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    Would a C2Q 2 Ghz be enough

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by frank633, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello everyone, I've read on a lot of threads that for games that don't support multi-core, a quad core processor isn't really recommended, that a C2D is better. But, in the future, most games will certainly(I guess) support multi-core, so i was wondering if a C2Q 2.0 ghz (q9000) would be anough to handle games well... cause I might get the new msi gt729 that will soon(we all hope) be out. Otherwise, i'd have no choice than having a P8600 2.4 overclockable via the turbo button.

    Thank you
    frank633
     
  2. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    A quad core will be more than sufficient for games in years to come. I'll save money for a better GPU, that's what you should look into.
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you are purchasing a new notebook and if the CPUs are the same price or if the quad isn't much more expensive, I would opt for the quad core.
     
  4. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    ok well dont worry for the gpu^^ its the gt725 or the gt729 ill get :p The only thing is that a quad core isn't available on newegg canada... so i might just get a C2D... or i would have to order my laptop from frostycomputers, even if i'm in canada. I just hope a C2D could make it long enough too though...
     
  5. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Better GPU, your joking i hope :p, 4850 is some of ATI's best in laptops, and it supports some pretty powerful overclocking, id say get the gt725 or 729 because you wont regret it.
     
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    bense Notebook Geek

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    At this point, I would focus more on making sure that you have a cpu socket that is upgradable in the future. If you don't need the chip now, at least have a motherboard that supports it.

    Because I bet you anything that the processor that you want now, will be less than half the cost when you do need it.
     
  7. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Upgradeability is very limited in the next few months since we're at the end of the Intel cycle...
     
  8. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    What do you mean...? Cause i would like to have the quad processor BUT it's not available in newegg.ca only on frostycomputers... but as I said... since I'm in canada, i'd rather order from newegg... would be safer for the warranty.
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'm sure the quad will be an option shortly. I don't think it's worth it to buy it with a dual then upgrade to a quad because the Core 2 line is essentially over with the introduction of the i7 line in Q4.
     
  10. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    aa i see... well... i wrote to newegg to ask them when they plan to have the new gt729... cause as you said... a c2d wont be good anymore in a short while i guess...


    frank633
     
  11. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    I just wrote to frostycomputer, i the guy answered all my question within the same day. It'd be a better choice to take it there, cause i'd have a 2 year of global warranty(which can be redeemed in canada) plus 3 years of msi usa warranty which means that after my 2 year of global warranty, i have an extra year of waranty(but i'd have to pay for shipping though) Still, on the lower model, the one i'd have for 1499$ US I'd have the same spec than on newegg(which means no quad core...), but with more warranty time, and windows vista 64 bits plus free upgrade to win 7 64 bits :D

    I don't know what you think, but in my opinion, even though core2duo is coming to its end, it should still be able to run games in the future... maybe not to their full potential... but I think it would make it...

    Just an interesting fact, frostycomputer could sell me the computer for cheaper(after conversion to canadian dollars) than newegg.ca ... weird...

    frank633
     
  12. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you have a good deal, even if it has dual core, go for it. I think you will still be fine for the next 3 years.
     
  13. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    ooo then I'll be more than satisfied if i still can game in 2 years with that laptop XD (not at best graphics though cause graphics will always be more demanding) but still, it's true that with this machine... since it's a BEASTR now it should still be quite fine in 2-3 years.

    I was wondering, is it normal that under the shipping costs line on frostycomputers the tax is set to 0$ cause, it's gonna be shipped to canada... i guess there are taxes... cause if there are... the price will raise... but if there are not, I'd pay 150$ less with frostycomputers than with newegg... with bnetter warranty and better OS(64 bits vs 32 bits with newegg)
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think tax is added when the product crosses the border...
     
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    bense Notebook Geek

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    But be honest, can you tell the difference between a used CPU and a new CPU?

    I'll bet you can't. There's no moving parts. If you have a lower end socket P cpu, and if you have a more powerful chipset, then you have a lot of room to grow. Socket P ranges from pentiums to quad core extremes with 12MB of L2 cache.

    Don't get trapped in the "hurry up and before I can no longer find it" mindset. Because it will always be available on ebay.

    Here's my first CPU that I had nearly 10 years ago. Pentium III 667 MHz coppermine. It's $4 on ebay.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pentium-III-667-256-133-1-65-Socket-370-CPU-SL3XW_W0QQitemZ260450398031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca40daf4f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50
     
  16. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    oh... but i'vre read(don't remember where though) that on computers there is no border tax(if it's the way it's called...)

    EDIT: @bense :I'm not sure i get the purpose of you post... ? (no offense^^)
     
  17. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    But CPU upgrades void the warranty. If there is no tax at the border, then there is no tax :)
     
  18. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    well... once the warranty is over.. i could still try upgrading the cpu its true... and I'll check about the tax at the border...

    EDIT: I did a quick research without result... but I hope it's not 150$ or more... anyway... have no time right now to continue on that, i gotta go to work...
     
  19. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    GT725 suports qx9300

    And doesnt void warrenty.

    BEEEEEE HAPPY :)
     
  20. spradhan01

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    It will depend according to the demands of game. But it will be enough for now if you have a decent GPU.
     
  21. frank633

    frank633 Notebook Consultant

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    well i think the gpu will be enough for the next year(1-2) since its the hd4850 from ati. and i'll eventually upgrade the cpu when it wont be enough... as for the cross-border tax... i'll ask frostycomputers.... i'm probably not their first canadian customer, so the question must have been asked before. Although i'm not on the right forum fior this question, I think it's better here than creating another thread for this since we're already talking about the gt725. Would the new gpu with 1 Go of ram be really a good reason to wait until the gt729 is out, or it'S not gonna make much different at this resolution(1680X1050). Cause i thought that in the futur years 512 Mo could be short... even though it'S a really good card...