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    T9500 vs.T9600

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by mesarmath, Dec 5, 2009.

  1. mesarmath

    mesarmath Notebook Geek

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    How big difference would be if i have T9600 instead of T9500?

    T9500 2.6GHZ, 6MB cache, 800 mhz FSB
    T9600 2.8GHZ, 6MB cache, 1066mhz FSB


    i have 3 gb DDR2 RAM 800 MHZ (so no support for DDR3)
    i usually play games with my notebook.

    Could you tell me your ideas?
     
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  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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  3. mesarmath

    mesarmath Notebook Geek

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    i have the chipset P45 and i think it is enough for T9600.
    and i have Zalman Cooler NC1000.

    and one more question:
    is it safe to overclock it 4 Ghz and to play intensive games for several hours?

    and how can i overclock it?
     
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  4. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You would have to use setfsb.

    Or if that doesn't work then you would need to pin mod your PLL (clock generator).
    I can help you with that if you want.
    Took my T7300 and T8100 to over 2.7ghz.

    4ghz is not going to be safe just because of the heat.
    But 3.2-3.4ghz should be fine.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The good thing about the T9600 is that your FSB :DRAM ratio could change in your favor. Letting you overclock more without the ram becoming unstable.

    How much could you sell the T9500 for and how much is a T9600?
    You might get away with a free upgrade i.e. sell the T9500 and with the money you get, buy the T9600.
     
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  6. mesarmath

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    thanks so much
     
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  7. jenesuispasbavard

    jenesuispasbavard Notebook Evangelist

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    A word (a few sentences, actually) of caution: I have a T9600 and the CPU only goes up to 3.15 GHz from 2.80 GHz. At 3.2 GHz, it crashes after about four hours of heavy-duty computing (SETI@Home). And at 3.3 GHz it crashes (blue-screen) in a few minutes.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No problem ;)

    I am just wondering if your notebook could support a Q9000.
    It is around the same price as a T9600.

    What is the model of your notebook?
     
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  9. mesarmath

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    would be similar for T9500?
     
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  10. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Could you please do a test for me:
    First use ORTHOS on the "stress CPU" setting.
    Then do it on the "blend" setting.

    If it doesn't fail on the "stress CPU" setting, but does fail on the "blend" setting then you have unstable ram.

    Could be fixed with thaiphoon burner.
     
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  11. mesarmath

    mesarmath Notebook Geek

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    samsung R522
    ICHM-9, PM45 chipset.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I would say probably not.

    The T9500 is highly binned since it's the best CPU with an 800mhz FSB (apart from the extreme CPUs).

    I think the T9500 has better chance of overclocking higher.
     
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  13. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Your chipset will support a Q9000, but your BIOS may not.
     
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  14. jenesuispasbavard

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    I used to have a P7350 (that came with this laptop), and that went to a higher FSB than the T9600, so I'm almost positive my RAM can take it.

    P7350 - 2.00 -> 2.45 GHz (+60 MHz FSB)
    T9600 - 2.80 -> 3.15 GHz (+33 MHz FSB)

    I'll try the tests anyway.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Still 3.15ghz is very nice.
    I would be happy with that :)
     
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  16. mesarmath

    mesarmath Notebook Geek

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    what about T9600?

    and one more question: if i dont overclock , which one would you choose between T9600 and T9500? and assume you have T9500 and by $50 more you have T9600?
     
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  19. Serg

    Serg Nowhere - Everywhere

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    One little warning though, that WILL void your warranty.
     
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  20. mesarmath

    mesarmath Notebook Geek

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    offcourse if i do it myself, but Samsung service will replace it for a $35 in order not to void warranty.
     
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    You could also install a P9700. Same specs as the T9600 except it uses less power (runs cooler). T9600 should be more stable than P9700 when overclocked. I considered T9600 when I upgraded from P8400 but I chose the power saving one.
     
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  22. jenesuispasbavard

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    So, I ran ORTHOS at 3.2 GHz and 3.15 GHz, and at 3.2 GHz, it gave me an error on the second thread within 6 seconds (rounding error), on both the 8K FFT and 1024K FFT tests, so it's not the RAM that is causing the problem.

    Prime95 gave me exactly the same error, again in some 6 seconds.

    In fact, this thing isn't even stable at 3.15 GHz, there's the same error within about 3 minutes. :(

    Did I just get a particularly badly binned one? If so, should I sell it and get something else if I really need the speed?

    EDIT: Finally, 3.10 GHz seems to be stable, with the 1024K test running for 30 minutes.
     
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    what laptop do you have? Depending on that , we can be sure if Q9000 works... but seriously , unless you can sell your T9500 and buy a T9600 and in the end spend only $50 extra , then only buy the T9600 otherwise T9500 is enough...
     
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  24. tilleroftheearth

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    If you really want to stress test your system try this (in a much shorter time):

    http://downloads.guru3d.com/IntelBurnTest-v2.3-download-2047.html

    All appropriate warnings apply! Make sure you're using a notebook cooler - at least!
     
    tilleroftheearth, Dec 5, 2009
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