My friend cant decide

My friend is looking for a new laptop, he will be doing some light gaming like Halo. He is also using it for school work and movies. Here are the two he is looking at getting, he likes the asus with an hd3650 but is worried about the fact that it has a t5750 while the other sony laptop has a more powerful t8100 but only an x3100. Which would you recommend for his needs? I already know the answer but he still wants more input. Thanks alot

 

The T5750 is fine for gaming. Its unlikely it'll bottleneck gaming performance.
For gaming, X3100 is crap.

And a CPU can be upgraded. But I think upgrading CPUs on ASUS notebooks voids the warranty.

Anyway, the T5750 will run almost all games fine. Most games hardly make any use of the cache, and a 2GHz dual core CPU for gaming is pretty decent.

 

yep x3100 sux big time

 

what about 4500??? sux 2?? just curious~

 

For gaming, yes.

 

Tell him to stay away of the X3100 (and intel graphics cards in general) unless he wants it for tetris or card games.

 

i actually played medieval2 on an x3100, the horror...

 

LOL. I know. The way it is around here, anyone who has less than a top of the line GPU should bow their heads in shame and be cast out of the community.

 

no no it was a horror i turned off all the effects minimum resolution and still it was a slide show, the real surprise was that the 12" vaio didnt burst into flames.

 

That is correct. They have a small sticker stuck on top of one of the screws to the CPU heat sink (at least it was for the G1S). If you try to take the sticker off, it will just shreds... The sticker has basically got lines pre-cut into it.

 

Get the one with the graphics card. Both processors will be fine but the integrated graphics will be a huge bottle neck.

 

thanks guys, what about non gaming performance, how will the t8100 and t5750 be compared in normal tasks like internet browsing, office, movies, etc.

AGAIN, i know the answer but he wont listen to only me, even though im the overclocking God of the forums lmao

 

Negligible. With a 2.0ghz CPU is comes down to more RAM and hard drive speed. If you want to get technical, if both systems were to have similar specs, except for the processor, the T8100 would open IE/FF faster by like ~.1 seconds. If you have 2GB+ RAM, basic tasks like internet and word are not too CPU dependent.

 

now what days are these where mortals do not heed the gods ?
what he said ^

 

xtyfyb summed it up pretty well. It's 2.1 GHz vs. 2 GHz with a few other small advantages for the 2.1 GHz T8100. So you're talking 5% to 10% even in tasks that do depend on the CPU, and tasks such as Net browsing, office tasks, and movie watching will not be CPU-dependent 90% of the time even with the T5750. So with a 10% improvement (optimistically) on the 10% of the time these tasks will be CPU-bottlenecked, you're looking at about a 1% improvement in these tasks.

Whereas with the graphics cards, I have a card (8600M GT) that is many times better than the X3100 and in the somewhere in the vicinity of the HD3650, and while it handles Halo quite well, it's not quite 100% of the useful performance. It gets about 50 FPS on maximum settings at 1280x800. The X3100 won't get anywhere near 50 FPS on maximum settings, perhaps 20 FPS. So you're looking at a very large increase from the graphics card and very small from the CPU in this case.

Two other notes:

*Movie watching won't be on a problem from either one unless you mean High-Definition. Then the X3100 could be a problem. But my 1999 desktop can play DVD's just fine.
*If you're concerned about Halo performance with the T5750, don't be. I tested Halo with my Core 2 processor underclocked to 600 MHz and all settings on maximum, and still got 35 frames per second average, which is more than the X3100 would get regardless of processor. So you won't have Halo be CPU-bottlenecked with any Core 2 processor.

 

The processing power will not make a difference at all.
Make sure the system has a speedy harddrive like the latest generation 7200rpm drives from Hitachi, WD, Seagate, Fujitsu.
They are made in 80, 120, 160, 250 and 320gb sizes.

All of them are great drives and will yield the best booting and application loading times.

Also three gigs of memory is also a must if vista is being used.

K-TRON