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    laptop doesn't boot after cpu upgrade

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by shot00, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. shot00

    shot00 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hi guys i have a problem

    I have just replaced my old pentium T2390 with a c2d T5800.
    for some reason i cant boot to windows(it stop after it says:'windows starting' and shuts down) but i can boot normally from linux. i think my problem may be the video driver cuse its a modded driver without digital signature. i dont know maybe because the new cpu has 800MHz fsb and i have intel x3100 which from what i know this x3100 is ram and fsb dependant...is there a way to change the video driver via safe mode?

    if anyone knows what is going on i'd really appreciate it.

    sorry for my english mistakes.
     
  2. GalaxySII

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    boot windows installation disc or usb normally then select repair and pray ..
     
  3. shot00

    shot00 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alright. i've noticed something strange,
    after using linux for about half an hour i decited to boot again from windows.
    this time windows boot was succesful!
    but then i switched of my latop for an hour and as before didnt boot to windows. maybe its the temperature of some hardware because i am back to windows right now. it need 1-2 failure boot then restart and windows boot succesful...

    thats all i have right now
     
  4. NoMa

    NoMa Notebook Consultant

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    Now you should make a "repair start-up" by pressing f8 on key when booting from Windows. Better run it three times (each time restart computer) to rewrite the boot sector properly.
     
  5. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    I recommend you check if the heat-sink is seated properly and pressing down on all components as it should with test the temperatures under load.

    Aside from that, I agree with NoMa on trying to repair the start-up (though 3 times seems like an overkill, because if it doesn't work the first time around, there's a reasonable possibility that it won't work after the third time), and if that doesn't work, attempt the video driver fix you mentioned - though I doubt that's the issue.
    You can uninstal the gpu drivers from Safe Mode, but you cannot install them anew from there (at least, not to my knowledge).
    :)

    I take it that Linux works as it should though?
    No hangups, freezing or unexpected shutdowns?
    If so, it's possible that upon changing the CPU, something might have affected Windows.
    When I changed the P7350 for X9100, my Win 7 did some driver hunting and installed new cpu drivers so it can properly recognize and use the hardware in question.

    Anyway, something similar might have happened to you in a sense that Windows became corrupted for some reason because the OS couldn't install the CPU properly which might have affected OS stability.

    And if push comes to shove, you can always reinstall Windows.
     
  6. shot00

    shot00 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alright here's the thing.The laptop freezes after logo on, after 1 minute a bsod comes out saying about igdkm32.sys error then reboots itself and after this boots succesful. And then again if i switch off my laptop i have to wait for the bsod reboots itself and then boots succesful.
    Well it's not bothering me a lot but the problem is why on the t5800 and not in my previous t2390
    I'm sure it's the video driver tried to reinstall everything that has to do with it but no luck.
     
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    I have a question.
    Did you by any chance update your BIOS before installing the new cpu?
    I'm asking because if you didn't, then it's possible this might be causing an issue.

    Aside from that, the igdkm32.sys is indeed part of Intel Graphics.

    Here's my advice:
    Download the latest Intel drivers for your integrated GPU.
    Next... if you can get Windows to boot up properly, then once you are at the desktop, go into device manager and uninstall the gpu completely (do not agree to a system restart if it prompts you), followed by cleaning the driver remains through Ccleaner (run the registry cleaner3 or 4 times to make sure you find all of the entries).
    Once you have done that, you should restart the computer and let it boot on it's own.
    If it works, then Windows should boot and use Generic Windows drivers, or merely install Intel drivers it has (if it has them).
    Once that is done, you can install your downloaded Intel drivers.

    If you can't get Windows to boot, then try removing the gpu via device manager in Safe Mode (followed by cCleaner registry cleaning) and then booting into regular mode and installing the gpu as usual.

    If none of that works, go into Safe Mode, back up your files and do a fresh install.

    It's possible the new cpu is causing issues with the gpu because of the FSB or something else - or Windows messed something up during detection time which causes the freezing and everything else.
     
  9. naton

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    Windows is not loading the drivers for the T5800. It is loading the drivers for the T2390 instead. Boot in safe mode and then go the 'Device Manager'. It is likely that you'll see the T2390 appearing twice under 'Processors'. Select both of them (one at the time) and press delete in the keyboard. Then restart you're laptop. This will force Windows to identify your T5800 properly.

    You might have to go this process a couple of time.
     
  10. shot00

    shot00 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, thanks guys but none of these worked.
    Here is a guy that had the same problem and solved it by downgrade his ram.He moved from a pc2-5300 to pc2-4200.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardware-components-aftermarket-upgrades/212097-gl960-chipset-processor-upgradability-6.html

    I have one module of pc2-6400 and if i remember correct with the t2390 my timings were 4-4-4-12(266mhz) and now with t5800 are 5-5-5-15(333mhz).
    How will effect my system if i'll put an onother module but with lower bandwidth?
     
