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    2021 Lenovo Legion 7

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by accar, Mar 7, 2021.

  1. accar

    accar Notebook Guru

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    It's gonna have Ryzen 9 5900hx
    RTX 3080 16gb 165 Watt!
    2 Nvme drives
    and then,

    sRBG screen.....









    what the ****.

    asus rog 2k has a dci-p3 screen but only a 130 watt 3080.
    other lenovos that are cheaper get 4k screens with 100% Adobe RBG.
     
  2. Reciever

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    Not sure what it is that you are trying to convey

    Are you complaining about actually getting the performance potential from a 3080?

    Or is it because you feel it's at the cost of the screen?

    Not sure if things have changed but panel lottery has been around for a while,
    if it's not to spec then of course return it but ultimately not sure about the posts message
     
  3. accar

    accar Notebook Guru

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    I put the exclamation on the gpu cause it's awesome. But we interact with the computer through the screen. If EVERYTHING else is top of the line, why why why skimp on the screen? I need to be able to do content creation on the go, so I cant lug around an external monitor. I need the power this laptop provides, but I need to be able to view it the way it was meant to be viewed. Currently, nobody can do that. Not one single notebook gives you the power AND the screen. ASUS rog has a dci-p3 screen and a weak 3080, alienware gives you crappy cpu and screen, gigabyte gives a good screen i believe, but crappy processor. MSI crappy processor. I don't want an old high energy usage slow intel chip when these awesome AMDs are out. But it is 100% through the models either you get a screen, or power, not both.

    Even the old MSI Creator had an 1100 nit DCI-P3 4k at 120hz but intel i7 and 2080.
     
  4. IKAS V

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    What a weird poll.
    If it’s anything like last gens 500 nit HDR screen will be more than capable for content creation.
    You are getting hysterical for nothing
     
  5. accar

    accar Notebook Guru

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    except the new 2k is only 400 nits (edit, is 500 which is good), and sRBG is a 25 year old standard. The minimum should be adobe RBG, and even that is not optimal for content creation. I'm not making youtube videos. I'm making films on the go. And creator laptops might have the screen, but don't have the power. There is not a single laptop that has both. And it wouldn't cost them or us much more to throw a halfway decent panel on these powerful beasts.
     
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  6. IKAS V

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    “Gamers are spending more time in front of screens. They’re leveling up and want a premium gaming experience with modern design—and we’re here to deliver. Meet the new flagship Lenovo Legion 7 laptop offered with a taller 16-inch screen, 100 percent sRGB color gamut, and new 16:10 aspect ratio for 11 percent more screen real estate to improve your field of view in-game so you never miss a shot.”

    “This made way for the next generation of gaming display technology with millions more pixels than before on a new near-edgeless 16-inch QHD display (2560 x 1600), a serious upgrade over the previous gen’s 15-inch Full HD panel offered. With ultra-high pixel density and a 90 percent screen-to-body ratio, this IPS display offers optional VESA® DisplayHDR™ 400 certification, up to 500 nits of brightness and a 165Hz refresh rate for buttery smooth gaming. For an incredible viewing experience and color accuracy, the Lenovo Legion 7 laptop supports Dolby Vision® which will bring your favorite entertainment to life with stunning picture quality. Combined with NVIDIA® G-SYNC™ your picture quality will look spectacular, plus low blue light and flicker-free Eye Care technology helps to reduce eye strain during long battle sessions. The Lenovo Legion 7 laptop is first to be certified as a High Gaming Performance Display with low blue light by TÜV Rheinland.10”

    https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/p...-goes-all-out-new-futuristic-gaming-machines/

    It has a 100% sRGB color gamut and HDR 400 certified screen at 500 nits.
    I wouldn’t exactly call this “skimping on the screen”
    Should be fine if you need a better screen just get the external monitor that you like .
    This is a gaming laptop first and whatever else you want it to be second.
     
