im confused on processors

Why when i look for the Intel Core 2 Extreme X9000 processor its like $1200, or around there but when i look at like the HP Special Edition notebook its processor seems way better and you can get the whole notebook for $900?
Help me understand lol. I look at the specs for each and the notebooks processor seems better in every aspect.

 

Look for OEMs....and go for Non-ESs..!!

 

man i know nothing about computers lol. im wanting to learn so could you make that easier for me? whats an OEM and whats an ES and whats bad about it?

 

The Core 2 Extreme processor is...well...extreme. If you do gaming/video editing/other hardcore stuff, you'll benefit from it. The HP special edition you were looking at was a lower end processor, just a core 2 duo or a pentium dual core. The price is lower because the processor itself cannot perform as well as the core 2 extreme.

OEM is the company that designs the laptop and chooses what parts to put into them. Conversely, an ODM is the company that is GIVEN these designs BY the OEM and is the company that actually makes them.

 

OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer, meaning they are stripped out of new or used computers....and mostly carry with them a warranty of 90 days..!! And are considerably cheaper than the Retail Boxed CPUs....!!

ES - Engineering Sample - These are kinda intel confidential CPUs given out to various developers and reviewers before their actual release for testing and stuff..!! Always clarify before buying if the CPU is an ES or not....and stay away from them, since they normally dont have a good history..!!

 

I fail to see how you can say whatever HP has in their notebook is better than the $1200 CPU (QX9750? QX9770?)

How did you ever come to that conclusion?

 

o ok so i understand what those are now. but it says the special edition only has .7 less GHz is that a lot? and it says that its system bus has 1600 MHz and the extreme only has 800 MHz. is there something else that adds to the system bus and thats why the laptop has so much more?

ONE MORE QUESTION
1. If Your computer has a GPU does it still need a CPU or is the GPU a processor too just with helps with graphics a lot more?

 

I think it best you stay away from the x9000, as it seems you will have no need for one.

 

GPU - is the graphics processing unit..!!

Some laptops have integrated graphics (GMA 950, X3100, etc) and are not made for the purpose of gaming..!!
Others have dedicated graphics cards in them (Nvidia 8600M GT, etc), these are way better than the integrated cards in terms of graphics performance and gaming....!!
Each laptop needs a CPU to work....it is the heart of the machine (central processing unit)....GPUs are like secondary stuff..!!

But I don't understand the system bus thing you are talking about..?!

 

nevermind about the comparing the two. but why wouldnt i need it? the only reason im buying a laptop is to play games. so how can you tell what computers are compatible with certain processors or graphic cards?

 

As said, you wouldn’t need an x9000 CPU. Depending on what games you’re planning on playing, will also determine which GPU you would want. Let’s say you’re a gamer, but don’t want to spend too much. A laptop with an 8600GT would suit your needs just fine, as it should run any game out there fairly well. If you have more money to spend, you can opt for the cheaper solution “High-end” level notebooks and get something with an 8800GTS (best bang for the buck GPU). If there is no cap on your spending needs, then by all means get a notebook with an 8800GTS and a T9000 series CPU. Any of those notebooks should have at least a core2duo processor, and can be upgraded if you need something more out of the CPU. The best bang for the buck CPU right now is the T8 series, with the T9 series following close behind.

Everything I just said is subjective, and its not a fact.

 

Check out Xotic PCs for custom gaming laptops or the websites of Dell, HP, Acer, etc to see if you can get what you need..!!
As kobe commented....I think a laptop with a T9300 and a 8600M GT(DDR3) would suit your needs fine..!! HDD and Ram can be upgraded later so you could go for the minimal config in respect to HDD and RAM..to save some money..!!

 

ah ok thanks guys. appreciate the help. but i dont get it. if i wouldnt need the x9000 who would need it?

 

i think what everyone is saying is.....

most games are more GPU intesnive than CPU intensive... so you would be wasting money on a CPU that won't give you much (if any) noticable improvments...

they are telling you that for gaming focus on the GPU not the CPU
your money for GAMING puropses would be better spent on the BEST GPU
since that is what will be holding back your gaming experience

the X9000 would benifit someone doing a lot of 3-D modeling or other CPU intensive tasks....

 

X9000 is an extreme cpu....EXTREME..!!(more for overclockers, since you can get almost the same performance from the T9500/T9300)..!! Go for the T9500 or the T9300....(which has a good price to performance ratio)..

Have a look at all the major intel mobile CPUs in this guide....

 

Intel brands their processors as extreme, cause it is all a marketing scam. Intel knows how many stupid people their are out their, who think extreme means better. Yeah so it is 200Mhz faster than the second faster processor, but is the next best one not extreme?
Paying the premium for the x9000 is completely ridiculous. The processor costs over $1000, and it is only marginally faster than the T9500 which you can get for $350. SO basically you are paying 3x the price for a 5-8% speed increase and a processor labeled extreme. It doesnt make much sense to me, why people would pay so much more for not much more performance.

I dont intend to be portraying that you are stupid in any way, it is just that you should get a processor which has more bang for the buck.
For what you are using the computer for, you will not need more than a T7500 cpu. You must realize that their is no difference between a X9000 and a Pentium 3 processor when running word and such. In games, you will not notice any kind of difference between a T8300 and a X9000, because you are not using 100% cpu power.

Just trying to save you some money

K-TRON

 

ah ok now i get it, i was just confused why. thanks for the help everyone i now know more about what im looking for