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    I can't believe how third grade "MADE IN CHINA" products can be

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Nocturnal310, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=193474


    I had posted a USB hub issue...thinking all the time it was a driver issue....i tried changing the cable & voila...it was a faulty cable provided with the hub which was made in china...I mean i was breaking my head & the solution could be that i can't believe..

    So i am not blaming any of the Chinese members here .. this is a funny issue....

    Now imagine u buy a laptop & the AC adaptor is faulty..how funny & angry u ll feel at the same time right?
     
  2. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yup! I just love laughing at chinese no brand products :D some of them are a joke :p
     
  3. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    thanks man..i thought my first replier will criticize me ...and especially u being from HK..

    Are there any branded USB hubs? ..btw these days usb hubs dont come with power supply but they do have a slot..

    can anyone explain under what scenario of usage we require external source of to power USB 2.0 hubs??
     
  4. asutn90

    asutn90 Newbie

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    Not every product is perfect, everything is made in China these days, move out of the cave if I were you.
     
  5. ez2remember

    ez2remember Notebook Evangelist

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    It's no different from buying a non branded item anywhere in the world. You bought cheap so you ended with one. This is not uncommon for this to happen even before the massive Chinese production.

    It's like buying a TV! I would never trust anything unless big/great brand.

    Belkin makes good USB hubs and yes it is made in China. ;)

    People find the cheapest items and then complain they got crap. China has made prices of goods rock bottom and yet people don't want to spend a few $ more for a branded item... I don't want to sound harsh but sometimes you get what you pay for...
     
  6. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    hey hey...now u are assuming i knew branded USB hubs existed..

    You didn't read my reply:
    Re: I can't believe how third grade "MADE IN CHINA" products can be
    thanks man..i thought my first replier will criticize me ...and especially u being from HK..

    Are there any branded USB hubs? ..btw these days usb hubs dont come with power supply but they do have a slot..

    can anyone explain under what scenario of usage we require external source of to power USB 2.0 hubs??
     
  7. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    now u dont pay $10 for a can of coca cola do u ? ..its a small accesory...i spend on important stuff..like my gaming accesories
     
  8. ez2remember

    ez2remember Notebook Evangelist

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    I understand you wasn't sure about branded USB hubs but your title... Have another read. A lot of fantastic products are made in China and there are some terrible ones too. You'll find nearly everything in your household is made in China. Are most of your household goods third grade "MADE IN CHINA"?
     
  9. E.B.E.

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    Most electronics are nowadays Made in China or Made in Taiwan (which according to China is also China :D). It is not the fault of the Chinese factories, it is the fault of the firm for which they produce. If that firm requests a cheap, crappy product, the Chinese factory will oblige and make a cheap, crappy product.

    If on the other hand the firm requests a good quality product, the Chinese factory will provide it.

    It's like with notebook ODMs... for instance ASUS makes great laptops for themselves (or used to make, nowadays it's arguable) but at the same time they used to produce some entry-level crappy notebooks for Dell.
     
  10. Vizel

    Vizel Notebook Consultant

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    Move out of the cave? I would say get real. Only products that can measure up to standards are ones where huge corporation (Samsung, Mac, Dell, Toshiba, Intel) send the parts to China and have them only assemble it. And those fails too often also. When Chinese company Actually designs something by their own crappy 2nd world country technology and build it, I bet half of them are going to last 6 hrs from the purchase. (that's why they usually charge you huge price for warranty or no warranty at all)
     
  11. ez2remember

    ez2remember Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think Dell fans will be happy with that comment. lol ;)
     
  12. lokster

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    theres that joke i remember, God made the world... everything else is made in china ^^ about china products its kinda mixed opinion, both my laptops are made in china working fine, then bought this really cheap SD card and works perfect, and i got this card reader, and it burned out lol. maybe just bad production
     
  13. Vizel

    Vizel Notebook Consultant

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    And please, prove me wrong. give me a medium-large sized corporation that is Chinese originally that makes first grade products. No, SOUTH KOREA is not CHINA, JAPAN is not CHINA either, TAIWAN is not CHINA "yet" =D
     
  14. ez2remember

    ez2remember Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree there are very few Chinese companies that produce quality products but that's not the point... China is the world manufacturing plant for everyone else and can produce quality products if the firm involved request it and they are involved to ensure quality control.
     
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    Look I didn't use the word 'chinese products' which would have been more precise...but i would have sounded racist for many anti-racist members..

    I really give attention to detail when making topics..
     
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    I'll try Haier and Lenovo, the former make a lot of electrical products while the latter should be well-known to most people on this forum.
     
  17. Johnny T

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    To this day I refuse to accept HK as part of China :D Anyone who was brought up in the early 90s or before in HK would agree :p



    100% agree lol...
     
  18. onion

    onion Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    I never knowingly buy products made in china. That country has the worst quality control on the face of this earth.

    I know MANY chinese people. One of my best friends is from China and he will tell you that they simple dont care over there. They KNOWINGLY use lead paint on toys and they simply can careless. He explained to me how this is just thier life style and mentality. Make $$$ no matter what and use the crappiest supplies to do it.

