Athlon 64 Vs Intel Duo

I had a sales rep tell me that the Athlon 64 out performed the Duo can anyone point me towards some articles about this or give me their thoughts?

Thanks

 

They are pretty close by in terms of performance the A64 X2 has some advantages over the Core Duo in some apps and vice versa.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2648&p=6
But the X2's arent really built to be used in a laptop.

The single core Athlon64's will most probably be a tad slower than a comparable Core Duo.

 

look at http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1831396,00.asp
Done on Desktop PC's.
The TravelMate 8204WLMI (2GHz Duo or T2500) got 231 SYsmarks.
From the Athlon 4800+ (x2) in Pcmark it got 6679 while the Travelmate 8204 got 4236. the 4800 was only got a third more points.
A HUGE amount of preformace in the Duo. Its a laptop chip which can compeate with Desktop chips.

 

That is what i figured ... he was saying the Athlon 64 was better than the duo in the laptops and I had a hard time with that.

Any idea when the x2 will be out for laptops?

 

The dual core Turions are expected to be released on May 9th. These should be the AMD equivalent of the Core Duo. They havent released much info on these so performance difference will be known only when they release the processors.

For now the Core Duo is the only option if you want a dual core in a laptop. There is a laptop based on the A64 X2, but they are impractical and too heavy to be called a laptop.

 

but when will we be able to buy laptops with turion x2 ?
cause that's what's important

 

The battery life, I predict would be dismal.

 

May 9th ... not to long from now. I can wait, I can wait!

 

Most probably late May, early June. MSI has some roadmaps with the Turin x2's to be released in May, so the other manufacturers shouldnt be too far behind.

 

Faster? Maybe. Better? Possably not.

Putting a desktop processor into a laptop will yeald a faster machine yes. But heat issues have arose by doing this, athlon64s have always ran relitively hot. Putting a dual core athlon 64 would probably double this problem. Expect to burn yourself with a laptop like that.

Second, battery life WILL be pretty ****py with a processor designed to suck voltage like dirt devil.

So I'd recomend a mobile oriented processor (like the duo) over a desktop processor unless you're using it for the highest of elite applications and games and you dont expect to ever use it without being plugged to a wall.

 

The Turion x2's battery life, I think will be comparable to the turion ML series, just my guess.

 

From several reviews of atlon 64 x2 laptops, i hear that the cpu doesnt get too hot, but rather the GPU, which is normally a 7800GTX. Although still, those processors suck like 60 soemthing watts i think, whereas the turion 64 x2 MT 42 is only 25, i forget the clock speed and which athlon 64 x2 its comparable to however...

 

My big dig is that I have always had AMD processors. I was a software tester for a hardware mfg back in the late 90's and that was when the AMD Vs. Intel, (Good Vs. Evil) battle was just starting to rage. Netscape was the superior web browser and everyone in the industry simply hated Microsoft. Ahhh ... the good old days. Anyhow, my point is that I have used both AMD & Intel over the years and have always found the AMD processor better and more responsive.

I know AMD is pretty inovative when it comes to their designs, and would expect they have the heat issues with the X2 under control. (I hope).

If not, I just might have to take a big gulp of pride and consider the Duo. Oh, what a sad day.

 

Heat Issues with the Athlon64's are non existent IMO. Athlon XP's had overheating problems, A64's run as cool as any desktop processor can get. I use one daily and the averages around 35C - 40C ofcourse with one fan running always.

I agree its not a good 'mobile' laptop processor but it has its uses especially in 6 - 7lb DTR's.

 

i agree with you
i've always liked AMD too
my desktops have ALWAYS had AMD.
we just have to admit, that on the laptop side, intel is ahead
just give in, and get superior performance (merom is gonna be amazing!)

 

The Turions are rather highly tuned for the mobile market. It is basically an Athlon 64, but some things have been moved around and otherwise optimised for power. According to this article http://www.silentpcreview.com/article300-page1.html the power/heat space is pretty much neck and neck for the last generation P-M vs Turion. The Turion X2 still won't be 65 nm like the Core Duo is, so the X2 may suck a bit more power - we won't know until they're released.

Intel has a jump in release dates and momentum, but I think AMD's offering is quite competative. That and AMD really has the better system for multiple cores with communication handled on chip instead of the FSB and with an integrated memory controller to boot. The real bottom line for the savey user, in my opinion, will be price and availability. The real winners are us, with such excellent choices

 

Its May the 9th their being released and still no reliable benchmarks.. Either preformace is dismal or ...
Yes it will suck alot more power due to the larger size, shame.
Basicly from the general census is that its going to be a turion that can multitask and have (DDR2 ?) support. Nothing more.

 

I think that the Turion could be a really good thing when it comes out, personally if I could have waited another 6 months before getting a laptop I would definately have waited for it, while the Core Duo MAY be slightly faster or slightly better for power consumption (and I'm assuming that the Turion will be pretty close, which may be a bad assumption) the Turion is true 64 bit which definately makes future compatability less of an issue.

Now, having said that, it does depend what configurations I could get it in, I don't want a 10lb 17inch beast of a laptop (personally) so I'd only have gotten a Turion if I can get it in a laptop that fills my other requirements.