Where does the Santa Rosa line end?

I have a T7x00 in my 8510w. Bought it w/ a slow proc because I knew the 45nm stuff was coming and I'd upgrade later.

Wondering if anyone knows where the Santa Rosa chipset compatible CPUs will end.
I've never had a lot of luck digging this kind of info out of Intel's site and searching the 'net' didn't get the answer either.


Anyone know? Is this information known yet or is it still behind closed doors?

 

Santa Rosa supports Merom 2nd Gen, and Penryn 1st Gen. It cannot use Penryn 2nd Gen that's coming out with Montevina (>800 FSB or Socket B).

 

The current Penryns will be the last cpus that will drop into a SR chipest. After them (juneish) Montevina will come out and that will be a whole new thing that will not be compatible with current computers.

 

Has the spec been published for the top speed/model# where the Penryn 1st Gens will cap out?

Obviously I want to wait until the top of the SR chips is actually avail and begin watching prices.

 

So any Penryn that starts with a T, i.e. T8100, T8300, T9300, T9400, T9500, T9600. X9000 might work, if it's offered by HP in some form, due to a higher TDP.

 

Prices for processors stay relatively consistent. Instead of dropping prices, Intel just replaces them with a new lineup and phases out the old one.

 

Has Intel published where the 'T' series will end?
I have my doubts on the 'X' series, HP's not showing them as avail in this machine and that likely means Bios issues.

You are kidding right? Processor prices drop like flies every time a new proc comes out. Intel routinely drops prices. Up to a point, then if you let it go too far the prices go back up again as 'old' chips become harder to find.

I don't 'need' a new proc now, but when the time's right I'd like to get
better battery life
less heat
and of course, better performance

 

Yeah, that's most like a TDP issue. The Laptop can't cope with the extra power draw and heat dissipation that comes with the 44w TDP of the Core 2 Extremes.

That's not necesseraly true. the First generation merom CPU's were still expensive, while the santa rosa meroms debuted at a lower price. The Santa Rosa Penryns debuted at a lower price still. The meroms haven't fluctuated much in price

 

The thing already runs the fans too much, last thing it needs is a bigger heat source.

Then again, I've yet to see a mfgr make a laptop that can actually be used on your lap w/o blocking the air inlets.
Seems kind of silly to make a laptop that overheats when you set it on your lap...but it seems that all the mfgrs do.

One reason I want the 45nm stuff is to slow the fans, another is to get better battery life. I think both of these would be backwards if I chose an 'X' cpu.


Interesting on the prices, certainly runs contrary to the last 20 years of my computer experience, but I can't argue with you since I haven't researched it on these chips.

 

That's what the prices are like in sweden at least. Might be different elsewhere.

And yeah, the C2X series are not really worth it. You can get roughly the same performance for less, and more than adequete for a lot less.

The coolest of the penryns should be T8100. Best bang for the buck is either T8300 or T9300. What do you do on your laptop? Either of these should be more than enough for nearly all tasks.

Also, have you updated your bios? I think one of the updates fixed som fan issue, at least on the 8510p.

 

Yes, bios is up to date (or at least was updated less than a month ago when I had to rebuild after that POS Hitachi drive STB.)
It's not really an 'issue' unless I'm in a very quiet room or the silly thing is on my lap.

I can work a machine like this very hard doing CAD. I bought it last fall and when I bench'd it against my 3yr old CAD station it beat it, so I converted the CAD station's hardware into a MythTV server and use the lappy for now as a CAD station. Maybe not ideal, but I'm not doing a lot of CAD right now so it's getting me by.

I'll probably wait until the T9x00s max out. I'm trying to figure out where that point will be. Perhaps no one knows (other than those at Intel and they aren't telling.)

 

Will be in may or so. After that, when montevina launches, the new CPU's will use socket B. So T9600 is what you want.

 

So you know for sure there won't be a T9700/9800/9900?

Have you got a link to a source on this?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...#.22Penryn.22_.28standard-voltage.2C_45_nm.29

 

Hmm, reading that it doesn't seem to answer the question either. The ones on your link seem to be talking about the new 1066fsb. Although it does say:
"Socket P processors are capable of throttling the FSB anywhere between 533-1066 MHz as necessary."

Looking at the configurable 8510w on HP's site they are all odd numbered processors, T7700, T8100, T8300, T9300, T9500 w/ 800mhz FSB.

Short of putting one in to see I doubt HP'll tell anyone if the even numbered ones will work.

I'm wondering if we'll see a T9700 and T9900...I guess only time will tell.

I'm in no hurry.


on another note...they sure didn't hang onto the 800mhz fsb very long didn't we just get them last spring?

**edit More info on them here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2#Merom

 

I dont think Intel would release any more cpus for SR platform. T9600 would be for Montevina.

From SR perspective T9300 is just awesome. I dont think T9600 would be > 10% faster than T9300.

 

Actually a T9600 itself might not be much more than a 10% performance increase from a T9300, but on the new platform as a whole it definitely will be at least 10% faster, due to the new memory controller, faster FSB and DDR3 memory.

 

too bad it won't fit montevina... It has the wrong type of socket.