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    Arrandales vs current dual cores

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by laststop311, May 27, 2009.

  1. laststop311

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    Any insider information on what kind of performance increases we can expect from the current gen of dual cores. I know these will be 32nm with a 45nm integrated graphics on the chip which im guessing can be turned on or off depending if you are gaming or not to conserve battery life. Does anyone know what clock speeds it will be comming out at? Will it be using the QPI instead of the FSB I'm guessing yes. I'm hoping it comes out with 3+ghz clock speed since its 32nm and is supposed to consume either 35-45 watts because of integrated gaphics which is low considering it has graphics on chip. So what info is out there?
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Considering current Nehalems are lower clocked than their Core 2 counterparts, I doubt you will get those clock speeds initially. Plus, most users will not notice any performance benefit unless they are doing something (multi) CPU intensive, in which case, the lowest end quad core would easily destory any dual core. Not sure if the first dual core parts will come in 45nm either. Also, you probably won't be able to turn off the integrated graphics.
     
  3. laststop311

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    so they way you describe it. Intel is going to release a chip that is slower than the previous generation and with integrated graphics shoved down your throat and you cant use a discrete graphics card? Good luck on that chip surviving.
     
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    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Clock speed isn't all - its also how much is computed in every step.

    Onboard graphcis are no problem - possibly even good - you can have dual graphics cards - no problem at all - so if you want a discreete graphics card, just add it, shouldn't cause problems.
     
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    For a business laptop that only does office work, I think the slower clockspeeds will be greeted with open arms if it means significantly better battery life due to the new architecture.
     
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    Intel is obviously not going to release a slower chip. Nehalem gets more done in each clock cycle so even if it is rated at a lower GHz than current chips, it will still be a more powerful chip.

    The graphics that you can "turn off" are the dedicated graphics cards that are added onto the motherboard to provide more powerful graphics capability. When you "turn it off" you revert to the integrated graphics chip which is less powerful and consumes less battery.
     
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    OP, I don't think you realize that clock speeds are not an accurate comparison to be used to gauge the processing power of two CPUs from different generations (and different architectures).

    For example, before multi-core processors were released, Intel made Pentium 4 processors that ran at up to 3.6GHz stock. Even some of the slower Core 2 Duos today (2GHz or even lower) would easily trounce these P4 processors, despite the fact that they are of a much lower clock speed. Similarly, a 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo would significantly outperform a 2.0GHz Core Duo, and a Arrandale of the same clock speed as a current Montevina processor would likely be a fair bit faster.