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    Info on Hyper X 8GB and regular 8GB?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by autofans, May 9, 2011.

  1. autofans

    autofans Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Gamers,

    Does anyone have any information about the difference between stock Ram and Hyper X Ram?
    And where can I purchase them?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. JohnnyFlash

    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    For DDR3, the 4GB HyperX modules will run at 1600 9-9-9-27 and the 2GB modules will run at 1333 7-7-7-20. Standard DDR3 runs at 1333 9-9-9-27.

    It's kind of irrelevant though, because memory speed has next to no real life impact on performance. Buy whatever's cheapest.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It does have small impact on minimum frame rates, so a very serious gaming machine might want to consider it.
     
  4. airacutie

    airacutie Notebook Consultant

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    Difference I have in Windows Experience index is 7,8 (HyperX 1600 8GB) to 7,6 (stock 1333 4GB)
     
  5. garetjax

    garetjax NBR Freelance Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    Well, timings are just one of things that separates Kingston's HyperX series from the regular fare you can buy. Kingston is one of the few memory manufacturers that produce laptop RAM modules with heat spreaders on their HyperX line.
     
  6. JohnnyFlash

    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's very small, so they would have to be very serious.

    The WEI isn't exactly a great standard to compare systems or components.

    Right, but that's not really necessary unless the is going to overclock the memory. The do look nice, I'll agree to that.

    I'm not trying to be a rain cloud, but these kits cost quite a bit more, so people should be accurately aware of what to expect. That money would be much more useful put towards an SSD. There's a full article on this topic, I'll see if I can find it.
     
  7. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    This.

    You used to find "high-end" branded memory mattered, when people used to overclock desktop computers. A long time ago, you would overclock your desktop computer by overclocking the Front Side Bus (FSB). And a long time ago, there weren't separate clocks or clock dividers. If you overclocked one part of your desktop computer, you overclocked EVERYTHING.

    These days, there are separate clocks and clock dividers for each part of a desktop computer. So getting ultra-high-end memory that could withstand extreme overclocks is far less important. Plus, memory speed is pretty much irrelevant to overall computer performance. Your applications aren't going to load faster, and you won't get higher framerates if you have faster memory.

    Getting "high-end" branded memory doesn't make sense for desktop computers. And it definitely doesn't make sense for laptops. You can buy it if you want, but you'll be wasting your money. If you want to be smart about where you spend your money, take JohnnyFlash's advice and buy whatever is cheapest.
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    In some cases it can boost your minimum fps by around 10-15%.

    I'd say it would be a nice last inclusion once you got everything else sorted.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    @Meaker:

    That graph is a little misleading.

    Higher-rated memory doesn't automatically mean that it runs at a faster clock speed. It means that it is guaranteed to support higher clock speeds. You still need to overclock your memory to get to that higher speed, before you see any benefit.

    Overclocking memory is a piece of cake to do on a desktop computer (from which that graph was taken). Overclocking memory on a laptop is only possible if the laptop BIOS supports it.

    Furthermore, the one graph you have shown is one very specific example, using one datapoint (notice that the other 7 datapoints in that same graph show no benefit to faster memory, even if you did happen to be able to overclock memory on a laptop). The conclusion from the very same Anandtech article from which you got the graph states:
    "Based on today’s overall results, we have to question the validity or purchasing high-end memory for most users. "​


    I still have to say - buying high-end memory for a laptop is a waste of money.
     
  10. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

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    fwiw, I'm happy with my HyperX ram.
     
  11. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Placebo effect :)
     
  12. isavetheday

    isavetheday Notebook Consultant

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    I can't wait till Razer starts selling ram with 24k gold plating on the heat sinks. But yeah, don't bother wasting money on "the best brands" when it's the same speed as the cheap ram.
     
  13. JohnnyFlash

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    This rock keeps tigers away. :D

    I will say this: If they were the same price as standard dimms, I would buy them; they're just not worth the premium. I do have a set of HyperX DDR2 in my HDX20 (media center now), but I got them at 40% off.
     
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    But what you can change are timings, and oh look they have the same effect as memory speed.

    The conclusion was what's the point of buying high speed high cas ram when a good set of lower speed but tighter timing ram would do nicely.