2013 Y500 Any Regrets ? I am having my doubts DDR4 and Haswell

By this time next year or sooner wel will be looking at a Y500 for sale offering Haswell CPU's and DDR4, Haswell is not that big of a deal. But DDR4 will definitely save on battery and really furture proof your laptop in exactly 1 year DDR3 models will be obsolete. And forget about resale value with DDR3.

Besides that the only bottleneck left is RAM and DDR3 is really getting long in the tooth. I am having second thoughts about my Y500. For if you think the poor guys stuck with 650's are jelly of 750's

Imagine next year when the 750's guys will be enraged over a newer GPU, and even more so DDR4 RAM plus lower power but faster Haswell 4th Gen Core i Intel CPU's


Does anyone know more about DDR4 ? when is it really coming on the market ?

 

You do know technology is outdated as soon as it is put on the market; hell, technology is outdated at it's conception. Cars, computers, or anything else that involves any sort of advanced software is going to always depreciate and not be as good as the next year.. These things are investments; the longer you have it the less it really 'costs' you. I know this is a rant, but I hope you understand what I am getting at.. If you use this Y500 for 4 years, you basically paid $250 a year to use it (my price..)

Blaaaah. I feel like this didn't help at all -.-

 

DDR4? I don't see DDR4 gonna offer anything major, and ram is no where the bottleneck on today's consumer laptops. Also don't see how DDR4 gonna save battery consider what today's ram consume compare to the cpu/gpu or screen. I guess sleep time can be much extended , but it hardly matters for most.

 

My point was people with 650's have little reason to be jelly of 750.......BUT next year the 750 crowd will have ALOT of reasons to be jelly of the newer model why?

- Newer CPU tech lower power and faster
- Newer RAM faster uses less power
- Newer GPU much faster than 750 (750 is just an over clocked 650 but next gen will be a whole new Architecture)

So On 3 levels just 1 year from now the Y500 of today will be blown away.

Compared to 650 guys who purchased last year. Have a great GPU and in SLI dual 650's its High end level CPU wise and RAM wise its the same as this years 750. I see people making posts heck giant threads named I just bought a Y500 bad timing ?

Yeah 2013 very bad timing

 

The CPU today is already greater than anything most would really need, even in the next 2+ years. The graphics, with ultrabay and overclocking, will be top performing just as long. Ram is gonna be fine. Stop wanting, and start appreciating what you've got for a while.

 

Why do 750M owners keep claiming that 650M owners are jealous? Does it make you feel good about yourself or something? Low self-esteem issues much?

This goes for everyorne: Just be happy with what you have. Unless you like torturing yourself thinking about how much better the next model or the next next model is gonna be. You shouldn't be buying tech if that's your mindset.

I for one just want a working laptop for once and could care less whether it's 650M or 750M or 850M or Ivy Bridge or Haswell or whatever. My second Y500 just kicked the bucket today after less than 3 weeks of use. Screen went black and speakers went on full blast, AKA the screech of death, while playing Red Orchestra 2. Had to manually power down the machine and now I can't game for a minute without it replicating the same ear-splitting crash. Happens regardless of whether my GPU is overclocked or at stock. Windows Explorer is freezing up and restarting constantly too. Already reinstalled Windows to no avail, not that I expected it to do anything. Most likely some hardware just randomly decided to die. Just my luck I guess. Lenovo is sending me a replacement 750M SLI system which is Y500 #3 and this had better work or I'm done with this piece of sh*t once and for all.

 

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Perhaps the causes of the laptop breaking is user error.

 

User error? What user error? If you've been around these parts for long enough you'll know that I'm not the only one experiencing serious issues with this laptop. Blaming it on the end user is a pretty poor excuse for Lenovo's crappy quality control, not to mention completely untrue. This is a product that could've (and should've) been recalled several times and has had more than its fair share of broken promises and false advertising.

 

Just going to chime in my opinion here. It will be a year before that happens. If you're concerned about ti why don't you sell your 750m--in a year--at a lose and buy the 850m/DDR4/Haswell Y500/400. That is exactly what I will be doing.

 

A few posts deleted. Be nice. Better yet, be helpful.

 

hey octiceps I remember PM'ing you a few times. Your issue does seem pretty alarming... what memory clock were you overclocked at? I"ve been reading lenovo placed the main 650m's RAM modules in an area with less airflow? idk that could be coming out of my

 

1120/2250. That got through a 24-hour run of Unigine Heaven maxed out last week before the laptop bricked so I know it's 100% stable. I was very cautious with overclocking this machine and I went up slowly by 20/10/5 MHz increments on core and memory over a period of one week with plenty of testing between increments and keeping an eye on temperatures the entire time.

 

It probably had to do with your overclock. I don't think anyone running @stock has had these issues.

 

I said it happens at stock as well.

 

I don't think this is a widespread issue as I have not seen multiple reports about it. Statistically it seems to be very improbable. It seems it has happened to twice which is either very coincidental OR (more likely) a user error. Now the only thing that I'm certain you have done is overclock which leads to the conclusion that it was a user error in overclocking.

 

Go up a few posts and read what I wrote before pulling the "user error" card again. I detailed exactly how I overclocked and I'm sure the majority of people out there aren't as cautious or went as slow as I did. Believe it or not, hardware malfunctions, rare as they are, do happen. I once had the "pleasure" of owning a laptop with a G84M which spontaneously decided to fail one day and was never able to run a game or 3D benchmark again without crashing. Turns out it was just one of many, many thousands of GeForce 8 series cards, especially mobile ones, which had a high failure rate due to a manufacturing defect that caused solder joints to weaken over time before finally killing the card. This was a huge deal back in the day and you can read up on it all over the Internets. A class action lawsuit was eventually filed against Nvidia and they settled with several OEM's to repair or replace the defective units, but I was not aware of it until the settlement period had expired. So I have no intention of getting screwed again this time around, especially over a laptop that is brand new.

If you look at this thread I started 1.5 weeks ago, I had already started crashing in games and getting Windows Video Hardware Error messages, well before I ever overclocked the laptop. They were probably a precursor to what happened over the weekend so anyone else who says my bricked laptop is due to "user error" during overclocking is just full of it.

 

+1
i can confirm it happens in stock


I was using stock and the same issue happened. heck, i bought a new laptop, got home, installed nfs mosst wanted nd BAM this issue

had to claim warranty, took 1 month