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    opinions to upgrade old laptop ( acer aspire 5930 )

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by magooody4ever, May 5, 2016.

  1. magooody4ever

    magooody4ever Newbie

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    i have my laptop ( acer aspire 5930 ) since 2008, and it served me to much , but i want to try to upgrade so i can use it from time to time.
    i ran CPU-Z and this is the results :

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    what is the best processor i can use ? core 2 due with higher clock or Quad core processor ?
    is there any chance to upgrade the motherboard itself ?


    i have observed that the processor socket is ( P 478 ) , and i have did some search and i found these options :
    • Intel Core 2 Extreme X9100 3.06GHz SLB48 SLGE7 6MB Socket P 478-pin
    • Intel Core 2 Extreme X9100 3.06GHz SLB48 SLGE7 6MB Socket P 478-pin
    • Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9300 2.53GHz LB5J 12MB Quad-core Socket P 478-pin
    • Intel Core 2 Duo T9550 2.66GHz 6MB Mobile CPU Processor Socket P 478-pin
    • Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile P9700 2.80GHz/6MB/1066MHz Socket P 478-pin
    but i don't know how to check the BIOS capability to use these processors . . !!!


    another thing is the above mentioned processors have thermal power design as 35 watt and higher , while the stock CPU has 25 watt only , how can i reduce/minimize the temperature later ?
     
  2. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Your better off buying a new laptop.. This is totally obsolete and nothing will be much of an upgrade...
     
  3. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Even the cheapest Intel Celeron based notebook will run circles around what you have. It's not worth trying to replace any components.
     
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  4. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    The best (possible) upgrade you can do for this system is throw in the cheapest SSD you can find and install (clean) Windows 10 on it.

    Otherwise, use it as is until you no longer have the patience for it.

    (Agree with all the above remarks too with regards to M/B and CPU 'upgrades' to this platform).
     
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  5. Raidriar

    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

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    As the others have said, a $199 computer will be faster, more efficient, and have longer battery life as well as a host of other features you immediately benefit from.

    That being said if the laptop has some sentimental value to you, I would put the P9700 in there, since it is a low voltage processor. You don't want to stuff a quad core or extreme in there, as those run way hotter than what your thermal system was designed for and will likely throttle or refuse to POST altogether. I would also put in a real budget SSD in there so the thing is usable again...I can't imagine using a 5400RPM drive from 2008. To recap, in order of importance:
    1. SSD
    2. CPU + new thermal paste + throttlestop
    3. RAM

    FWIW, I'm typing off my 2007 T60P with Intel T7200, 3Gb of mismatched RAM, ATI Mobility X1700 256MB, and Intel X25-E 64GB SSD. It is still quite usable for word processing, watching movies, and general backup laptop, but I figure anything made from 2010 and earlier is going to have difficulty processing web pages of today. I know my T60P certainly struggles to play even youtube videos smoothly any more.
     
  6. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @magooody4ever best you can put there without heavy modding:
    CPU - T9900/X9100
    RAM - 2x4GB DDR2
    GPU - 1GB GT240M / 1GB HD4650 / 512MB HD4670
    2x 2.5" storage
    nice 1280x800 screen

    with heavy modding:
    GPU - GT330M
    add mSATA slot
    nice 1920x1200 screen

    But believe upgraded 5930g ex-owner, it will be much better if you sell it by parts and buy a newer machine. It is simply not feasible to upgrade 5930g anymore - otherwise than for fun and bragging on forums. (=
     
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  7. magooody4ever

    magooody4ever Newbie

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    i know that , but it is just a machine will be used for simple activities typing research, posting in forums, downloading and like this ... no any heavy tasks.

    consider i have DELL inspiron 7559 as my primary laptop, but i just want to refresh the old laptop, i may just leave it for any of my family to use it for any thing or learn or watch any thing at.

    i have 4 GB RAM already installed.


    my budget for 100$ only , as below :
    - 64gb SSD :
    33.99 $

    ADATA USA Premier SP600 2.5-Inch 64 GB SATA III Synchronous NAND SSD
    http://www.amazon.com/ADATA-Premier-2-5-Inch-Synchronous-ASP600S3-64GM-C/dp/B009SX8WEQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1462527669&sr=8-6&keywords=64gb+ssd
    or
    29.99 $
    Patriot Torch 60GB SATA 3 2.5 (7mm height) Solid State Drive -With Transfer Speeds of Up-To 530 MB/s read and 430 MB/s write
    http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Torch-height-Transfer-Speeds/dp/B00RHWX1DC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462527669&sr=8-2&keywords=64gb+ssd

    or
    Kingspec 2.5" SATAIII with SMI2246XT controller 64GB solid state drive
    http://www.amazon.com/Kingspec-SATA...=UTF8&qid=1462527669&sr=8-1&keywords=64gb+ssd



    - CPU :
    33.5 $
    intel Core 2 Duo T9600 Mobile 2.8ghz Dual Core Skt P CPU 2.8/6m/1066 Slg9f

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009KXE2YS..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=09N8WZSDVQX5S7VQ8MN9

    - GPU :

    i have no clue what is the best in term of the budget... ?!!!





    any suggestion
     
  8. alexhawker

    alexhawker Spent Gladiator

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    For simple activities like you describe, what about a raspberry PI?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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  9. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @magooody4ever first of all, 64GB SSD is nonsense, since 128GB cost mere couple $ more. T9600 is OK option, but I believe the price is somewhat high. Still, it will deliver current i3 CPU performance at best, and much worse GPU.
     
