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    Will HD or Blu Ray dominate?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by BlackHawk7, Jun 30, 2007.

  1. BlackHawk7

    BlackHawk7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Okay- here's 2 questions in mind that might fit here...

    Which will dominate in computers (specifically laptops- HD or Blu Ray?

    And, how much of a price difference is either HD or Blu Ray have on a laptop? When is the best time to get HD or Blu Ray in one after the highest DX10 graphics release? Thanks.
     
  2. taelrak

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    No one knows yet. Blu-Ray's better, HD DVD's cheaper.

    It looks like Blu-Ray is winning though in terms of corporate support.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_corporations_supporting_Blu-ray

    Adding HD DVD or Blu-Ray to a current system (such as Sony) costs roughly up to $500. Yep - that's anywhere from 1/2 to 1/5 of the entire laptop's cost.

    The *best* time to buy one would be after this war's been decided - either with a clear victor or with some sort of drive that can read and write to both. That may be quite a while though.
     
  3. Wiz33

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    Blu-ray have the advantage now. What with Blockbuster deciding to only offer blu-ray for rental and reduce HD-DVD sale to only 250 of their stores. On top of that, the installed base of Blu-ray player have gone over 5 millions (including PS3) while the installed base for HD-DVD (including XBox 360) is still under 2 millions. Also, a lot of the latest hit movies like Casion Royale and Spiderman belong to Sony/MGM pictures and is only available in Blu-ray.
     
  4. ViciousXUSMC

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    all things considered, I think they are equal.

    As per wich one will dominate. I belive they will both co-exsist.
     
  5. Skibums

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    We might be seeing the beginning of blu-ray domination in this format war. All that needs to happen, is to have a couple other companies follow Blockbuster's lead and you could see HD-DVD just slowly fade away.
     
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    Thats just it hddvd > blu-ray when it comes to pc's and thus why it will stick around (besides microsoft is behind it)

    It holds less data, but is cheaper to buy and is more durable. Thats exactly what you need for a storage medium. When it comes to movies blu-ray may win out.

    But when it comes to the next "dvd" to burn your computer data on, HDDVD is the logical choice.

    I really hate to make all the same points I have already made in 2 or 3 other threads based on the same topic so this is only a brief outlook rather than a description.

    HDDVD

    >cheaper per gig of storage
    >much more durable and longer lasting
    >should have a lower failure rate when burning. who wants to burn a 50$ bluray coaster?

    Bluray
    >more storage

    thats it blurays only advantage is its higher storage capacity, but hddvd has plenty and since its cheaper thats all that matters.
     
  7. BlackHawk7

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    But with so many more advantages over HD, why is Blu Ray dominating the war so far? I don't get it.
     
  8. ViciousXUSMC

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    Unfortuantly americans tend to let the media and public opinion guide them into what they think is best and there purcahses. They let the coroporations decide what they want/buy.

    In this case most people say bluray not because its honestly a better format but because more movies are on that format. Well if people took a stand you would see an equal amount of movies on hd-dvd.

    I can care less tho, I just want hddvd to stick around for pc use.

    1 decent scratch on a blueray disk can render it un-usable, and thats 50gigs worth of possibly important data you just lost.

    A HDDVD in the same situation could just have the scratch buffed out. Plus when your backing up possibly several tetabytes of data (downloaded movies ad up fast) the cost of bluray starts to hurt vs hddvd, and thats only if you dont fail burning.

    You do realize HDDVD and BLURAY are the exact same thing, they use the same laser, the same tech. The only difference is that bluray has the data stored much more compact, its very data dense. As a result they had to make the plastic layer that covers the data area much thinner so that it could read properly.

    If they had to phisically change how the disk was made just so the laser can read the disk, if its that sensitive... imagine what that translates too when it comes to burning a disk??? just one piece of dust in your burner and you may have a 50$ drink coaster.

    The idea that they use the same tech, means that its very easy to make a player/burner that works for both formats, so thats just another big reason why they will both co-exsist.

    Im fairly confident on this, MS behind HDDVD, Sony behind Bluray.

    You may see one part of the market dominated by one or the other, but both formats will be avalible. Thats my take on it.
     
  9. BlackHawk7

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    It looks like HD is great, Blu Ray seems too hyped. I don't know if I should go for HD or Blu Ray if one falls. Especially HD. When might HD possibly fade away?
     
  10. ViciousXUSMC

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    I think eather is too expensive to really get into right now.

    Wait untill good dual players are at or under 200$ and get a dual player.
     
  11. Wiz33

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    Here we go again (seems we always have different opinion on the subject) :). media pricing means almost nothing as it will eventually go down to the point where the difference won't be noticeable. remember when DVD-R DL was $17 a pop and now they are $.50. Once there are enough installed base and the Chinese media manufacturer gets tooled up, the price will drop fast.
     
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    Don't do either. I like blu-ray but I will not pick up a player or burner until I have an absolute need for it. Right now there are not enough movies out for me to buy a player and the burner and media cost way too much vs just getting another few TB of HD storage (you can easily get 2.5TB of HD storage for the price even if the burner drop to $500 and that's not including media cost).
     
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    Perhaps true but no point in worrying about the future, you have to worry about now.

    You never know what will happen tho, so even if it seems like common sense its only speculation.

    Im not going to buy a SUV and pay more for gas every single day of my life instead of a car because 5 years from now a hurricane will hit florida and I may need 4 wheel drive and bigger tires to run over fallen trees :p