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    No market for 19'' and 21'' lappies?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Helpmyfriend, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. Helpmyfriend

    Helpmyfriend Notebook Evangelist

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    From what I know this is the only 19'' and it bombed. Is there no market for lappies this size?

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  2. nikeseven

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    Anything that big seems to remove any aspect of easy portability. But even as a desktop replacement, the price to performance of a normal desktop would be impossible to match, while putting a 19" monitor and keyboard/mouse would take up less space.
     
  3. JohnnyFlash

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    There's been a few, but for a unit to be a success, joe sixpack needs to buy them. Most joe's see it as way too big for what they need. I have an HDX20, and even though it was amazing, they didn't sell well either.

    At the end of the day, the average person buys a laptop for portability first. Laptops this big just aren't very portable.
     
  4. jeffreybaks

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    It cant hurt having that type of laptop on the market. Alienware came out with a malx Aurora 19 inch laptop and it sold well and was really cool. Hp HDX Dragon is a 20 inch laptop. Theres a few others, Eurocom, sager. I personally like them and if they could put in a s-ips/h-ips/p-ips display to boot that would make them the ultimate mobile workstation.
     
  5. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The problem is, it does hurt companies if they come out with a model like this and the demand isn't high enough since they have to custom order a lot of different products that they wouldn't normally order (ie. screen, chassis, motherboard, etc.).
     
  6. Fishsticks

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    Miniturization and carbon nanofibre batteries promises that gaming desktops will soon be in laptop size portions... and we will start seeing 21" laptops :)

    I expect the future to be:
    (a) mostly laptop centric, with a dock that connects up to desktop functionality for home/work usage, and we'll carry our laptops around.
    (b) mostly cloudly (cloud computing), synchronized files over the internet and dedicated nettops at where we would normally access the computer. Slates or smartphones will replace laptops.
    (c) the Matrix.

    So if Option (A) happens, I'd expect there to be a wide range of laptop screens, perhaps up to 24".

    Unless we develop the opposite of a slate; a base: like a portable rig without the display, portable as a netbook, which we carry around and plug into screens provided by our iPads on our way to iWorkplace on the iCommute.
     
  7. JohnnyFlash

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    The Dragon has a 20.1 16:10 display. The HDX 18T is 18.4" and 16:9, which is somewhat smaller.
     
  8. TheCodeBreaker

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    I remember dell having an m2010 a 20 inch laptop :D but they didnt make any more
     
  9. funky monk

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    For cloud computing, you don't need a very powerful computer at all, it's just like watching youtube. However, I hate the idea as it means you don't actually "own" any of the games you buy, kinda like steam but a step further (I'm not totally happy with steam either, although I just have to live with it). Secondly, I doubt slates will every "replace" laptops as such, they have a market to fill but they never seemed as practical (for example, there's nothing to protect the screen, you have to crane over them, to type on them you have to take up lots of screenspace etc.). Also, the idea of carrying laptops around with us everywhere we go wouldn't really be practical either since to be small enough to be truely portable it would essentially be a netbook (good in a few contexts but in many other they really don't hit the mark). Secondly, if you expect laptops to get to 24" proportions then carrying them around would get even less practical.

    There are reasons extremely large laptops never caught on, the main one being that instead of being considered laptops, one had to consider it more of a "mobile computer with less power than a desktop for twice the price".
     
  10. sean473

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    19 is a little too heavy for laptops and 21 is huge.. people usually buy laptops for portability so really close to nobody would want to buy it.. some ppl already whine about 15 inchers..
     
  11. FroYo

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    very small market for photo and video pros.

    20+ inches is a "moblie" desktop or iMac with wacom touchpad like the Lenova something something.
     
  12. Xonar

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    Actually, the Alienware MALX sold terribly. It was equipped with a single-core Turion which was complete rubbish compared to the merom C2D's and Turion x2's. Not to mention the thing started at >$3,000 without dual video cards (That was an additional $700). Eventually, you could pick one up for <$1,000 because the demand was so low for them.

    Clevo was the only company at the time to sell notebooks >17''s, and eventually HP release the HDX Dragon, which was 20'', and was also shortlived for the same reason. It was expensive, not practical to move, and underpowered compared to a desktop. It was more of a "desktop sidekick" rather than a replacement.
     
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    That may be, but people still sell them on ebay and I still like how they look heh, and I still want one just cause I like collecting alienwares. It is very interesting tho that the addition of an extra video card for sli was 700 dollars. Thats alot of cold cash for sli. Its not all that much different tho now adays either, with the fermi 480 gtxs costing 900 a peace or almost 1200 more then a 5870 set up. Back then duel core hadnt been out that long either and not many things utalized it, but still It would have been better if they could have goton a athlon duel core in there at least. That would defenetly helped that situation out alot.
     
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    I think 18.4" will remain the largest size laptop, as long is 16:9 is the standard ratio. 18.4" is already huge (G73 and Qosmio x505 about the same size), I can't imagine anyone lugging a 21" notebook around.
     
  15. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    I would like a 21" laptop, so long as it has a WQXGA resolution...
     
  16. JohnnyFlash

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    You get used to the weight, but the size can be an issue. (ie airplanes)
     
  17. buckling spring

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    I don't remember the specifics, but I was at J&R in NYC last weekend, and I saw several 19" laptops. I thought they looked great, and they were priced for less than what I paid for my 15" Lenovo T510. So they are out there, and from what I saw they were not very expensive. Sorry I don't remember the makes or $$ amounts.
     
  18. sean473

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    the qosimo cannot be as huge as a G73... it has a much bigger screen and not to mention is built of heavier material.. i think a 17 inch M17x is bigger than a X505..
     
  19. woofer00

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    They exist and there is a market. It's just tiny.

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    I can't imagine carrying a 21" laptop anywhere. If that much real estate is necessary, there'll be space for a secondary monitor. At that point you're just building a portable desktop and can probably just use modified desktop SFF components.
     
  20. Judicator

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    It certainly can be. The G73 is not exactly designed to occupy a minimal space for it's 17.3" screen. In point of fact, the listed dimensions for the G73 are 16.33" x 12.59" x 1.8" and 8.5 lbs (with 8 cell battery), while the x505 lists in at 17.4" x 11.6" x 1.63" and 9.7 lbs and up. So as can obviously be seen here, while the x505 is definitely a pound or more heavier than the G73, and an inch wider, the G73 is a inch deeper, and a bit thicker. As with the M17x, a larger size is part of the price you pay for the "aggressive" styling.
     
  21. sean473

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    ok i didn't know that... but who cares? The G73's lighter and that's what matters :D because seriously , i doubt u can tell the difference in between them if they're side by side...