  10. magooody4ever

    magooody4ever Newbie

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    as for upgrading, i am planning to buy all the stuff as USED parts that is will reduce the amount of spending on this laptop, so i will go with :
    - Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile P9700 2.80GHz/6MB/1066MHz Socket P 478-pin.
    - 500GB SSHD.
    - windows 7 pro .

    also, i have found there is un update for BIOS to move it to versions up from ( 1.21 to 1.23 ) , but i don't know what are the advantages will be bring by this update, even i don't know how to check the maximum capabilities of this BIOS in terms of ( RAM, CPU, .... etc )
     
  11. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Unless you're buying all that stuff together for less than $50, you're wasting your money.
     
  12. Saveikis

    Saveikis Notebook Consultant

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    @magooody4ever I think, that what everyone is trying to suggest to you, is to avoid such upgrades, because at the finished product will gain barely, or almost none increase in performance, since the components are far too outdated and old. And you might end up spending more $$$ that you would when you would buy even a never, used piece of machinery. If your budget is $100, I would recommend you to not do it, save for a little more or try to sell your machine and add up a couple of bucks to buy at least a used, but a never laptop.

    Upgrades as you mentioned, are in 99% cases not worth it, because the increase of the performance will not matter. And as someone mentioned before, the 64 GB SSD drive is a few bucks cheaper than a 120 gig... Because that is probably the only part in your hardware, tat could benefit you in increasing the response rates of your laptop. Other than that, the upgrades for other components are just not worth it...
     
  13. alexhawker

    alexhawker Spent Gladiator

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    An SSHD? Ew.
     
  14. Saveikis

    Saveikis Notebook Consultant

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    Well, the SSHD would be a better solution than a slow HDD, but I would still go for the idea of buying a newer used machine than upgrading your current one... ;)
     
  15. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @magooody4ever Windows 8.1 or 10 will be much better than 7, especially with an SSHD. Regarding BIOS, just flash the latest version and be done with it.
     
  16. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    Look at the 5930G I have in my signature.
    I upgraded it as much as it can go... and that costed me quite a bit over the past 7 and a half years (yeah, its THAT old)... I couldn't afford a new system though over all this time due to finances.

    Do I think the upgrades were worth it? Yes.
    Can't really deny the results, however, I am also waiting to get my hands on a state of the art laptop with potentially all AMD technology in it.
    If I have to, I guess I'll get an Intel CPU + AMD GPU... but, I might just wait for Zen APU's to finally make an appearance in mobile for an all AMD system (mainly due to AMD's innovations that will become more relevant in the future, and I'd prefer to keep the new system I buy for at least 3 years - barring any significant changes in technology of course).

    I do not think sticking a quad core inside that laptop would be possible. I tried it on mine and it refused to boot the OS as a result (the socket pin layout is not compatible even though its supposed to be P45 - there was a second revision of P45 released that supported quad cores).
    Plus, given how the cooling in this particular laptop is barely adequate for the components it originally came with, I wouldn't advise any other CPU than a P9600 or P9700 (its a low voltage CPU running at 25W... a better option).

    RAM would also be expensive, because I remember when I bought 2x4GB DDR2 years ago (from e-bay) that I'm presently using, it costed me $100 at the time.

    I replaced the HDD with a 128GB SSD drive and I took out the optical drive and replaced it with a caddy (which is housing my HGST 500GB 7200 RPM drive for extra storage).

    The GPU... yes, I replaced it with 240M. But I replaced it with 9600M GT back again because the 240M was too unstable (I might give it a go again since the 240M is sitting on a shelf and I now have Windows 10 on this thing - so I'll see if that resolves some issues).
    It was freezing my laptop (if I was running something with the sound at the time, the sound would freeze on a screeching note, continuing endlessly, and producing a black screen - nothing short of forced power down and startup would budge it) when it would get adequately stressed it would seem (under games, and later on in Windows working in 3dsMax, or randomly after enough time either web browsing or wathching a simply vide), and there was no way around the issue (and given how some people on Nvidia forums seem to have stated something similar, someone suggested a faulty VRAM as a potential culprit).

    The RAM and GPU would be most expensive of all the components to invest to (and honestly, I'm not sure investing so much cash in 240M - even if its 50% more powerful - would be advisable given how unstable it was in my laptop... even 'starlight5' experienced the same problem).

    If you are doing a major upgrade in one go... you could get away with upgrading to an SSD and maybe the RAM (also take out the optical drive and put a caddy in it's place).
    Besides that, everything else (the GPU) would be too expensive to invest in with minimal returns.

    Your best bet would likely be getting a completely new system.
     
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    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    I indeed experienced the problem, but only with Battlefield 3 - the notebook hang completely; no problems with other games or apps. Furmark, GTA IV, Fallout New Vegas, TES Skyrim, Civilization series and everything else I thrown at my 5930G with GT240M ran just fine. Again, we're talking about HD4000 performance GPU-wise for GT240M, and about or even below HD3000 for 9600M GT.