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    Upgrading RAM, need some help from experts.

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Sam15, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Sam15

    Sam15 Newbie

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    So, here is the pic of my RAM. Its of Hynix PC2 5300 444 12
    Its currently of 1GB and I plan to put one more 1GB stick to make it of 2GB.

    The main problem I am facing is that like when I type something in chrome, it appears suddenly after 3 to 5 seconds.
    So, increasing RAM should help this kind of problem?

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    And here are the details shown by cpu-id software for my pc -

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    So, I am a bit confused and don't know what to buy. :eek: :eek:

    I read somewhere that its important to buy rams with exact same specs. Is that right?

    So, suggest me which RAM would be compatible for my motherboard? or to use with my current ram? Or else I will buy 2 rams of 1gb each if there is problem in using with my current RAM. :confused:
    I need to know the specs of ram which would work on my motherboard. :(

    Thanx
     
  2. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    RAM has no bearing on whether or not a program opens faster, than is an I/O bottleneck.

    915 chipset should do 4 GB max, but again I don't think the amount of RAM you have is what is causing your problem.
     
  3. Sam15

    Sam15 Newbie

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    But still which RAM should I buy? PC2 6400? or PC2 5300 and 667mhz or 800mhz?
     
  4. Tsunade_Hime

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    RAM speed is negligible, it honestly doesn't matter.
     
  5. Sam15

    Sam15 Newbie

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    I just want to know if which one is compatible with my motherboard?
     
  6. tilleroftheearth

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    Chrome is a memory hog... and I see that you're running a 32bit system (Win XP?). I would recommend buying two new identical Sodimms (2x2GB) and see how your system is meant to operate.

    Make sure the RAM is returnable with no restocking fee - and if 4GB doesn't work; you can always try with 2GB (2x 1GB Sodimms).

    Any DDR2 Sodimm with spec's higher than PC25300 will work (the higher spec'd parts will clock down to match your motherboard).


    Note that with your 32bit O/S you will not be able to utilize the full 4GB RAM - doesn't matter - it will still be better as it will (should) be running in dual channel and this is a noticeable improvement by itself.

    Make sure to remove your battery and power connector before swapping parts on your notebook.

    Good luck.
     
  7. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Did you look at the pictures he posted? That's a desktop system, not a notebook.
     
  8. tilleroftheearth

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    Can't see pictures right now - but I am on notebookreview.com forum, right? :)
     
  9. Sam15

    Sam15 Newbie

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    Yes, I am using Windows XP 32 bit. :) and its a desktop. :p
    I plan to buy 2 x 1GB sticks as I am not sure if 2GB sticks would work or not. :D

    What about frequency? 800Mhz or 667mhz? if I buy the PC2 6400
     
  10. tilleroftheearth

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    Like I said before: it won't matter - the MB will make sure to downclock the RAM to match.
     
  11. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Please STOP writing such a misleading information if you are not aware of this situation. You can't write axioms of 8GB DDR3 systems with an I3/5/7 to the situation of 1GB of DDR2 400/533/667 RAM! That is why this thread is calling for experts.

    @sam15
    1. If you want to get correct advice you need to give close to full specs o your machine. 2 screens of CPU-z is OK but it would be better if you also gave us Memory screenshot and CPU too. SPD screenshot shows smth strange while you say you have only 1GB stick in the computer.
    2. If you have XP then you need to have at least 2GB of RAM for normal work like browsing etc. For Windows 7 it will be 2/3GB minimum.
    3. I suggest you to buy either 2x2GB of DDR2 800 RAM or buy used 2GB stick of 800/667/533 RAM. Most of 800 RAM will downclock to 533 and will work with your present RAM.
    4. If you want better help of better skilled people you better go to PC Forums - Desktop Computer Forums and Discussions because as tilleroftheearth said we are better in notebooks/tablets than desktops.

    What I really suggest you to do:

    1. if you are living in the USA then buy NEW laptop/desktop. Especially now on Black Friday. For example for 400$ you can buy last gen I-core laptop 17" Toshiba Satellite Toshiba Satellite 17.3" Laptop w/Intel Core i3-3110M 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HD (Satin Black) - Black Friday And in 1-2 years if you want/need you will simply upgrade RAM etc instead of buying smth else. It should be long-lasting laptop and it already has installed Windows 8 which is good for low skilled tech people. This laptop has good resolution screen and processor for its money.
    owadays you don't want to pay so much for slow overpriced DDR2 memory unless you buy used one for very low cost.

