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    Vertex 2 VS Vertex 3

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by kwantz, May 27, 2011.

  1. kwantz

    kwantz Notebook Evangelist

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    For a notebook is there that much of a difference in performance? Would it be noticeable?

    I am looking for a 120gb SSD.. the price differnce between these two, is $100.00

    Vertex 2 120gb- $190.00
    Vertex 3 120gb -$299.00

    Is the 100 dollar price difference worth it for a notebook? would I even see the difference in performance? since im sure most laptops are only sataII and not sata III to even take advantage of the extra performance?
     
  2. Honzik1

    Honzik1 Notebook Consultant

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    Buy newer generations of SSDs, they will have longer support
     
  3. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    You should pick the cheapest because they will both fail anyways :p
     
  4. KillerBunny

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    I wouldn't buy the vertex 2. It has a remarkable history of failure. The vertex 3 seems to have a better record. Also, take into account if your laptop is sata II or III. No point in getting a sata III ssd without a sata III compatible laptop. Only new sandy bridge laptops are sata III compatible.
     
  5. kwantz

    kwantz Notebook Evangelist

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    so are all sandy bridge lappys sata 3? or only some of them?
     
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    All of them are SATA 3 because they use Chipset 6 series, which all have 2 x SATA 3. :)
     
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    I have the Vertex 2 120gb version. I have had it for 4 months 4 days and 17 hours.

    You gotta love SSDlife, nice program (if it can be trusted?)

    No problems so far. No drop in performance and I have treated it with a distinct lack of respect. I was worried for a while when it was unsure who had the 32nm and who had the 25nm versions, but all was good for me anyway.

    Having read all the horror stories neither version is consistently good. With ocz I'm of the mind it's hit or miss.
     
  8. Peon

    Peon Notebook Virtuoso

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    The vast majority of people will never see their SSD fail. If the French hardware site (which I can never remember the link to) is correct, both average and max SSD failure rates are well below those of traditional HDDs, and people don't exactly have HDDs dying on them left and right.

    Remember, it's always the vocal minority who do experience an SSD failure that skew perceptions ;)
     
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    Hold off on the Vertex 3 drives now as there's a reported incompatibility between the drives and 6-series chipsets (Sandy Bridge processors). Until the problem is resolved, neither drive is a good choice if the aim is for reliable performance without severe system crashing.
     
  10. Phil

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    I haven't noticed anything of incompatibility. Running Vertex 3 with HM67 chipset.

    If people experience freezing it's probably because of LPM. This can easily be disabled.

    The differences between Vertex 3 and Vertex 3 are well shown in Hardwareheaven.com's review of the Vertex 3.
     
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    I did put up that external forum link documenting the Vertex 3 problems a few days ago, if your "disable LPM" solution works for OCZ they'll be the 1st to thank you.

    How does disabling LPM solve the problem? (What's LPM stand for by the way?)
     
  12. Phil

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    LPM stands for Link Power Management. What it exactly does I don't know. All I know is it can cause freezing with Crucial SATA III SSDs. When disables it doesn't.

    I don't see a link in your post. Where is it?
     
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    Apologies for the misunderstanding, the link isn't in my last post but rather another thread I made several days ago. See here, I notice you paid little heed to the thread since you did not contribute a reply.

    I remember the Crucial C300 problem and LPM now that you mention both together in one sentence, however I fail to see why it also affects Vertex 3 SSDs, is it a common controller problem they're experiencing?
     
  14. Phil

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    I don't think the information supplied by Kobalt is accurate. I do know that there is a problem with the latest firmware. Not sure though what they are experiencing.

    PS. I don't know if Vertex 3 have the same problem with LPM. But since I've seen some reports of V3 freezing problems, I guess it could be the same issue.
     
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    Going by the forum page, the latest firmware update did not solve their latest round of Vertex 3 related problems. At any rate they've played it safe and remove the Vertex 3 from their product lineup, precipitating my own order change from a Vertex 3 to the Intel 510.

    To date, the problem remains unresolved. They've been touting the Corsair Force and its blazing speeds on paper as a replacement for out-and-out performance. I'll have to sacrifice some 4k random read-write performance for (hopefully) better reliability from the Intel product.
     
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    No what I meant is that the latest firmware has problems for sure. So yes it won't solve anything.
     
  17. Generic User #2

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    based on googling, LPM is something like sleep mode for HDD. not quite sure how it actually affects SSDs.

    i'm actually not sure what the problem you guys are describing is...but i THINK disabling LPM should keep the power flow to the SSD at it maximum, ensuring that the controller can work at its architectural limits.
     
  18. Phil

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    I did some testing, disabling LPM doesn't seem to have a negative effect on battery life.