Upcoming mobile AMD CPUs

Here is a little information about the upcoming AMD Mobile CPUs that is replacing Trinity: Richland

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Here is a short presentation about the upcoming new generation

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now who's gonna put full power A10 into 13" laptop with decent screen ??

 

Challenge accepted.

My gripe with so many AMD CPUs is the PGA. Ever since one of the pins on an old P4 I had was bent, after I got my hands on a LGA CPU, I've never looked back. To my knowledge, only their Opterons are LGA.

 

how are amd notebooks on battery life and heat? Never owned.

 

Well, I hope they actually do have that much of an increase in performance - AMD could use it.

 

This will put a direct fit replacement for trinity in my notebook?

 

I wouldn't bet on that.

 

So from now we have to just watch A10-5750M on Ebay and try. Hope will work!

 

I think I saw a post or article somewhere where somebody replaced a trinity with a richland. I think it was in the MSI GX60, might be in the owners thread.

Kind of pointless, though. I've done plenty of desktop cpu replacements (all but my most recent desktop have gotten the cpu replaced), but it seems like it is more hassle than it is worth here, especially for such an incremental gain. Unless the guy had a dual core trinity replaced with the quad core richland (unlikely).

My desktop cpu upgrades have basically been (1) 486 to Pentium Overdrive; (2) PIII 450 (Katmai) -> PIII 700 (Coppermine) -> Celeron 1.3 Ghz (Tualatin) and (3) Core 2 Duo e6400 (2 cores, 2.13 ghz) to Core 2 quad q6600 (4 cores, 2.4 ghz). A trinity to richland update seems too incremental for the money unless you're getting a core count or gpu shader count increase as well.

 

To my knowledge, you can still upgrade as they will continue using the FM2 socket.

AMD A10-Series A10-5800K - AD580KWOA44HJ / AD580KWOHJBOX

AMD A10-Series A10-6800K - AD680KWOA44HL

 

FM2 is desktop. Not sure whether the mobile chips will retain the same socket, although AMD is generally better about this than Intel.

I much prefer PGA over LGA. Intel switched to LGA only to cut their costs, so that motherboard manufacturers would be responsible for the pins and any damage caused to them by the end-user. The pins on the motherboard are a lot more fragile and more of a PITB to get back into shape if you bend them. My favorite way to bend CPU pins back into alignment is with a razor blade to make all the rows line up, although there are other methods.

 

It's easier to fix a pin on a CPU than on a mobo anyways.

 

Aye, I've tried razor blades, credit cards, and a mechanical pencil. Success was hit or miss, even with the pins straightened. I have yet to damage the socket pins.

/knocks on wood

 

Notebook APU socket will also stay the same. AMD bought an off the shelf HP laptop and replaced the Trinity chip with Richland A10-5750M and it just worked.
Now lets hope all other notebook OEMs keep their motherboard BIOSes up to date.

 

A10-5750M inside the MSI GX60











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its an improvement

 

I'm not so interested in Richland as much as I am into Kaveri.

With what AMD stated about 30-40% improvement on Steamroller architectural improvements on the cpu alone, it seems as though it might be able to go against or be mostly comparable to/close enough to Intel IB or Haswell quads in CPU performance (nevermind the graphics performance).

 

Yes absolutely. 7660G from Trinity scores about 5310 in graphic score in Fire Strike so we are looking at almost 30% increase in that benchmark. Pretty nice job by AMD

Absolutely, that will the most interesting APUs from AMD since its a brand new architecture. Coming pretty soon, late 2013, too I think?

 

Kaveri (which is based on Steamroller) was said that it will be released later this year. As for the exact date... not sure, but I think I might have read something about September/October as a release date (so basically right after the summer).

Either way, it will be interesting to see how it compares to Intel's existing (let alone upcoming offerings).

 

And in 3DMark11 test showing no improvement. I'm confused, maybe this Richland had bigger TDP room... Seems like CPU cores were also hitting frequently the max Turbo 3.5GHz. I have some hopes in Richland now, especially with 1866MHz DDR3.

 

Wow more benchmarks, thanks

Its faster there too mate.
7660G (Trinity, 4600M): 1058 Graphic score in 3DMark11
8650G (Richland, 5750M): 1265 Graphic score in 3DMark11

Thats 20% faster in DX11

 

Notebookcheck database based on early drivers. Since Catalyst 12.8 driver 4600M manages around 1330 total score and that is close enough to 5750M.
I say, let's wait now for an A10-4600M owner to verify Cloud Gate score with the newest Catalyst driver.

 

A10-4600M 7660G 13.5 Beta 2

3DMark 11: AMD Radeon HD 7660G video card benchmark result - AMD A10-4600M,Hewlett-Packard 180F score: P1295 3DMarks (P1295 - Graphics 1217)

3DMark 13 Ice Storm: AMD Radeon HD 7660G video card benchmark result - AMD A10-4600M,Hewlett-Packard 180F (43286 - Graphics 59370)

3DMark 13 Cloud Gate: AMD Radeon HD 7660G video card benchmark result - AMD A10-4600M,Hewlett-Packard 180F (4202 - Graphics 6586)

3DMark 13 Fire Strike: AMD Radeon HD 7660G video card benchmark result - AMD A10-4600M,Hewlett-Packard 180F (800 - Graphics 880)

 

Thanks HT. Yikes, Lets hope they tested the Richland on the old driver then. 5% increase on Cloud Gate and in 3DMark11 would be really depressing

 

Actually 5% gain is something from the same manufacturing technology, design and TDP limit. Than faster memory will bring another 5-10% extra GPU performance and that is 10-15% increase altogether.

 

now you know why I just said thats an improvement

 

Well all mobiles are PGA Also the pins on the opterons were shorter than their intel counterparts IIRC.