MT3707 with T2300 potential problem due to FSB speed? and Engineering Sample?????

I have a MT3707 that was supposed to come with the T2060 but came with a T2300...great in theory.

Problem is the FSB on the T2060 is 533 and the T2300 is 667.

Sandra Utility is reporting that the motherboard chipset is not speced to go at that rate. So I presume that I am over driving that chipset as used. I also presume that some chipsets can go at higher rates and the Sandra Utility would see that. On the Gateway site it shows the motherboard is speced at 533.

So for a real tech expert the question is....is this a real problem or not. Could it cause instability. Obviously I would like keep the T2300.

NEXT

The T2300 is identified as an Engineering sample. I presume this was a gray market affair done in China between cousins during the assembly. Not a bad way to unload a few hundred free engineering samples.

I have never encountered an engineering sample in a Retail product before.....is this an issue, is the processor fully formed?

TIA

 

An interesting dilemma.

1. What does CPU-Z report about the CPU? Is it running at 533 or 667 FSB? If the motherboard doesn't support 667MHz then the CPU will have a maximum speed of 1.33GHz using the 533MHz FSB. Unless, as an engineering sample, the CPU's clock multiplier is unlocked and you can go higher.

2. If you are worried about stability then do an overnight run with something which will fully load the CPU. I use two separate instances of Prime95's torture test but there are other software which does a similar function. Just make sure it loads both cores.

John

 

The ES in my processor (see signature) stands for Engineering Sample. Works great, no problems.

 

cpu-z says
The Chipset is ATI RS400/RC400/RC410 Revision 01

Southbridge is ATI SB400

it says its running at 665 mhz.

I have a feeling that chipset will run this rate with no problem but some part of the gateway motherboard is indentifed lower....and its what Sandra reported.

I hesitate to do long run stress testing on laptops because of hte plastic. I had a Toshiba I ran 24 x 7...and some app was eating all the processing so it got hot. I push the mouse key and it broke off from its glue weld. the spring back of the buttom was based on a glue weld to the entire face plate. Toshiba to their credit (after some pleading) did replace then entire top plate) Long story short I don't want to build up heat in with all that plastic...on purpose.....for more than like and hour.

I think the main board is fine...and its just a strange reporting.....I will probably have to call up Gateway just to confirm.

Its definately running at T2300 speeds as it compares nearly exact to pre existing ratings of the T2300 in other machines

Speedfan shows loading on both cores when testing....on just one when mousing and idle

 

Gator: I am aware of gray market engineering samples....and overclockers at time wanting them because of lack of locks.

But is it common for them to show up in a Retail machine? I have sniffed this processor with just about every program out there to check its identity. One says it has Hyperthreading others specifically say it does not.

My concern is that this is Mutant CPU that has more or less feature than the standard part. I realize its probably fine.....

Would a manufacturer like Gateway intentionally use Engineering Samples in Retail products? Or was this a backroom deal done on the production floor in China to zip in some parts somebodies cousin who proudly lives next to the Intel testing building and is known to all as El Dumpster Diver.

 

Post screenies of CPU-Z? The main page and the chipset page to be exact.

p.s. FYI if you computer cant handle a full load run of 12 hours you got yourself a serious POS. Might look into returning it if there are parts failure with just 12 hours of load.

 

CPU-Z 1.40 report file
Processor(s)
Number of processors 1
Number of cores 2 per processor
Number of threads 2 (max 2) per processor
Name Intel Core Duo T2300
Code Name Yonah
Specification Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz
Package Socket 479 mPGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.E.8
Extended Family/Model 6.E
Core Stepping C0
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 997.6 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 6.0 x 166.3 MHz
Rated Bus speed 665.1 MHz
Stock frequency 1666 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 2048 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Chipset & Memory
Northbridge ATI RS400/RC400/RC410 rev. 01
Southbridge ATI SB400 rev. 80
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Frequency 266.5 MHz ()
CAS# Latency (tCL) 4.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 11 clocks
System
System Manufacturer Gateway
System Name MT3707
System S/N N1973 A10 00618
Mainboard Vendor Gateway
Mainboard Model
BIOS Vendor Phoenix
BIOS Version 83.07
BIOS Date 01/23/07
Memory SPD
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-4300 (266 MHz), 512 MBytes, Samsung
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-4300 (266 MHz), 512 MBytes, Samsung
Software
Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX Version 9.0c

 

I bought the mt 3707 and got the t2300. Spoke to people at gateway said it's
dual channel memory. Ran PC Wizard 2007 test results ram single channel. Can
anyone verify ?