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    SSD upgrade at purchase vs SSD aftermarket upgrade

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by decrescendo, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. decrescendo

    decrescendo Notebook Geek

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    One of my main requirements for a new Ivy Bridge laptop is a true SSD drive (not a SSD/HD cache combination). However, I'm noticing a true manufacturer SSD upgrade option is more rare than I would have guessed.

    Am I better off choosing a laptop based on those with manufacturer SSD upgrades at purchase or should I not let that drive my decision?

    I'm a little nervous that I will somehow void the warranty if I try an aftermarket SSD upgrade on my own. Any thoughts? I'm sure a lot of you have experience with this.
     
  2. tilleroftheearth

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    You will not void the warranty if you put in an aftermarket SSD (this is exactly the same as upgrading the supplied HDD with a better HDD...).

    Do not let this drive your decision: base it on the best hardware/software and vendor support you can afford at the best combination of price you can get. With this step out of the way, upgrade the machine to fit your needs (exactly).

    The only thing I would watch out for is for the machines that are basically sealed 'AIO' units and would make upgrading essentials like RAM and HDD/SSD drives harder than necessary.

    Good luck.
     
  3. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    99.9% of the time it's cheaper to buy a SSD after and install it yourself. Most notebook manufacturers allow HDD/RAM upgrades so you won't void your warranty.
     
  4. PatchySan

    PatchySan Om Noms Kit Kat

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    I would go for aftermarket SSD's if a self upgrade is possible, it shouldn't affect the system warranty and would most certainly be cheaper and probably faster than the SSD from the vendor directly. Plus you also tend to be covered by the SSD's own warranty should anything go wrong with it too.
     
  5. decrescendo

    decrescendo Notebook Geek

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    Thanks!

    So all of these SSD/HD combo/cache drives out there, are they a different size than the standard 2.5" or 3.5" drives? If my laptop comes with one of them, can I swap out that cache/combo drive for just a single 2.5" SSD? Or will I be left with a hole where the original normal HD was?
     
  6. maverick1989

    maverick1989 Notebook Deity

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    Yes I am pretty sure you can simply remove your older one or put the SSD into the second slot (if you have a 17" laptop or larger).
     
  7. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    Those SSD cache + HDD combos usually use a mSATA SSD as cache (the form factor is different). A regular 2.5" SSD will replace the 2.5" HDD. Note that i'm not talking about hybrid drives like the momentus XT where the 4GB or 8GB cache depending on the model is on the HDD itself. mSATA SSD cache usually sit at 32GB.

    In order of performance (highest to lowest):
    SSD > mSATA SSD cache + HDD > Hybrid drive > HDD

    In order of cost (from highest to lowest):
    SSD > mSATA SSD cache + HDD > Hybrid drive > HDD

    In order of storage capacity (Higest to lowest):
    HDD/Hybrid/mSATA+HDD > SSD

    In the end what you choose will depend on cost and the capacity you need as well as the performance you want. For example, in a laptop that has a mSATA connector, i would personally, replace the mSATA cache with a 128GB mSATA SSD for an OS drive and use the HDD for storage or i'd go all out and go mSATA SSD 128GB + SSD, maybe even RAID those suckers if it's possible.

    EDIT If you have a 17" notebook, you likely have two hard drive bays which means that you could do like tilleroftheearth said: put a HDD in one bay and a SSD in the other like i have in my G73JH (see my signature)
     
  8. decrescendo

    decrescendo Notebook Geek

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    So an mSATA cache is somehow different than an mSATA SSD? And both of those are a different form factor/connection type than a regular 2.5" SSD drive?
     
  9. Type 100

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    Physically they are the same thing; mSATA is both a form factor and connection type. The roles they play however are slightly different.

    Basically if you set an mSATA SSD as a cache, it becomes a "slave" drive to speed up access times of a "master" drive. The OS does not pick up the mSATA SSD as a separate drive; it is essentially invisible as far as the OS is concerned. All it does is act as a quick-reading buffer or cache for the master drive - usually a mechanical hard disk.

    If you were to set the mSATA SSD as a standalone drive, then it would be identified under the OS with its own drive letter. Freed from caching duty, it would have nothing to do with any other disk.

    So a quick recap.
    Let's say you have a 500GB hard disk and a 60GB mSATA SSD on the same machine. What role is the SSD performing?
    If it is set as cache, all you will see under "My Computer" is the hard disk (for example, C: ).
    If it is acting as an independent drive, you should see two disks under "My Computer" (C: for the hard disk and D: for the SSD).

    HTH
     
  10. decrescendo

    decrescendo Notebook Geek

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    So there is some option to do that in BIOS? Where you can set that mSATA drive as a full-up separate drive as opposed to a pass-through to the main drive (HD or SSD).
     
  11. decrescendo

    decrescendo Notebook Geek

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    My next question is:

    How easy is it to replace the OS drive in a laptop without an optical drive? How would I get an OS back on a new SSD I added in an aftermarket fashion? Is an external optical drive recognized by the BIOS before you install the OS and USB drivers?
     
  12. maverick1989

    maverick1989 Notebook Deity

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    AFAIK, the USB is an option in the BIOS to boot from (that is where you would connect the external right?). So you can change the preference so that the USB is looked at first, that would initialize the external which would start the installation. That is a good question and I have never thought of this before but I see no reason why it shouldn't work.
     
  13. Syberia

    Syberia Notebook Deity

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    You can boot from USB devices in BIOS. You will be able to use a USB DVD drive or a flash drive to install the OS. I even had this option on my Dell from 2005, so it's been standard for a long time.
     
  14. tilleroftheearth

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    Yeah, even MS gives us the tools to do this properly:

    See:
    Microsoft Store Online


    (As long as you're trying to install Windows, of course).
     
  15. decrescendo

    decrescendo Notebook Geek

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    Sounds good to me. Thanks for the reply. I'm now very comfortable not getting an optical drive in my new computer since I RARELY use one nowadays. The re-installation process was the only thing making me debate it.
     
  16. tijo

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    also i find it faster to install from USB which is an added bonus.
     
  17. decrescendo

    decrescendo Notebook Geek

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    flash drive that has an image on it?
     
  18. tilleroftheearth

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    You obviously did not click on the link I provided...


     
  19. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame

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    Yep

    /10
     
  20. Type 100

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    Great question, and I'm quoting this post so that others more knowledgeable about this can comment on it (might have been overlooked). I know how the caching system works in principle, but I'm not 100% sure how you can toggle the mSATA SSD's role from cache to independent drive and back.

    My guess would be some sort of BIOS setting as well; one of Intel's technologies for the Z68 chipset (Smart Response Technology, I believe) was basically SSD caching for desktop systems.
     
  21. decrescendo

    decrescendo Notebook Geek

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    So does anyone know if one can just shut off the mSATA SSD if you can't set it to run as a normal drive?