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    Can I delete 100Mb System Parition? + Calibration Error?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Zeptinune, Mar 3, 2011.

  1. Zeptinune

    Zeptinune Notebook Evangelist

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    I have this:

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    I want to know if I can delete this partition now that I have installed my OS and everything. I don't have any sort of information that my computer needs to operate on there do I?

    The reason why I want to remove it is that I have to delete all partitions to run a 'write' test on HD Tune Pro. Also I would just prefer to have no partitions on this machine.

    Also, HD Tune Pro says on (0B) Calibration Retry Count - Number of calibration attempts after failure: 207 - There were calibration errors!
    It's giving me a 'warning' for health status. What does this mean?

    Is my hard drive healthy?

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    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    google sure tells you a way to remove the partition. but it's a nice partition, essentially have a fully bootable resque environment when your os messes up somehow. i used it on occasion when the os got non-bootable, and it's really handy to not have to find a windows cd for those moments.

    other than that, google sure knows.
     
  3. kent1146

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    (1) That partition contains data used by Windows if you ever boot into Recovery Mode.

    (2) You cannot delete that partition through re-partitioning tools, since it doesn't use standard partition / sector sizing. The only safe way to remove it is to re-install Windows, and make sure that it never gets created to begin with.

    (3) Unless you have a very specific reason to delete it (besides an obsessive-compulsive urge to keep your machine as clean and pristine as possible), leave it alone.
     
  4. Zeptinune

    Zeptinune Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok well stupid Windows 7 made the partition regardless when I installed the computer. In fact I cant think of a single time where it hasn't made a second 100mb partition for the install. It says on the install that it may create another partition to 'ensure the success' of the installation. Damn it...

    I'll leave it alone. I'm very happy with how my computer is behaving. I'll buy a 7200 rpm drive soon but I still want this installation to work beautifully.

    As for the calibration error it's a massive problem google says. It says that my disc cant align the heads properly at spin-up and that my HDD is very close to failing. This is a real bummer...
     
  5. OneCool

    OneCool I AM NUMBER 67

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    lmao... sounds like your talking about me :D
     
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    lookit all the words being spent over 100Mb out of 500Gb........
     
  7. shakennstirred

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    i have installed win 7 64bit a few times and never had that partition
    so its cant be needed once win 7 has installed
     
  8. Zeptinune

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    To be honest I'd say he's talking about 90% of us. Who wants to leave their computer to chance, everyone wants to know it's running the best way it can. Well something tells me even if I do delete it that I wont be able to add it back into the other 465Gb partition and that it'll just stay as stupid RAW space which means nothing changes...

    I'll just leave it alone, on top of that I'll get a new HDD for 62€ or something from tietokonekauppa.fi or something.

    Thanks for the help guys.

    But yeah, I can't remember an installation of Win7 I've ever done that didn't automatically create a new partition that is 100mbs to 'ensure success' blah bla. Maybe it detects that my drive is on the way out and does this, maybe all of the drives I used were on the way out..

    Who knows.
     
  9. maximinimaus

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    If you partition your HDD prior windows installation and tell Setup to use the created partition, then no 100 MB partitition is created.
     
  10. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

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    I've just got to point this out. If Win7 is stupid, how can you also be happy with it at the same time. The partition is there for a reason, AND... it's less than 1% of your HDD space. It's beyond miniscule.
     
  11. Hayte

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    I actually managed to remove this 100mb system partition but I forgot how. It is not easy nor is it intuitive but I'll try to retrace my steps. However I'd like to assure you that it is possible.

    The reason I needed to do it was because I needed to secure erase the drive, and the secure erase would not work as long as there was allocated space on the disk or it was partitioned.

    You will need this 100mb system partition for your computer to boot. If you install Windows 7 with multiple drives connected, it will install the system partition only on the primary disk. This means that if you then install Windows 7 on another disk and remove the primary disk, your computer won't boot. I found this out the hard way and then had to reinstall Windows 7 again.
     
  12. Espada

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    when it partitions itself out with 100mb from your main. in advance options when installing os delete your main click on the 100mb and extend it. Your whole drive will come out as system restored and you wont have that 100mb partition anymore. thats what i do with all wndows 7 installs i dont like that my comp is partitioned the way i dont want it to.
     