    Its clealry seen here in the USA as well in Chinese take-out restaurants. Same friend has many relatives working in these places and he would NEVER eat there. The chicken and produce these Chinese people use is from the most disgusting places you can imagine. Also the way they prepare. Just like seen on the news Chinese people crushing garlic with thier boots, using meat mixed with CARDBOARD to save money for dumplings. He says it like that everywhere.

    He also explained to me that this is just Chinese culture and thier way of life. Oh, and the kicker is NONE of this relatives that work/own these take-out restaurants eat the food that they made for the public. Crazy hu?
     
  19. p00rcoll3geboi

    p00rcoll3geboi Notebook Geek

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    How is HK not part of China...HK was "lent" to the British for 100 years, but it has always been part of China. No, the people in HK would not agree with you because I have family there and they're proud and happy to be back with China
     
  20. Vizel

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    I knew someone was going to come up with those sooner or later... Well, there is the thing. Lenovo is not even Chinese technology innovated company, (I am talking about when they started international buisness, not just in China) it is U.S design and support that innovated company. All the design was decided in Hong Kong and Morrisvile, backed by IBM, and it is the US that is making money and benefiting from lenovo, not so much China. It turned in to one of those "U.S dogs" when it entered international market

    Now, Haier, I recognize, it is a communist state owned company. Not capitalist. Yes, I do see it as Chinese Company that is at least partly innovated in China (along partnership from Germany and huge copyright infringement issues from U.S and Germany counterparts, but it isn't too bad. =) But it is a state owned company. The whole Chinese government supports it, and it gives Haier significant advantage. Its like US government, CIA, NSA supporting/owning Microsoft. And now you mention, it isn't really big either nor makes the top quality products... (nevertheless thanks for mentioning Haier, I have to keep that in mind)
     
  21. Lithus

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    Well, people buying stuff in America are lucky. There's at lease some type of quality control here. You go into a big store like Best Buy and at least you know that the brand name items are actually brand name items, and basically what you see is what you get.

    Go to China, and buying stuff is an art. If you're not careful, or if you're bad at it, you're walking home with either a bag of used crap (and not the good kind of crap from Woot) or even worse, something that may be harmful to your health.

    And Onion, to address the bun/meat/cardboard food issue - that was a hoax.
     
  22. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    lol...they are probably rich people who benifits from chinese business ;) Proud...I am certainly not ''proud'' to be associated with them... obviously there are good people but most of them are greedy and just want money...
     
  23. asutn90

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    I said move out of the cave, seriously I mean it, go travel.
     
  24. lokster

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    @ onion can you tell me what country is your laptop made in by checking the box? its on the side with the specs on it. :p just curious.

    if people could start looking around their laptop to see where its made it.

    (btw i pulled out RAM on this gateway laptop its samsung made in china lol)
     
  25. Lithus

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    Just to clarify, Made In China != poor quality. A ton of stuff is made in china that are great quality, like my T-shirt, and my laptop. The poor quality comes from unscrupulous companies who don't care what they're selling.
     
  26. Rahul

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    I have never had any problems with my Chinese made laptops but my one Japanese made Fujitsu ultraportable was poorly built, very fragile, just by putting it in a bag and traveling a bit, a peice of a port cover broke off, go figure. :)
     
  27. hmmmmm

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    wow

    the ignorance

    china can't make their own product? wth?

    china launches their own manned space crafts which is more than can be said of the ESA... (who uses the american space shuttle)



    seriously, stop living under a rock

    i bet you still think shang hai is all made of huts and shacks :rolleyes:
     
  28. Lithus

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    hmmmmm, calm down, take a deep breath, and don't give yourself a heart attack.

    Given how half our stuff is made in China, gotta give them some credit.
     
  29. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, Hong Kong continues to be a Special Administrative Region in China, so it does not follow all Chinese laws, and continues to have its own economic system, currency, continues to keep English as an important language, etc.

    I was born in Hong Kong myself, and moved to Vancouver when I was young. I'm not ashamed of China ruling Hong Kong...but I would prefer Hong Kong continue its way of government and life just as it did as a British colony.

    This went off topic :p.

    EDIT: And hmmmmm, your post was extremely offensive towards Hong Kong citizens. You have been given a profile warning, please do not insult or use racist terms in the future.
     
  30. Eternal

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    Ive bought china products that where kick ass and some that sucked. Its the same with products made in the USA you just have to know what your buying witch takes time and investigation. That I phone clone is made in china and is pretty damn cool. I bought an mp3 player made in china with 2gb for $19 bucks on sale at frys, and it rocks. Same product sells for $50 with another major manufacturer.
     
  31. maxsquared

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    Well, all the dells made in China we used to get were great, but now they seem to be made in Ireland now, and we have to re screw the back on every single ones.
     
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    Do you mean that my comment was offensive to HK citizens? I don't see how, but if you do mean me, then I am sorry.
     
  33. p00rcoll3geboi

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    By the way, a few weeks ago the American toy company apologized for blaming China for all those toy recalls. They said it was actually their own design issues that caused the recall, but they wanted to avoid having their names tarnished, so they jumped on the bandwagon and started pointing their fingers at China. So don't think that if things are "made in the USA" would mean superior products. Also, don't forget about all those baby drugs that were recalled the moment the FDA said they wanted to do an inspection
     
  34. Sam

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    No, not you. It was username "hmmmmm"'s post. His has been edited so that the insulting parts have been taken out. Yours had no problem :).