on it. So this is one reason why you will not get what you need.
     
  3. realwarder

    realwarder Notebook Evangelist

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    T510 will be perfect for you.

    The higher Turbo Boost of the Core i7 620m will offset having more cores in the lower clocked i7 720qm, while giving good battery life when mobile.

    VS 2010 flies on this processor.
     
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    era86 Notebook Enthusiast

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    What kind of developer are you? Two cores at a higher clock may benefit more than 4 lower-clocked cores. I do web development and found that having 2 cores is enough to do development on.
     
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    hceuterpe Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah what kind of development?
    I use eclipse with JAS, I can tell you right now, you won't be using 4 cores ;)

    I second the 620m. Turbo boost will definitely be better for you here, as you'll probably only max out at most a dual core CPU, and the those two cores will clock higher on the 620m
     
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    Volker Notebook Consultant

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    This thread proves once again that people that design web pages are not developers :)
     
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    descendency Notebook Consultant

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    Integrated doesn't mean integrated into the CPU, it means within the CPU/Chipset ecosystem. Discrete means that the GPU is outside of that.

    The new intel graphics are "on die" which seems to be equivalent to integrated graphics (in terms of performance. They are physically on the CPU's die though. However they are not actually part of the CPU... yet).

    What the poster is looking for is a "Business class" laptop not a "Workstation class" laptop (that implies powerful discrete graphics + business class build. Unfortunately, the only laptops I know with those specs are consumer ones.
     
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    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    i understand the difference between the integrated and discrete GPU. When i say CPU die, i did not mean the CPU and GPU of the i5 shared the same silicon. Maybe i should of better worded my response to avoid the ambiguity. i5 uses a multi-chip module like the Pentium D processors with the two separate core.

    Yes what you referring to is called the multi-chip module design.

    He wants a quad core i7 chip in a T510 and have the intel integrated GPU too. But that is not going to happen, due to the fact that Lenovo does not use any other integrated graphics on the T510/T410 apart from the intel one that exists on the i3, i5 and the dual core i7 cpu.
     
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    Maybe he does data integration using ETL engines
     
  10. gleapman

    gleapman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry. Didn't know the thread had continued after a week-long break from my original post. Appreciate the additional information.

    I'm a .NET developer, mostly functional corporate websites or administrative portals for public websites, where the graphics don't matter. When I do public websites like retail storefronts, it's just customizing the functionality of a third-party product, so very little graphics work. I do a little data integration using SSIS, but fairly small stuff on my notebook. Also some Microsoft CRM development. Generally, I'll do small to middle sized jobs directly on my notebook. Bigger stuff is done remotely on the customer's server.

    But the information about how the chips work is useful. Thanks.

    I haven't purchased yet, but am now targeting the T510 as suggested. I want to go with the FHD display just for the additional vertical screen real estate which is valuable in the .NET development environment (more lines of code visible, less scrolling). Currently have a WSXGA+. The trend of wider but shorter displays over the past 7 years reduces my efficiency. Now that Lenovo is offering the FHD's again, they appear to be available only in the machines with discrete graphics. I see Dell offers FHD in notebooks with integrated graphics, so I'm assuming Lenovo's decision not to is not for technical reasons, but for supply/marketing/cost reasons. Maybe they believe there are very few customers who would want a higher-end FHD display without the benefits of integrated graphics. Maybe they're right. Then again, maybe the Lenovo displays are significantly different than the Dell displays, so there is a technical reason, so I shouldn't hold out for an FHD display in a machine with integrated graphics.