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    Core Duo Undervolting Guide?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by usapatriot, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I swear there was one but I cant find it. I searched abd everything!

    Help!

    Also what would be a good program to undervolt with?

    Thanks!
     
  2. chuchutrain

    chuchutrain Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    hey. running a z96j core duo undervolted. notebook hardware control works well for me.
     
  3. solag3

    solag3 Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm ive bin looking for some thing that will under vote my core duo but i dont realy like NHC that much dont now why just dont -_-
     
  4. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Can you please tell me the settings you have?
     
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    chuchutrain Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    hey there!

    6 and 7 are both .9750
    8 is .9875
    9 is 1.0125
    10 is 1.1375
    11 is 1.1625
    12 is 1.1875

    they're a little high. but it's froze here and there and so i upped them to make sure.

    i'd use the other one. but this works better on my z96j
     
  6. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    thx :).....
     
  7. rockharder

    rockharder Notebook Evangelist

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    Generally, fewer undervolt requiremnet from Core Duo vs. Turion. Because most BIOS and MOBO maker handle Core Duo pretty well so you won't get so much gain in term of battery life.

    RMClock works for lot of CPUs.
     
  8. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I've been running a T2300 with max voltage of 1.05V (two steps above where instability started) using RM Clock for about 6 months with no problems. I'm annoyed that I can't drop the minimum voltage below 0.95V. This seems to have been nailed down by Intel.

    John
     
  9. icsantos

    icsantos Notebook Guru

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    Someone write an "Undervolting a Core Duo for Dummies" step-by-step guide, please! Thank you.
     
  10. Gator

    Gator Go Gators!

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    I use RMClock usapatriot, have a look:

    (notice .987V is the highest I go on the 12x and 11x multipliers)
     
  11. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I'll see what I can do over the next few days to bring together and update what is scattered around other threads.

    John
     
  12. icsantos

    icsantos Notebook Guru

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    That would be awesome! Thank you very much. By the way, I wasn't kidding about the "for dummies" part.
     
  13. DTX

    DTX Notebook Evangelist

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    How do I modify the VID in that picture? I only have VID of 1.25 for my T7200!

    Yes please, a guide to undervolting a Core Duo!
     
  14. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    To change a VID in RMclock, go to the Profile main page then click on one of the index entries. See the attached. I just change the bottom entry and let RMclock auto-adjust the other voltages.

    Work has so far got in the way of me putting together an undervolting guide. I got as far as digging out other forum threads discussing the subject. They are:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=105278&highlight=Undervolt+RMClock

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=113653&highlight=RMClock

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=18089&highlight=RMClock

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=113653&highlight=RMClock

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=39485&highlight=RMClock

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60914

    Hope this helps (if you are using RMclock).

    John
     

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    DTX Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey John, thank you for the links to the guide.

    I have set my maximum multiplier of 12x to a value under 1.25v. However, when I click on the general tab to see if the setting have been recorded/set successfully, under "Maximal", I still get 12x = 1.25v, while the rest are set to the lowest = 0.95v.

    Am I doing anything wrong here?


    Thanks for the help!
     
  16. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    On the Maximal Performance page have you selected use P state transitions and then selected all the index values?

    On the main profiles page you also need to have selected Maximal Performance as the profile to use.

    Personally, I have everything set to performance on demand.

    If you still can't figure it out, I suggest you attach a screen dump of the problematic RMclock screens so I can see what is showing up.

    John
     
  17. DTX

    DTX Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi John, yes, I have selected that, as well as for Performance On Demand.

    Along with Performance On Demand as well?

    Here are screen dumps of my settings:

    [​IMG]

    First box shows 12x = 1.25volts!

    Thanks!
     
  18. ejl

    ejl fudge

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    what have you set your profile to?
     
  19. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    1. The Maximal column in the first box shows the design maximum voltage of the CPU (each CPU is individually set in the factory - my T7200 says 1.187V.

    2. So what is the CPU actually doing? It seems to be running at 6x (1GHz) at 1.0V, which doesn't make sense to me.

    3. If you want maximal performance to be continuously running at 12x then on the maximal performance page select the 12x only and nothing else (maybe this is what you have done, but the 6x is out of the top of the scroll box). when I select the 12x only then the CPU runs continuously at full speed.

    4. You have selected the Performance on Demand profile when running on battery. However, you have not set up the battery version of this profile (each profile has a separate mains and battery column).

    5. Take a look at the monitoring graphs. These should show what the CPU is doing. Try the Performance on Demand profile and see how the speed goes up and down according to activity.

    BTW, RMclock is now at V2.25.
    John
     

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  20. DTX

    DTX Notebook Evangelist

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    To put it simply, I need to:

    Find the lowest stable VID at the lowest multiplier

    AND

    Finf the lowest stable VID at the highest multiplier

    Is that correct? If it is correct, why do we need to find the lowest VID for the highest multiplier? Wouldnt the lowest VID with lowest multiplier be enough?
     
  21. miner

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    Yes, to both questions in general. But Intel has blocked lowering the VID with the lowest multiplier. So @ 6x multi(1.0GHz) you wont be able to decrease the VID from the default 0.95V. Actually 0.95V is the lowest you can probably go with any multiplier. So, your only options are to change the VID on the higher multipliers which doesnt help in extending battery life but will reduce the heat output when running at full power.
     
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    Thank you for the reponses! Looks like the lowest I can go is 0.987, as 0.975 gives errors in Prime95. So 1.000 volt looks good!