PIN modding or overclocking

anyone had success in over clocking santa rosa chipsets. Or pin modding can someone send me a PM on your thoughts.

 

Have not with santa rosa chipsets, only had one overclock so far. I was able to push the 2.0Ghz p4m on my old dell 8500 up to 2.2Ghz. But nothing past that. I used clock gen. Have not been able to get it to do anything with my Dell E1505, Voodoo ENVY U709, or my Lenovo T61.

K-TRON

 

There is no such technique on the new merom or even the yonah cpus on the santa rosa. This "pin mod" method only worked on Dothan(Pentium M) with the Sonoma platform.

 

I wanted to see if can be done i am trying to figure out a way to overclock toshiba X205-sli1. I know about the cautions with the heat.

 

You cannot overclock Intel mobile CPUs sorry. The GPUs, yes, but not the processors.

 

Pinmods on santarosa are untested as of yet that I can tell.

Find the correct PLL and you can overclock fine, but its a pain and the datasheets are often not released so nobody can code for them for programs like clockgen or systool etc..

 

I found the PLL its the same as the one in compel. I am thinking maybe hacked bios. I am not sure where it is on the mobo. Found everything else NB SB I cant seem to find the bios chip.

 

If its the same as on the compal (what model specifically?) then just use what the compal users were using.. (clockgen, systool, setfsb, crystal cpuid, ????) if they were using anything.

If not then post the PLL here and i'll see if I can find a datasheet.

 

They dont have a clue on the compel side. I posted a picture of the PLL thanks STEvil but, it is ICS 9LPRS365BGLF

 

IFL-90 is the model apparently.

Give this a try: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=2694119&postcount=17

EDIT

SetFSB apparently supports the PLL: http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturerdi0.jpg

EDIT 2

http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/download/test/setfsb20b18m.zip SetFSB beta for that PLL. Check to see if newest version has it as well.

EDIT 3

Datasheets and other info: http://www.idt.com/?partID=9LPRS365BGLF

Also correct (? needs verification) way to pinmod notebook cpu's: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=2767866&postcount=43

 

Yes its possible. Yes it has been done.

I have done it!!!

Has it worked perfectly? No. The chipset through my research seems to throttle the multiplier and keep it stuck at 6x.

Here's my thread on it:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=154324

Apparantly the ati chipsets work with the pinmod, but the intel ones do not. I can't program BIOS' so I can't do anything that complex to figure out if this is something a BIOS hack would fix.

 

Interesting! Well, I stand corrected!

However, this pin mod is still not 100% working right except for the ATi chipsets(GPU)? I assume your using Merom 533FSB processors on Santa Rosa chipsets? or are the sockets completely different ie; socket-P socket-M? Please explain in more detail I might have some insight as to how to get this working.

 

you sre awesome STEvil i will try them out

 

ps2cho, look at my post.

 

Yes I am using the 1.5GHz Merom 533FSB and I pinmoded it to 800FSB which yields 1.8GHz. It's socket P.

@STE: The datasheets are available and that is where I got my pin layout's. The problem isn't with voltage here. The problem is with the chipset throttling.

And before easy stuff comes out -- yes we have tried every form of software to try and force the FSB to budge and it refuses too. I understand that these CPU's do not allow for multiplier adjustments at all regardless unlike the Dothan processors.


^ There's the layout.

As I said, somebody with an ATI chipset successfuly pinmodded their 533MHz Yonah processor to 800FSB.

 

Hmm.. This looks like a chipset level issue that is downclocking the multiplier automatically after it detects an overclocked cpu? or is that the chipset locks itself down once it detects the FSB increase and not the CPU itself? Obviously the BSEL VSS trick worked, as it has for the Dothans, and this is no different. I'm dissappointed that intel has finally done something (which I thought they really didn't care before) to counter overclocking. I'll further research this issue, but I doubt there is anything we can do as of now unless someone starts modifying either on the BIOS level or the Intel chipset drivers level. That way we can then use software to unlock this multiplier problem.

So it's definately comfirmed that the AMD/ATI 200M chipset completely works?

 

Yes I saw a screenshot of it. Let me see if I dig it up.

EDIT: Well here's another instance which sums up what I am saying: http://www.ps2cho.net/downloads/photos/1520/pinmod_example1.JPG
The BIOS reads it fine, but it seems something at the chipset level -- whenever an OS reads it, throttles right away. It happens in windows and linux, so its not a driver hack.
Here's the quote

EDIT2: And another ati chipset successful pinmod: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=245977

 

ps2cho, here is the info you seem to be missing from my post.

Link found in my post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=2767866&postcount=43

Contents of link from within post:

Which consequently also lines up with the "break the pin off" method since the end effect is the pins need proper grounding or power to work it seems.


Now that I think of it, I wonder if that "Dirt" is the same guy who worked on 4x4 Evo 2....

 

I have a toshiba X205- sli1 I have replaced my cpu with a X7800 @2.6 ES. I would like to find a way improve it asus gets away 3 ghz OC why not toshiba.

 

I tried to use FSBset nothing reverts back to stock clocks. thanks for the posts if i find something out i will let you guys know

 

Um, there is no way of overclocking a Santa Rosa chipset as of now. And I doubt there will be.

IF you are referring to the ASUS C90S which is the only ASUS that can reach 3 ghz, it uses the desktop 945 chipset with a desktop Conroe processor, which is the reason why it can be overclocked(only slightly due to heat and power consumption).

Seriously, you just upgraded to an X7800 even if you wanted to pin-mod, theoretically you've already hit the maximum limit of 200 FSB on the notebook. You can't go any higher than that, the previous Dothan(Pentium M 2MB cache) and the Core 2 Duo pin-modding we are talking about are using (older) processors of a lower FSB and running it at the higher FSB ie; T7200(merom 667) stock is 12x 166 mhz - 2Ghz, on the ATi M200 technically it's possible to run 12x 200 mhz = 2.4Ghz instead using the pin mod.

Most games are GPU dependant so you won't even see that performance increase even if the Santa Rosa platform is overclockable ( IT ISN'T though!)

 

I still iam interested in trying to figure out a way to do it. I think that its cool the clevo 570ru has the capiblity of overclocking. It uses santa rosa chipset. THe MSI gx600 can do it. I am just curious on how they due it is it through the bios, besides GX600 has that turbo button. And one of the G2 models can to.

 

Any platform that utilizes a PLL is overclockable, D3X.

Sometimes its hard to do, sometimes not.