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    my laptop is very very hot 100c :O

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by linekhat, Jun 25, 2013.

  1. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    hi all
    i have msi gx740
    and i upgread my cpu i5 430m to i7 740qm
    my laptop go crezy
    the temp in ide 55-65 and in load witch torbo off :confused: and in full mod 100c
    i need a professional solution
    im tinking put a cooler desktop cpu to my laptop :|
    eny one have better solution
    sry my english is so bad
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  2. Idarzoid

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    Try repasting and fit the heatsink properly.

    It could be that your current heatsink isn't up to the task, how many heatpipes does it have?
     
  3. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    this is pic off my hetsink...it have 1 heat pipe
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  4. MrDJ

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    did you change the cpu yourself
    if so what thermal paste did you use to connect the heat pipe to the top of cpu.
    if you did not use thermal paste then DONT TURN IT ON AGAIN until you buy some thermal paste or you will kill your hardware.
     
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    Possible bad paste job. What did you use and how did you apply it?
     
  6. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    lol common men
    im pro not noob
    i use nucta nt h1
     
  7. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    i apply that in best way ....
     
  8. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    i want to now ther is eny chans to use an desktop coller for my laptop?
    eny one now know?
    i gest ineed smallest cooler in the world to put on my laptop
    common my frinds help me out plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
  9. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    Yes, there is a chance to put a desktop cooler in the notebook - it won't be portable anymore and it won't be pretty...


    But, depending on your case/design/electrical and mechanical skills - there is 'a chance'.


    (I wouldn't continue down this road though...).


    Good luck.
     
  10. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    ooo men
    i gest i shud try an other way
    wath i can do
    im so confused
    :("
     
  11. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well im not a mind reader. weve seen noobs use glue before so the question has to be asked.

    oh,hang on. i am a mind reader. im going to will the lottery tonight. 151 million and its all mine.
     
  12. linekhat

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    sry my frind :(
     
  13. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    so eny help??????????????????????????????????
     
  14. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    but your a pro,not a noob. you dont need help.

    unless anyone else has got any ideas.
     
  15. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    No, there aren't any desktop CPU coolers that will fit in a laptop, and they wouldn't be very effective in the confined space inside a laptop anyway, probably less effective than a standard laptop cooling system, which is designed to meet the needs of a laptop environment.

    The first thing to try is repasting. If you really have experience you should recognize that bad paste jobs can happen to anyone. Run the machine for at least a day or two to burn in the paste before you call it hopeless, since paste that has had time to burn in and set can be at least a few degrees cooler than a fresh paste job. Also, what is your ambient temperature - i.e. the temperature where you are running the laptop? My laptop has been running 15-20 degrees hotter than a few months ago, but that's because the ambient temperature is 15-20 degrees hotter.

    You should also give a laptop cooler a try - just a mesh base with some fans either blowing cooler air on the laptop or drawing hotter air away. The effectiveness will be determined largely by the placement of the fans in relation to the laptop's vents and the ambient air temperature.

    If those solutions don't do the job for you, put the i5 back in. If your laptop's cooling system simply can't handle a quad-core processor, don't use a quad-core processor.
     
  16. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    tanx a lot my frind
    you help me so much
     
  17. Kirrr

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    What method did you use to install the thermal paste? And how much?
     
  18. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    i use a littel off thermal on the mide .... iuse that well.......do you know better way?
     
  19. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

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    Ideally, you should spread a very thin layer over the contact surface with a straight plastic card or similar object. If you just put a blob in the middle, it can spread unevenly when you attach the heatsink.
     
  20. linekhat

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    i do that :D
     
  21. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    you know my problem its not solve by thermal paste...
    my problem is big...i gest i go for a i7 640m or i5 580
    i dont know witch one is cooler ?
    but iknow they are like same..becuse the run 35 wat and 740qm run 45 wat
    i gest the 10wat less make my laptop cooler

    my english is very bad sry for that
     
  22. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    The primary issue you will experience is because there is so much heat the TIM will boil out rapidly. This will cause a rapid deterioration of performance. You need a TIM that will not boil out and the only one I know of other than a high performance pad is ICD. I am not saying it will cure your issue but will hold up the best for you.

    Now this is independent of you getting a cooler as the CPU running those high temps will boil out any other TIM. ICD is different as it is not a thin flowing TIM nor will thin out and boil as it actually gets drier and harder.....................
     
  23. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    im sory
    i have no ida wath are you talking :O
    wath is the icd?tim? :spinny:
     
  24. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    ICD: IC Diamond - a particular thermal paste used by many gaming laptop manufacturers.
    TIM: Thermal Interface Material - A material that transfers heat between the CPU/GPU and heatsink, such as thermal paste and thermal pads.