  7. Ed. Yang

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    Could you have quoted the wrong part of the summarized specification?
    Singapore's Lenovo had been takong preorders thru online sales platform and the only number 165 i saw is on their screen specs....
    https://shopee.sg/2021-LEGION-7-82N...80(16GB)-32GB-RAM-3Yrs-i.241017226.8224365463
     
  8. accar

    accar Notebook Guru

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    Like I said, I need it to go too, otherwise I should just get a desktop. These are branded as gaming laptops, yes, but they are also the content creation machines that most content creators use too because they need the horsepower. And 100% sRBG is nothing to brag about and they should be ashamed to do so.
    Heres an article from MSI even: https://www.msi.com/blog/why-dci-p3-is-the-new-standard-of-color-gamut
    Heres an article about gaming with DCI-P3: https://www.benq.com/en-us/knowledge-center/knowledge/is-dci-p3-better-than-srgb-for-gaming.html

    Theres no point to defending them with a color profile from the 90s when the internet still barely existed and full 3D games had just been invented. There is no bragging about the lowest tier of display hdr, it is the absolute budget entry into hdr, but you'll purchase the most premium machine, premium in every way, except for the output... its great that the computer gets to enjoy its components, what are your eyes enjoying?
     
  9. accar

    accar Notebook Guru

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    I believe the 165 I quoted was for 150 watts + 15 watts boost for the 3080. That is the maximum power the 3080 mobile is capable of.
     
  10. Ed. Yang

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    I think your being a drama queen , I have the previous model screen that basically has the same specs and it’s probably the best laptop screen I’ve ever used, it’s colorful and bright and the screen just pops.
    Whatever man , if it doesn’t meet your crazy standards then look elsewhere, I don’t know what to tell you .
    I could care less about MSI screens since they have no Gsync and the last one I had had a OK screen but nothing special.
    The articles you linked say nothing I already dont know and the benq reads like a infomercial trying to sell you **** .
    Your really being hysterical and make very little sense, if you think this is not for you look elsewhere , there is no perfect gaming laptop .
    You want everything when at times you have to make some sacrifices if the screen is the number 1 thing for you get the ASUS ROG it will have more than enough power with the 130W 3080 but not as much as the Lenovo.
    Good luck with your ASUS ....lol
    Like I said earlier it’s a gaming laptop first and foremost and whatever else you want to use it for a distant second .
     
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    I am also eyeing on this model, but I doubt it would be priced around $2300 in US. Kind of too good to be true.
     
  15. mehtenj94

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    Placed an order for one of these in Singapore. Paid around 2300 USD in comparison to the 3300 USD I paid for my returned m17r4. Will update with detailed performance and thermal impressions once I receive it. This is by far the cheapest 150E 3080 laptop out there.
     
  16. IKAS V

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    Congrats man, seeing what this can do will be awesome
     
  17. Ed. Yang

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    The closest configured specification that matches USD$2.3k which you ordered i can find, goes to the far left Legion7 with RTX3070 i can find...
    Screenshot (10).png
    RTX3080 could not be possible...
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    ...unless special discount code is applied. Which makes me wonder... how do you get more than 20% discount code?
     
  18. saturnotaku

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    Jarrod's Tech did a gaming performance review of the 5900HX/RTX 3080 model, and it's quite the beast. If it can be demonstrated that battery drain due to Corsair iCue has been eliminated (hopefully with the removal of iCue integration all together), I may just pick one of these up.

     
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    The marketing for this is false.
    Prema figured out this device infact uses a 115w base 3080 and forces 50 addional w through DB2.
     
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    Just chat with the agent and ask them for a discount. They’ll set you up.


    For all official purposes it behaves exactly like my m17r4 in performance mode. Under max load on both CPU (70-75W) and GPU, the GPU stabilises at 150W. In balanced mode, the TDP is capped to 115W. So this should not be a deal breaker to anyone.

    Quite honestly, in balanced mode, most games will still run at a reasonable FPS with very minimal fan noise. Temps are extremely decent too.
     
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    This is a lot of what I'm looking for in a gaming laptop. The fact the AMD models can use FreeSync and G-Sync is a really nice value-add.

    Is there a link to the US Lenovo store for these yet?
     
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    I found one for the Legion 5 Pro but still no new news of when they'll be released in the US, Lenovo keeps giving out random dates :rolleyes:

    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/coming-soon/Legion-5-Pro-16ACH6H/p/88GMY501578
     
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    Do my eyes deceive me, or does the spec sheet show that USB-C charging is now available? It says "power delivery" but does that mean for the laptop itself or a device connected to it when in sleep mode or powered off?
     
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    Yes the 2021 models supports USB-C charging, I kinda wish the 2020 models supports it too :(.

    Its only 1 seller and its very overpriced for the specs, Noone gonna pay $2k+ for that.
     
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    Yeah the seller on ebay is price gouging and trying to match aliexpress' price for the legion 5 pro.

    r9000p - Buy r9000p with free shipping on AliExpress
     
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    It seems the Legion 7 does not come with liquid metal preapplied.

