The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Hitachi or Seagate

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by LOTL, Aug 23, 2005.

  1. LOTL

    LOTL Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Ok looking to replace a dead Fujitsu 30 gigger from this laptop im working on.
    I have narrowed it down to this 40GB Hitachi at Newegg for $75.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822146041

    or this Seagate Momentus 60GB at Newegg for $115 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822146217

    Both drives are 5400 RPM w/8MB cache. While noise and temps may differ somewhat, it almost comes down to price and warranty.
    If im looking to save a $40 bucks and lose the 20GB storage and 2 years warranty go with the Hitachi.
    Otherwise go Seagate.

    Make sense to everyone else?
     
  2. sdaigneault

    sdaigneault Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    209
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i think the common wisdom is that seagate's are the drives to go with
     
  3. kitsune

    kitsune Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    64
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    31
    yes, seagates are great, there built to last! I have a hard drive from 1985 that has 40 megabytes and it still runs very very well, and it was made by Seagate. The thing is as old as I am...
     
  4. bootleg2go

    bootleg2go Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    99
    Messages:
    1,230
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I would have to disagree,
    After working in the hard drive industry for the last 15 years, there is no doubt that Hitachi/IBM notebook drives are far better than anything else out there for reliability and in most cases performance as well.

    Jack
     
  5. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    22,339
    Messages:
    36,639
    Likes Received:
    5,080
    Trophy Points:
    931
    True true. I agree with you. Segate makes a decent hard drive, but Hitachi makes a better one. I have a 100GB 5400RPM Hitachi Travelstar in my notebook, and I love it - has an 8meg cache, which makes data transfers a snap, and is very quiet. I definitely recommend IBM/Hitachi.
     
  6. LOTL

    LOTL Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Thank you all for your replies. I have never bought a notebook HDD before but have purchased and installed a lot of Desktop HDD's. Just finished building my new rig using 2 Seagate NCQ 200GB's. Used to use mostly WD's and Maxtor's and some IBM's. Probably have seen the most failures with IBM's and Maxtor's.
    I take it the 2.5" HDD's are a whole new ballgame and while one HDD manufacturer may produce better 3.5" HDD's it doesn't necessarily carry over into the 2.5" HDD market.
    Im leaning towards the Seagate due to the 5 year warranty, but knowing the user he wont need or use the extra 20gb, and by the time the 3 years is up he will be needing a newer notebook anyways. Decisions decisions.
     
  7. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    4,982
    Messages:
    34,001
    Likes Received:
    1,415
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Personally would lean towards Hitachi.
     
  8. LOTL

    LOTL Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hitachi it is! Thanks again for the push.
     
  9. Dustin Sklavos

    Dustin Sklavos Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,892
    Messages:
    1,595
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I'd've gone with the Seagate. If you go to www.storagereview.com, you'll note that Hitachis rank much lower in reliability than Seagates do, which are near the top. Note that the figures are actual users and their reports on their hard disks.

    I'd never buy a Hitachi, personally. Seagate all the way.
     
  10. tttttada

    tttttada Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    146
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Seagates run hotter and Hitachis produce more noise.
     
  11. Brando551

    Brando551 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    6
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Hmmm, You wouldn't happen to be working FOR Hitachi now would you? :p
     
  12. Miya

    Miya Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I would have to say Seagate :)

    IBM/HGST have bigger problems than you all may think...

    my order:-

    Reliability

    1 Seagate 3 1/2 inch and 2 1/3 PATA/SATA/SCSI
    2 Samsung 3 1/2 inch and 2 1/3 !
    3 HGST/Hitachi
    4 WD
    5 Maxtor , however , I would rate Maxtor SCSI at #2

    Maxtor ATA HDD's should be left alone at all costs. Terrible design!
     
  13. dragonrage

    dragonrage Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    9
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Holy thread revival batman!

    Seagate never used to represent quality. I think they have gotten better recently indeed. But Hitachi's newer drives have little to do with the old IBM Deathstars that might be steering you guys away. I tend to avoid Seagate because their SCSI sucks and was always failing at work. They generally replaced those pieces of crap with Fujitsu SCSI (which I use in my desktop) and they were great. In my eyes, if Seagate can't make a reliable enterprise drive (these were U320 10KRPM drives, not too old, for the record) then they can't make a reliable desktop drive.
     
  14. vespoli

    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,134
    Messages:
    3,401
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    moving to hardware...
     
  15. matt.modica

    matt.modica Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    7
    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Seagates have a nice warranty, but they can be noisy. With that said, my ancient 80 GB 4200 RPM drive that I use in my Aspire is still kicking, and has not given me any problems.
     
  16. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    454
    Messages:
    6,802
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    231


    I once had a temp job at seagate. And I agree with you.
    This was over 10 years ago when they were almost out of business... in scotts valley ca.
    This has to do with the way asian holding companies work. Hitachi owns the rights to bring the best stuff to market.
    Neither of these companies are fabricators you have to understand. Hitachi owns the rights to the best stuff. If any of these seagate drives were better hitachi would have bought them and borught them to the market.

    Thats why youre about to see a hitachi 200 gb 7200 rpm drive and a seagate 160 gb 7200 rpm drive. Seagate will rarely be able to beat hitachi to the market with anyting.
    And if for some reason you think their drives are worth waiting for, some name brand or marketing thing has confused you, keep in mind they are being churned out of the same factories. After the factory makes the amount it owes hitachi, it can sell seagate the same thing but with noise reduction or something along those lines to give them a chance to reach the market.
     
  17. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

    Reputations:
    285
    Messages:
    2,834
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
  18. dragonrage

    dragonrage Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    9
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    MAU is a generation old, I wouldn't buy it since MAX is available (even though the specs are pretty much the same). But MAU is still great, if you find a good price. I guess the unit price on that 20 pack isn't bad, but the overall price is a little steep :D
     
  19. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

    Reputations:
    285
    Messages:
    2,834
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yea, i was joking. At $950 a pop they could at least send ya a free laptop after every order ;)