    Between the 580m and 640m I would suggest the 580m, simply because it's clocked lower. Lower clocks should mean cooler temperatures. Is the 430m really not enough power for you? These alternatives aren't going to provide a huge power boost, you know. They're faster than the 430m, but that doesn't mean they're fast by today's standards.
     
  25. TANWare

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    Right, IC Diamond;
    Amazon.com : IC Diamond 24 Carat Thermal Compound - 4.8 gram : Computers & Accessories : Computers & Accessories

    The other thing that might have been helpful is there is a heat spring pad. The problem with it is the contact pressure needs to be so high most portable systems will not support it, even most towers will not. The other issue is that the pressure needed is so high to be effective it could damage the silicon chips. You would be carrying around chips clamped so tightly a good jarring could damage the silicon..................
     
  26. elmyo

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    You are aware the jump in power required/cooling is massive from a lower end dual core 1st gen to a refreshed quad core i7 740m right? Have you updated the BIOS> By the looks of it, the model of your msi gx740 which has the radeon 5870m as well only has one fan. I dont know if the i7 720m versions had a single fan or dual fan, but the i7 740qm was an upgrade to the existing 720qm. I think your paste job is fine, its just that the cooling is inadequate for both a 5870m and a 740qm. If the temps go down after a BIOS update thats great, but if they don't, that extra power requried for the 740qm,which results in extra heat means your laptop probably won't be able to handle a 740qm.
     
  27. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    ooo....ok ..so how i can get an bios for i7 740qm ?
    how its going to make a diffirent?
    maby i do this :D y9nevvy6v35lk1ww.jpg
     
  28. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    ok i have idia....how abut put my fan on 100prm and can i cheng the cpu power 45wat to 35w
    how i can put my fan on 100prm?
    speed fan its not working
    and can i cheng the cpu power 45wat to 35w?is thad okey?
     
  29. sangemaru

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    His problem isn't that he only has one fan, it's that he only has one heatpipe for CPU and one for GPU, so yes, it will get very very hot.
    What he CAN do is use throttlestop to lower the TDP limit and try to keep the CPU somewhere around 90-92C, although that will lower his turbo speeds, it's still better than thermal throttling at 100C.
    I can't think of any other ways to improve the situation with only one heatpipe for each component other than blowing cold air straight into the cooling system.
     
  30. linekhat

    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    i have to make my colling system by my self
    i wanto make a super cooling pad with most powerfull fan
    it shuld work but is hard
     
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    I'm quite surprised no one has suggested cleaning the radiator of dust. I have little choice but to clean both of them in my ASUS every three months or so.

    That should not be considered a good solution though. Judging from the picture you posted, you simply don't have enough heat pipe. Cleaning the radiator, using some IceDiamond, a high speed cooling pad, and running it only in a heavily air conditioned room, upgrading the BIOS are all good ideas. However, doing all of that together is really nothing more than a stop gap measure. Likely sooner than later, you'll end up cooking your hardware. My advice is to do the safest and simplest thing you can. Put the old CPU back in.

    There are better ways of getting more performance out of a laptop. Installing an SSD comes to mind and you'll likely see more real world improvement than you would with a faster CPU.

    If you insist on continuing with this, I recommend a high cfm fan. Look for something that's 8,000 rpm preferably higher and that will move well over 100 cfm (cubic feet per minute). I'm not certain what the rules are on posting links to products so I won't. Be forewarned, a fan like that will will make A LOT of noise but it will move an absolutely stunning amount of air. You'll also have to figure out how to power the thing.

    I still don't think any of this is a good idea, though.
     
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    I believe the dust was cleared. no matter what the air flow the single heat pipe will not allow enough heat transfer from the block to the heat dissipation radiator...............
     
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    linekhat Notebook Guru

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    That is for a desktop with a spare slot on the back.......................
     
  35. linekhat

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    i know that
    but ican use them on my laptop
     
  36. warfacegod

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    You won't be able to power something like that with a laptop. Aside from that, those won't move enough air to do any cooling.

    Get a legitimate laptop cooler stand and put some heavy duty fans (ones like I mentioned previously) on it in place of the ones it comes with. Once you've done that, only turn your laptop on for 5 or 10 minutes at a time and you should be fine.
     
  37. linekhat

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    tell me more abut this stuff....................how i can do this thing

    :D
     
  38. warfacegod

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    You can do this thing by putting a cpu in that your laptop can handle. Such as the old one.