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  1. spamish

    spamish Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    I have been looking at a couple of a laptops with T7100 processor but I was wondering if there was a AMD equivalent???

    Cheers!
     
  2. baddogboxer

    baddogboxer Notebook Deity

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    Turion64 X2 TL-60 @2Ghz is almost as fast. Any faster Turion64 X2 will be the faster overall.
     
  3. ToxicBanana

    ToxicBanana Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you can make such a clean comparison of a Turion64 X2 to an Intel Centrino Duo. In terms of frequency, the AMD is faster. However, does it perform better? In the desktop realm, the slower clocked Core 2 Duo's have been proven superior, with AMD competing on price points. Laptop benchmarking is more difficult because you can't simply change the processors. A good comparison between mobile AMD and Intel processors was done by Toms Hardware ( see here). They don't have the X2 TL-60 or the t7100, but they do show that the Intel processors beat the AMD processors in almost every Benchmark.

    Sorry if this seems wordy, but overall I don't think there is an AMD processor that is "faster" than the t7100. If you need a fast laptop, Intel is the way to go. If you want a lower priced laptop and aren't spending hours doing 3D rendering, numeric modeling, or video editing, the AMD is a good choice.
    Also note, the t7100 is a Santa Rosa chip with some nice power saving features to keep your lap cool and save battery life.
     
  4. hlcc

    hlcc Notebook Evangelist

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    TL-64

    my TL-60 seems to perform about the same as my T5470(C2D 1.6)
     
  5. baddogboxer

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    ToxicBanana, No disrespect but your statement “I don't think there is an AMD processor that is "faster" than the t7100” shows me your bias. A TL-66 is 2.3 Ghz 500Mhz faster than T7100 1.8Ghz 28% more clocks and your T7100does not have 4MB L2. Many things are debatable but I don't think your comment being wrong leaves much room for debate. Also in wprime TL's Beat C2d even with the 4MB L2 clock for clock. So try and remember they are just benchmarks and not real world, use them as guides not facts.

    hlcc, TL-64 yea, but I still stand by TL-60 almost real world. Either one I think is an acceptable substitution.
     
  6. moon angel

    moon angel Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Here's my issue: if the T7100 only has 2MB L2 cache isn't intel's part number a bit misleading? SHouldn't it be a T5670 or something?
     
  7. ToxicBanana

    ToxicBanana Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    baddogboxer, I'm not trying to start an AMD vs Intel thread (I currently use AMD), but please do reference benchmarks showing TLs beating Core2Duos. From all the knowledge I've gathered, the opposite is true. Also, I never stated that t7100 has 4Mb L2 cache, but it still has double the TL-66's 512Kb per core.

    I will concede that in benchmark results (which I can't find), the top-of-the-line TL-66 will likely outperform the mid-range t7100. However, in the benchmarks I refer to at Toms Hardware, the 1.66Ghz t2300 outperforms the 1.8Ghz TL-56. Therefore, clock speed isn't everything.

    The question then becomes, are there any Turion64 TL (Tyler generation) laptops on the market that can be compared with current T7100 laptops?
     
  8. ToxicBanana

    ToxicBanana Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    It is misleading - all processor designations are confusing these days. The difference is in the FSB.
    T7xxx have 800FSB
    T5xxx have 667FSB

    see here
     
  9. baddogboxer

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    ToxB I think the most important thing I said in my post was “No disrespect but your statement”, I stand by what I said about comparable CPU's in both the 1st and 2nd Posts. I did not mean to imply you ever said 4MBL2 and do not believe that is what I did. But if you think I did then fine I would be wrong on that, you never said 4MBL2. But (“it still has double the TL-66's 512Kb per core.” ;) the comparison between L2 only works between Intels not to AMD's because of the design and Intel shares the entire L2 over both Procs, remember AMD has twice the L1 but I am throwing that out until now. One thing you did not respond to is my questioning of the validity of benchmarks in the first place. And you go back to them? Also I believe there are Turion TL (Trinidad's) that will out perform the T7100.

    TL-60 and up good replacements for T7100!
     
  10. Brandontw

    Brandontw Notebook Guru

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    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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