    2. If you live elsewhere then find a very tech skilled guy (son of your neighbors) who will give you all info of what system to buy for your budget.

    I live in Ukraine so I am very well known what a cheap budget system is... But even I say that DDR2 533 systems must be changed for newer machines.

    Trust me 3GB is much better than 2GB. 2GB sticks will work.
     
  12. Tsunade_Hime

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    If the machine POSTs fine and doesn't BSOD, I don't see why RAM speed makes any difference at all. RAM speed is mostly a marketing gimmick, there are no real world, normal use benefits of "faster" RAM, in fact it seems like his machine chipset is so old, it may not support 800/667 natively anyway which is why I posted RAM speed makes no difference, it will downclock to the slowest bottleneck which will either be the slowest stick of RAM or chipset limitation.
     
  13. Geekz

    Geekz Notebook Deity

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    with the response time being slow, I suggest posting a screenshot of your processes. it can be a number of things running on the background like an anti virus or malware.

    could also be you need to reformat and do a clean install to remove junk software

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
     
  14. Sam15

    Sam15 Newbie

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    Hi James D,
    Here are the final screenshots of everything you want.
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    I am using XP on my Desktop which pretty old now. :)
    Check and tell me if I could buy the 2GB stick or simply buy 2x1GB sticks? Because if I buy two sticks then there won't be any problem in incompatibility as both of them would be having same specs.
     
  15. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Ok, I see now.

    Think yourself now that if you buy singe 2GB stick of RAM and EVEN if you are so unlucky that get a compatibility problem (highly doubt) then you still can put single 2GB stick without your present one and you will have same amount of RAM as it would be if you bought 2x1Gb sticks! See now?
    The only thing you risk is that in this case it will work in single mode BUT it is very small chance while if you success you will have 3GB of RAM which is very useful to have, trust me.

    The only problem is what speed type to buy. I would buy which ever is cheaper but preferably 800Mhz. Your current RAM is 667Mhz (PC2-5336) while your system downclocks it to 533Mhz. So I would buy 800 which will be downclocked.
     
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    Sam15 Newbie

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    Ok so PC2 5300 means 533mhz and PC2 6400 means 800? Am I right?
     
  17. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Yep, almost. Just multiply Mhz on 8 and you will get the type of RAM. 667*8= ~5300. 800*8=6400.
    Tha's why I said that your present RAM is 667 but it is downclocked by your desktop to work like 533 one.
     
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    Thanx for your help. :D :) I will buy a 2GB stick with PC2 6400 :)
     
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    UPDATE:
    Yesterday I was in my friend's apartment and looked at his computer. Even though was little bit alc. poisoned I found very interesting data.

    He has 4 sticks. 2 of them are exactly same manufacturer and speed but 512M size. 3rd one is PC-6400 512MB size. 4-th one is same fast but is 2GB sized.

    So as you can see he has a salad of sticks but computer still works. What I found is:
    - when there are only 2 old Hynix PC-5300 RAM in 2 yellow slots he has DUAL channel of 333MHz (actual 315Mhz) speed which equals to 667Mhz (actual 630 Mhz). No idea why his Nvidia chipset slow downs RAM.
    - when he has either 1 or 2 sticks of faster PC6400 RAM he has STILL SINGLE channel mode of 400MHz (actual 385 Mhz). I believe it is because old chipset doesn't support nowadays Flex mode - dual channel with different sized RAM sticks. Will write more later.
    - when he puts all in we see SINGLE channel 333MHz (315Mhz).

    Speed of RAM is very important on DDR2 systems and especially if it is single mode. It is a bottleneck if actual speed is slower than 667Mhz (any single mode). Same as any amount of RAM less than 3.33GB.
    This computer supports maximum 533 Mhz (dual channel 267Mhz).

    What you need for best performance now is to by either:
    2x2GB DDR2 RAM. (better 800mhz as you may use it for later or sell it later)
    2GB stick and 1GB stick. Flex mode will be enabled if same amount of RAM will be on both channels. This older Flex needs either 2 same sticks OR 2 sticks with overall amount of 1 stick.

    1GB + 1GB/2GB STICK OR 2GB/2GB
     
  20. Sam15

    Sam15 Newbie

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    Hi James D,
    I did as you said. :D
    I purchased 2GB RAM and now its working very fine with my previous 1GB RAM. So, I got total 3GB now. :)

    Thanx :)