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    Horrible Momentus XT

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by TANWare, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Hi,
    I am hoping this is just a bad drive but below is HD Tune. It failed on my P7805 got it running, apparently crippled, on my U81-a

    P7805 2 BSOD's mutpile freezes etc so I pulled it. I also get a high pitched squeal/ring from the drive on and off. With the U81-a it freezes as well then comes back, very strange.........

    Edit, from the original image of Win7 install I've included from the original 7K500
     
  2. Phil

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    Yeah looks like a bad drive. Time to return it.

    PS. Would be nice if you included brands in your signature. I would guess a P7805 is a Gateway and a U81 sounds like an Asus. Close?
     
  3. E30kid

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    Holy crap. You should get them to replace that immediately.
     
  4. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Got my RMA number, will ship it out tomorrow. Really wanted to see this in action. I can tell you for the short durration it did what it was supposed too it was FAST. Can't wait to get another and RAID0 them, awesome little drive. A big if here though, or so it seems for the moment, "They have to work and be dependable"

    Edit; Put the Manufacturers in, and you got me Phil............ :)
     
  5. AndroidVageta

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    Hey, you should wait til you get a good drive before leaving a 1 egg review on Newegg.com...I mean, really, you got a bad drive, no reason to leave a horrid review on something you havent fully used yet.
     
  6. Dillio187

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    why not, he got a bum drive right out of the box?
     
  7. TANWare

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    Nope, bad drive = 1 egg. When I get a good one I'll be back and I am probably getting 3 of them total too. So send me all the bad ones and 1 egg for each one they send. If it is a great drive 5 eggs for those, if they deserve it.

    Those sites are for consumers to make a decision based on reviews and ratings, a bum drive is the worst of the worst possibilties for any consumer! No matter what the performance.........

    Edit; Oh and 20 hours of usage( 4 image restores with two different images, 2 fresh OS installs and 2 storage drive attempts with two systems (one internal and one enclosure)) then getting that to run at all qualifies as more than enough usage, trust me...........
     
  8. gaah

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    a "BUM" drive also known as act of nature has nothing to do with the performance or quality of a drive, or the support you'll receive. no one wants to wade through the system to see your crappy 1 star informationless review clogging the system up. what you've experienced is to be expected.
     
  9. H.A.L. 9000

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    LOL. I defend TANware and his 1-egg decision, as that's exactly what I would have done. Done it before on several drives.
     
  10. E30kid

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    I believe that one egg reviews are a waste of space. They are useless for any consumer who is interested in the product in question.

    Disclose it in your review and dock an egg or two, but don't skew the rating scale because of a bum drive.
     
  11. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    When a customer looks at the reviews for a product, they don't care if your first one was broken. They want to know: how fast it was, how it looked, does the lid squeak, can it play MW2, etc. Not if you got a DOA. DOAs happen. Wait to rate it until you get the new SSD. You can rate Newegg on other sites that have reviews about Websites. The Egg rating s for the product, not the seller. IMHO :)
     
  12. TANWare

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    Agreed, not the seller the product, non working products get 1 egg. Is my 1 egg near DOA rating going to influence anyone, doubtfull. Was it deserved, darned tooten. bad drive = bad review, good drive = good review. Hand me 3 bad drives and get 3 bad reviews etc. If I get a good drive I'll be back to review it again.
     
  13. TANWare

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    Giving a bad drive more than one egg is skewing the scale up though. The single egg is an over all rating, non functional devices have no value, no real performance, no real convenience just nothing good about them. So it goes they are only worth 1 egg if that. Once I have a good drive I'll be back to skew the rating to where the functioning hardware should be. The ratings are not just there for functioning hardware, unless you have read some rule or stipulation that I haven't
     
  14. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    I wouldn't rate it until I got the 2nd SSD. DOAs happen sometimes.
     
  15. E30kid

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    It's not like you paid for the drive, it showed up as DOA, and Newegg just said, "that's your problem, replace it on your dollar." You filed an RMA and you got a replacement drive for free. It's not like your purchase just went down the drain.

    It's not a good practice to do this consistently. DOAs happen. Get over it. Don't skew the review scores to be worse than they should be. Take off an egg or two is legitimate, but this practice is not. If you want to rate the overall experience with one egg, go ahead, but don't enter in multiple reviews from one purchase.
     
  16. Dillio187

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    don't scew the review scores? What if there is a problem with these drives, and 20% of them show up DOA? Would you think someone on Newegg that is potentially going to buy this drive would want to know that? I sure would...

    The guy got a bad drive, it deserved a poor rating. When he receives a new drive, and it works well, he can post a new review.

    I'm amazed this is even being made an issue of.
     
  17. E30kid

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    I just don't understand the logic on this. Why should one purchase warrant more than one review?

    People on newegg are going to look at the text in the reviews themselves if they are looking at purchasing the drive. Disclose the DOAs and give it a crappy review, but I just don't understand giving multiple reviews out for the same product.
     
  18. TANWare

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    Apparently one purchase will end up being two and are sometimes three or more drives is why. It isn't a purchase but product review and that one product was defective. If you recieve more than one product item, even if you have to return it, you review that item recieved. Now since my next two are meant for Raid0 that to me qualifies as one item as they are intended to be used together. So DOA's or whatever the case they would get reviewed as one item as RAIDable.............

    Edit, and it is not free! I have to pay to ship it to them. Not including my time lost but that is my personal gamble.........
     
  19. Phil

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    Exactly my thought. DOA deserves a one star rating in my opinion.
     
  20. Syberia

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    If a product has a lot of DOAs, that is extremely useful for a customer to know. I have stayed away from certain products before for exactly that reason. If I were buying it in a physical store I wouldn't care as much, but when I have to pay to send the DOA product back in the mail, I want to do everything I can to avoid that.

    I got shipped a motherboard recently with a DOA PCI Express slot, and you can be sure the first thing I did was 1-egged it. The second thing I did was buy a different brand.
     
  21. lozanogo

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    It doesn't matter, it is an item review and as such he is entitled to give a review, no matter if good or bad.

    In any case, with a bit of thinking one can differentiate between a good 1 egg review (came broken, DOA, etc.) and a bad 1 egg review (item arrived 15 days later when they promised 14 days, etc.).
     
  22. TANWare

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    Back on topic, just shipped it out to NewEgg,. Their prepaid label is for ground shipping. Knowing the rarity of stock I imagine this will take a while.