Whats more powerful: 3610qm or q6600

Im just curious.

 

Mobile Processors - Benchmarklist - Notebookcheck.net Tech

3610: place 19.
q6600: place 94

 

Uhm... that doesn't say too much actually because Notebookcheck's benches should be taken with a pinch of salt and are not exactly 100% reliable.

Latest mobile cpu's from the i series are basically the same as their desktop counterparts except with lower speeds (which more or less puts them within 25% to 50% of each other in performance on stock speeds - overclocking not withstanding).

 

The two are several generations apart. The Q6600 runs at 2.4GHz and has a 105W TDP. The 3610QM is significantly faster clock-for-clock to begin with, runs at 3.1GHz with turbo boost (on 4 cores), and uses 45W. You tell me

I can't find any benchmarks covering both chips other than Passmark (take it with however big a grain of salt you'd like): 3610QM gets 8,380 points, while Q6600 gets 2,972 points.

 

LOL, are you serious AnimalMother?

 

Huge difference. 3610QM is a lot more powerful. Wish I could quantify it, but I'm not spending time quantifying the difference when I know the 3610qm is likely at least 3x the performance of the Q6600.

 

As HTWingNut said, the 3610qm eats q6600s for breakfast. It's not even a fair fight.

 

Should be somewhere in the neighborhood of twice as fast, according to Anandtech. Note the comparison was done with a desktop i5-2400, but the i7-3610qm should perform similarly to that. Though the i7 includes some extra instruction sets that the q6600 lacks such as AVX that will greatly speed up some programs vs running without the extra instructions.

 

Q6600 is getting crushed

 

Where did you get that comparison from?

 

It looks like it's from notebookcheck.

 

Yeah, it sure does.

 

You'd need to take that comparison with several hundred pounds of salt to say that NBC made that big of a mistake.

This is not entirely true. There is no desktop IVB i7 that has 6MB of L3 AND handles 8 threads. AFAIK, you would need entirely different hardware to reduce L3 or add thread count. You cannot take a 8MB L3 processor and disable a part of it. Also, you cannot take a 4 thread processor and give it HT support.

Also, all the desktop processors are LGA1155. None of the laptop processors use that socket. Another tech spec that would require entirely new hardware.

 

Minor differences.
I was mainly talking about performance.
Other than that... the only reason desktop and laptop cpu's use different sockets is because they don't want these parts to be interchangeable (and obviously to charge 'mobile' ones with higher prices simply because they are 'mobile').
Gpu's are very similar - desktop and laptop chip cores are identical... except laptop ones have disabled functions/capabilities because they have stricter thermal requirements (a notion that is a byproduct of manufacturers using cheap materials and means of production) - so obviously, taking a page from the gpu book alone, it IS possible to disable functions on the same chip/hardware - Nvidia and AMD were doing this for years when it comes to 'professional' gpu's.

 

No these are actually pretty major differences. If you call all these minor, I am not sure what you think is a big difference.

There would be a lot more than socket differences that would be required for the two to be interchangeable. Right from the BIOS to the mobo, eveyrthing would need to be different. I don't think Intel adds random connections on their die just so the sockets can differ and keeps those connections floating/NC. They have 1155 pins because they need most of the 1155 pins. They have 998 pins on mobile because they woul otherwise have to leave a couple hundred not connected that would also interfere with the others that had to be routed to the outside.

GPUs are completely different. Laptop chips have a clear desktop counterpart. This is not the case for CPUs. The 7970m is a desktop 7870 with reduced clock speeds. The 680m is a GTX670. I can overclock my 7970m to get the EXACT same performance of a 7870. What desktop chip is a 3610qm derived from? The way you get a 670 is by disabling one smx from the 680. Not half. ONE. L3 slices are assigned to cores. You cannot keep the hardware the same, disable a cache slice yet keep its corresponding core active.

Anyways, I only chipped in because there was some incorrect stuff going on. Either ways, the Q6600 vs 3610QM debate is really not a debate.

 

Thanks guys! I want to build my own pc. I have the tower and a frys electronics nearby.
Ddr3 i7 and a good gpu to run bf3. I already have a tower. Not sure what motherboard. I have fans a power supply on my old tower. What do you guys think?

 

Uhm, 3610QM isn`t a desktop CPU. Its for notebooks. So if you are planning on building a new tower desktop, nevermind the comparison in this thread

 

And speaking of comparisons. Benchmarks will always tend to show a greater disparity than actual real world tests. I think that if you compared these two with actual daily uses. The difference would likely not even be noticeable.

In fact, I just got through watching a comparison between Firewire 800 and USB 3.0. Which do you think won?

On Benchmark the USB was the clear winner by a large margin. But when actual data transfer test were done (16GB file), the differences--though still pro 3.0--was negligible. Measuring only a few bytes/s ahead--3.33 vs 3.21.

Firewire: W77.2, R66.3*

USB 3.0: W108.1, R109.6



*speeds are no exact.

 

I wanted to compare to my desktop. It's got a gtx 285 4gb ddr2 and the q6600. My laptop feels way faster even more so with my intel ssd.

I want to see if i should upgrade(by judging how far behind it is) or just keep the tower and change internals. I thought it would be as easy as putting a i7 into it and using ddr3 but not sure if it will work its from 2009.

 

You will have to ask your desktop questions either at PC Forums - Desktop Computer Forums and Discussions or in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/off-topic/639238-desktop-computer-discussion-lounge.html.

 

Np, Thank you very much for all your help in all my threads.

 

You can't put an i7 in a Core 2 motherboard. You will need a new motherboard, new RAM (DDR3), new CPU, only thing common you can keep are your hard drives, GPU, and possibly CPU cooler.

 

Thank you wingnut!