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    Liquid Metal on Razer Blade 15 (2019) Questions

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by awsims33, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. awsims33

    awsims33 Newbie

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    Hey guys

    Just got my new blade and while its not my primary machine (i have a desktop too) i will be using it a fair bit especially because i travel frequently.

    My biggest concern for the Blade is the thermals and as such ive been researching the best ways to improve them.

    The Blade i have is a 2070 Max Q and in my research ive found the under volting guides but ive been reading a lot about liquid metal as well since i was going to repaste anyway.

    I bought some conductonaut from thermal grizzly and some 3m 33+ electrical tape and have watched all the guides on gamers nexus, linus, and several other sources so im comfortable with the process and the dos and donts BUT

    I have 2 main questions:

    1. Given that gamers nexus has found after 1 year in their limited test that LM was still performing fine... What are some real world numbers in terms of longevity? How often are you guys repasting with LM?

    2. Since it is a laptop i have found a few scattered comments from people online warning against moving the machines too much... That is an absolute deal breaker for me since i do travel a lot but it also seems uneducated because i cant imagine given the design of the Blade heatsink that there would be any leaking but i digress... Is this a valid concern?

    Thanks for any advice guys!
     
  2. eth3rton

    eth3rton Notebook Consultant

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    Can't speak to the first question but I don't think moving a laptop around is much of a concern, Had a Razer 15 2018 for a while and never had any issues. Great machines.
     
  3. SvenskiH

    SvenskiH Newbie

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    I have the very same blade/ graphics card and I too am on the verge of buying some LM. ive looked into this quite a bit also and there are ways to seal in the LM (nail polish/tape/foam). if you do go ahead with this post your findings here.

    @eth3rton did you use any of these methods to protect your blade? and in your opinion was it worth it temperature/OC wise to repaste with LM.
     
  4. 4W4K3

    4W4K3 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'll probably be the only one but on a new machine that you plan to travel with and rely on (in any aspect) I would say HELL no. If it's your first time using LM, and you're going for a laptop install, I'd also say HELL no. If you bought or plan to use the laptop's warranty in any conceivable manner; again HELL no. Unless you can afford to chuck this laptop in the bin and go and buy another one when it fries; HELL no.

    Could it work? Sure. Could it destroy your new PC if installed wrong? Sure. If you're willing to take that gamble; proceed.

    The alternative being buying a safe, cheap, easy 1 time install thermal paste like Noctua or Phobya that drops your temps reliably and keeps the laptop user friendly, travel safe, convenient, in-warranty, etc.
     
  5. awsims33

    awsims33 Newbie

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    Thanks for all the advice guys

    I have decided to not do LM right now. I just dont game on it enough to warrant the risks. I have full faith in myself in that i could apply it safely but since there exists a question of whether or not it could possibly seep out in transit i will just let the thing run 10 degress hotter when playing.
     
  6. Raidriar

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    I use LIquid Ultra in all my laptops. Oldest one is my M18x R2 from 2014, still on its original LM application and works beautifully. I did my razor blade pro more than a year ago, temps are amazing and I travelled overseas with that computer and had no problems. It’s worth it for laptops, the temperature reduction is incredible
     
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    SvenskiH Newbie

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    @Raidriar do you protect your chips with any of the above methods? Nail polish etc.

    I have kapton tape and the foam to keep any excess LM in place.
     
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    Raidriar ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

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    I don’t use anything, just not excessive with LM application. Galinstan is a fairly cohesive molecule, it would much rather stick to itself than go elsewhere.
     
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    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    This is true.
    It also helps if you buff a heatsink and CPU die with 1500 grit sandpaper too (just with your fingers). This makes LM easier to stick to that surface instead of run off as well (you can tell that it's *MUCH* easier to spread on a 1500 grit buffed surface than on a mirror finish polished surface).

    The main danger is sudden hard shocks combined with terrible psi pressure from a terrible fitting heatsink (of course sudden shocks are bad anyway and should be avoided).
     
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