    Jarrod'sTech on Twitter: "@PvPXan I asked about that, they said no Legion 7's globally are using liquid metal. It could be possible they were misinformed, but that is what they told me." / Twitter

    Presumably, they're doing it this way so that they can get more machines shipped out faster because of the high demand? In any case this is somewhat good news because this means that the preliminary thermals we have seen so far are pretty decent considering the benchmarks have all been done with presumably average/poor nonconductive factory thermal paste. A repaste with liquid metal should bring thermals down pretty significantly.
     
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    That's concerning! Can you please share your source? Thanks a lot!
     
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    Someone else on Reddit ran their Legion 7 with Dynamic Boost disabled. They got 115W sustained power draw.

    Lenovo Legion 7 ( 2021 AMD 3080 ) confirmed base TGP of 115 watt, and Dynamic Boost 2.0 of 50 watts. Why did they choose this route over 150w base and 15w boost? : GamingLaptops (reddit.com)

    In practice its not a concern though. The system happily draws 155-160W sustained under full load when gaming. JarrodsTech comments about this in his gaming benchmark oveview for the Legion 7. Full review is coming soon.

    jarrods tech - YouTube

    Its possible they chose this regime so that it plays more happily with the Lenovo AI Engine.
     
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    Great, that's clear - thanks very much.
     
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    I decided on this preorder today;

    Lenovo Legion 7 (16-inch), Ryzen 9, 32GB RAM, 1TB RAM, RTX 3080, 165Hz QHD

    Tests seem to show that real world difference between 5900HX and 5800H are very minor, but I decided to go all in. Nobody was ever sorry for a extra FPS or two... ;-)

    If the Ryzen 7 gets in stock earlier, I may change my mind, but for now - this is it.
     
  32. Petrov

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    Congrats! Where were you able to preorder this from...?
     
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    A swedish retailer, Inet.se (a nordic machine).
     
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    Jarrod's Legion 7 review dropped.



    Looks like two steps forward (Ryzen, Freesync+G-Sync, better hinges and trackpad, USB-C charging support) and one step back (iCue battery drain and other issues pertaining to keyboard control, defective RGB on the light bar). If you're after a more mid-range specification, the Legion 5 Pro is almost certainly going to be the better option.
     
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    Im glad they improved the hinges, So many people had the same problem with the hinges failing after a few months and there is no excuse for that especially when the Legion 5 has a better hinge design. I still have no idea when they're arriving here in the US nor what the prices will be, I been checking on Reddit everyday to find out but there still no new info and its May so im going to guess they might be released in June
     
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    I have zero concern for this and actually find this a great feature, even at only 115W without DB performance should be amazing and keep fan noise and thermals even cooler.
    Not every game needs the full 150W-165W and having the option to use it or not is a bonus in my eyes.
    Icue software seems pretty useless and would probably disable or just get rid of it altogether to mitigate the battery drain issue
     
  37. Muyfa666

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    My order was more or less cancelled as Lenovo pushed the release date with about 2 months. Oh well.

    EDIT: I couldn't wait, so I ended up ordering a Legion 5 Pro instead.
     
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    Anyone find these anywhere in the US? I'd love to get one.
     
  39. accar

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    nvm wrong thread.
     
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    We have another thread going but I managed to snag a 7i last week prebuilt with 2 day shipping last week. I think the 7 AMD and 7i are going to be identical essentially in performance. 7i with thunderbolt, AMD 7 probably better battery life. If you want one I would check the 7i prebuilt stock on Lenovo's website frequently as it tends to just pop back in stock randomly. Alternatively you can custom order an AMD 7 on Lenovo website. The wait period will say months away, but many have been getting their ship dates moved up sooner. Impossible to get in the US outside of Lenovo directly.
     
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    Ok excellent thank you.

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    Excellent review, thank you!!

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
     
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    Great Review Derek, thanks!. May I ask what's the lapdesk you are using that's visible at the top of your review page? Does it have ventilation under the bottom exhaust? Cheers!
     
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    From
    From this review, it seems that the 5 Pro sits in a comfortable area for gaming at 140w/44db, best sound/power of all laptops you tested. So maybe purely for gaming it is the best choice.
     
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    Tough to say. It's all a matter of preference if you ask me. The L5P is more available, so if you can settle for the 3070, I'd say go for it. But if I had a 3070 version of the Legion 7, I'd probably choose that. Mainly for the vapor chamber and thinner design - I think it's worth the extra $200. Getting rid of that huge logo on the L5P is easily worth $100.