  11. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The Ram Speed can be an issue. You can try setting everything to the lowest speeds in the Bios to test it out.

    I would do a fresh install of Windows though, and see how it goes.
     
  12. naton

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    I'm one of the guy who had and still have a problem after upgrade. It happened to in the past when trying to help a friend upgrade his HP 6720 laptop and it is happening to me now with a Compaq 610 laptop. Both were upgraded from a stock celeron with an FSB of 133 to a dual core CPUs with FSB of 166 and 200.

    You've not been clear about the symptoms you're having after the upgrade. In my case, the laptop starts fine. I could see the graphics showing that Windows is loading up but as soon as the drivers for the X3100 are loaded the screen goes black. I can still hear Windows loading though.

    If you're experiencing the above than the GL960 in your laptop is not a good one. It is the same as the one in my Compaq laptop. You have 2 solutions. The first one is to use Windows XP. Windows XP will identify you're screen resolution even without installing the drivers for the Intel X3100. The problem with Win Vista and 7 is that they have the Intel X3100 drivers built in them. The second solution is to use a PC4200 RAM. In my case I'm temporally using a 512MB PC4200 module of RAM with the 2GB PC6400 module of RAM that came with the laptop. I used a T5550 for the upgrade. I'm going to downgrade the laptop to a T2370 soon though as using a PC4200 RAM is only a quick fix. It is clear that HP did not design this laptop to be upgrade to a Core 2 Duo CPU. The Compaq I have was sold with 2 motherboards; one for fsb 133 and the other one for fsb 133 to 200. The one with fsb 133 was equipped with Celeron and Celerons dual cores. The other one was equipped with a Core 2 Duo CPU.
     
  13. shot00

    shot00 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for clearing that up naton. Btw it seems that we have the same laptop-compaq 610.
    Mine too was equipped with a cmeleron 570 and a micron pc2-6400. after that i upgrade to a t2390 dual core. So i'm going to use your sayings and put a pc2-4200. I have tried pc2-5300 but no luck.
    Did the pc4200 slowed you down?
     
  14. naton

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    I can't check now. The screen on my Compaq was damaged and the replacement screen I got for it has the connection in the wrong side.

    I believe that the PC4200 is running at its native speed of 533, while the PC6400 has slowed down to 533 to match the speed of the PC4200. I think for some reason the X3100 in the Compaq doesn't like running at 667MHz. This is weird as I have upgraded a Toshiba and a couple of Acer with the GL960 and didn't run in this problem.
     
  15. shot00

    shot00 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I thought X3100 was running at max 500MHz range. Anyway i have just ordered a pc4200 for about 3$ :eek: So if this is going to work with my problem i'll tell you.
     
  16. naton

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    On the GL960 with a Celeron or a T23x0 CPU it runs at 500MHz but on the GM965 it runs higher since the GM965 are sold with laptop equipped with Core 2 Duo CPUs. I don't remember the exact frequency but I think it's about 600 or 650MHz. Using faster RAM improves the performance of the X3100 on the GL960.

    Because of the bad GL960 on HP laptops, using CPUs with an FSB of 667 or 200 increases the frequency of RAM used by X3100, and the X3100 doesn't like it, and hence the black screen when we boot into Windows.

    I've downgraded my T5550 to a T2370 and now I can boot all the way to the desktop without having to use the PC4200 RAM :D

    By the way what type of screen do you have in your laptop CCFL or LED?
     
  17. shot00

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    I think all compaq's 610 were equipped with LED screens. At least mine is LED.
    Did the pc2-4200 slowed you down when you were using it?
     
  18. naton

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    As I said before I didn't had chance to test because my new LED screen is not 100% compatible with my laptop. The old screen had the connector on the Right side and the new one has the connector on the left side. The display cable on the laptop is too short :(.

    The general rule is if a computer has several RAM modules with different speeds, they will all align to the speed of the slowest RAM. So for instance, a computer has a three RAM modules; one is PC4200, one is PC5300, and one is PC6400. All three of them will align to the speed of the PC4200 and thus run at 533MHz.

    If you think about it you will not notice any slow down since the PC6400 installed on the laptop was always running at the speed of a PC4200. The Celeron that was originally in the laptop and the T2390 you used for the initial upgrade have an FSB of 533 and thus the PC6400 was running at 533 too.
     
  19. shot00

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    Copy that.
    Thanks for all your help so far naton. You did help me a lot.
     
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    Well, yeah that was my problem. Today the pc2-4200 arrived, put it in and no more boot problems. Thanks again naton! Solved
     
  21. naton

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    That good.

    By the way I did some more digging around, and found a PDF in HP's website. There is a variant of the Compaq 610 which was sold with a CCFL screen.