  13. Zeptinune

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    Really I don't need a lecture mate. I think it's sort of stupid to have important hoot files on another partition of your drive. Even if M$ thinks it's a fantastic idea. I'm happy with how my computer runs, I am not happy with how it is set up. If that doesn't make sense then I'd advise you not to worry about it ok. Honestly you're just wasting your time. I've been through tons of issues before with 'NTLDR.dll is missing' due to Windows splitting my OS. This isn't a case of an 'ignorant' computer user who blames M$ and his machine for everything. Especially when I answered my own question.

    Thanks a ton mate. That is exactly what I needed to know for future installs. It seems that this happens to some people. I had the whole hard drive as RAW before I installed the OS. It made a 100mb partition itself when I went into the advanced options. Not to mention telling me that it 'may' make an additional one on top of the drive I plan to install to. I deleted it and well obviously it made another one...

    Either way I'll keep this in mind for the future. :)
     
  14. davepermen

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    you think it's sort of stupid? what if your partition has some errors? (which happened quite regularly on xp). how do you get to your system restore files?

    exactly: by having it on ANOTHER partition.

    so your ideology does not make sense. it's like having the recovery cd right on your system, in an own, safe partition, which you can't affect by messing around with your default system partition at all.
     
  15. HTWingNut

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    lolwut? It has to exist. Windows 7 won't install or run without it unless you do the special dance to install without it.
     
  16. Zeptinune

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    At the cost of NTLDR errors and other issues.. I know this. But it's my computer if I delete that partition it should stay deleted. Enough said. Regardless of the risks involved. Even if having the data on a non-mounted partition is slightly safer. I get the point though :) it's a shame I cant run the HD Tune write tests though :( I'll just wait till I get a new HDD.
     
  17. davepermen

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    You know that a 100mb partition on a 500000mb disk doesn't matter, right? It can safe you, and takes away 0.02% of your storage for it.
    Your disk test issues are unrelated to this btw. Most likely piratebay issues.
     
  18. OneCool

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    I have read that in most cases people turn off System Restore while using SSD's so keeping that 100mb partition is a good thing to help recover is something "goes wrong".

    I have always turned off system restore even with standard hard drives and to have this little back up partition is good thing in case you have one those just happened moments ;)
     
  19. chimpanzee

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    it is just for convenience. just have a USB booted Windows 7 installation media around and you don't need that boot partition. But 100MB is to small to bother for deleting.

    BTW, the main reason it is seperated is not for restoration but bitlocker.

    edit:
    I meant you don't need that one if you tell Windows 7 not to create that in the first place but if it is already there, DON'T TOUCH IT as that is where it starts the boot sequence.
     
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    Just don't delete it, period. It's there for a reason, consumes little disk space, and doesn't hurt anything.
     
  21. James D

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    Well guys if he wants then he can :) I will never try to delete it even If I knew how. I suspect Paragon Partition Manager will easily extend C drive on that pure 100MB however why would I? Besides maybe I am wrong but I thought that that 100MB partition i used somehow for faster Windows boot.

    Now about the reason why I came here. I have the same warning in HD tune. My count of (0B) is 155.

    BTW. If you will get seagate HDD I suggest you to use quiethdd free tiny program. You can find it and about it in Google.
     
  22. eumyang

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    Bad idea or not, I don't even have the 100MB system partition on either my laptop or desktop. I partition my hard drive with the Slackware Linux install DVD, before installing Windows 7. The laptop has a single, 80GB Intel SSD (G2). The desktop has two hard drives. The OS and programs go to my 80GB WD Velociraptor (yes, 80GB), and the data goes to my WD 1.5TB Caviar Black. I haven't had any problems with not having a 100MB system partition on either system. Yes, partitioning beforehand in Linux may sound silly, but I'm quite particular as to how to partition my hard drives. :rolleyes:
     
  23. chimpanzee

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    Based on what I saw, Windows 7 would only do the dual partition thing if it doesn't see any partition before(space wise) your chosen partition. i have a vendor restoration partition(10G) so my Windows 7 is also single partition.
     
  24. Zeptinune

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    Well I since bought a new computer and I have changed my drives around. I did what another long-time user suggested in a Hitachi thread and my computer is now blisteringly fast. Thanks for all of your input though :)