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    Anyone tried a SATA II Hd in a Cooler Master X-Craft 350 enclosure?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Sredni Vashtar, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. Sredni Vashtar

    Sredni Vashtar Notebook Evangelist

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    hi there,
    I just bought a SATA II drive and a Cooler Master X-craft 350 lite (RX-3SI) enclosure. The X-craft came without the thermal pad and with a dead ppower supply (nice quality control CM :-/) and I'm getting it back.
    Before buying another one, I would like to be sure to get one that actually works with SATA II (3.0 gbps) drives.

    On the xcraft box I read
    " SATA specification 1.0 (1.5 Gbps), SATA II and eSATA compliant (hot plug is supported). Transfer rates up to 480 Mbps w/ USB2.0 and SATA trasfer rates up to 150 Mbps w/SATA or up to 300 Mbps w/SATA II"​

    (BTW: 150 and 300 *Mbps*???)

    I take it that to afford the transfer rate of a SATAII disk, it has to support SATA II disks, right?
    In the site's FAQ the product is said to support a WD SATA II drive, but I'm wondering: should I use the jumper to set it to 1.5 Gbps? That would be a problem because my Samsung Hd502LJ does not have a jumper to 'step it down' (I discovered that only after receiving it).

    And then, CM tech support did not answer (yet?), nor did anyone on the coolermaster forum. I think I will dump CM for good, I do not like to buy from dead customer departments, but I'm still curious: is the alleged SATA II support a bunch of bull?

    Anyone has a CM enclosure working with full SATA II HD?
     
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  2. Michel.K

    Michel.K 167WAISIQ

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    it doesn't matter. Any SATA II harddrive will fit into anything that's only SATA I no matter what anyone says, backwards compatibility.


    And it states even clearly where you have quoted that it supports up to SATA -II! :)


    I'm using a SATA II hdd in my laptop which only has SATA I.

    Only differences is that the speed limit is higher with SATA II, nothing else is changed, so SATA I goes into SATA II and vice versa. But no hard drives today can even reach the limit of SATA I.
     
  3. Sredni Vashtar

    Sredni Vashtar Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for your prompt answer!
    Yep, that's what I thought and then I found on the web people that said they had to set the jumper on their disk to 1.5Gbps mode in order to have them work with their mobos.

    So it seems, even if the values are off by a factor 10.
    Problem is that on this single product I've experienced shortcomings in production quality control (a missing part, the pad), in the parts supplied (a dead power supply) and so I figured: maybe they were not so clever when stating product's features, too...

    I've heard that most SATAII disks have jumpers and they always come with the jumpers set to 1.5 Gbps mode.
    Are you sure yours is not set that way?

    Thanks.
     
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    My jumper on my harddrive is removed (by me) with purpose, however even if i still ha the jumper on, the harddrive is still a SATAII harddrive.
    And all harddrives should be able to switch between 1.5Gbit/s and 3.0Gbit/s one or another way, so you should be safe. Some do it via jumpers some via software.


    Which values are off by 10? You mean 1.5Gbit/s and 3.0Gbit/s ? 1.5Gbit/s equals 150MByte/s and 3.0Gbit/s equals 300MByte/s, bits and bytes are total different things and are differs by ~10 you can say :p
     
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    chuck232 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I'm using a SATA 3.0Gb/s drive (Seagate 7200.10) in my X-Craft 350 without any issues. It's been chugging along for nearly two years now.
     
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    Sure, but it will offer a different inferface to the host system. Otherwise, what's the point of having a jumper?

    I'll have to check Samsung's website, at this point. :)

    On the box it says: "SATA trasfer rates up to 150 Mbps w/SATA or up to 300 Mbps w/SATA II"

    Either that is MBps or the numerical values are off by a factor ten.
    Should read 1500 Mbps....
     
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    Sredni Vashtar Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you have a e-sata interface?
    What is the maximum speed you managed to achieve?

    Thanks for your answer, btw.
     
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    The jumpers are there for to be used with very old motherboards which has early SATA-chipsets, those from like 2003 or when SATA came on the first motherboards, newer SATA I interface does not have a problem with either. So the jumper is there just in case you have a very old SATA-chipset. And your case states SATA II anyhow, so.



    It should say MBps as you say, some are very bad at putting out correctly because the difference between b (bit) and B (byte). So it's nothing more than a grammar error.



    The speed through eSATA should be as what any internal harddrive can achieve at it's most. Only when you're using really fast SSD which can do over 150MB/s, then you have to worry about speed being an issue on SATA I controllers.

    So any HDD will have max speed on any SATA-controller as they can't even reach the limit of SATA I. So don't worry about eSATA Performance, it will be what the harddrive can achieve internal in a system.
     
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    Ok, that's the ticket. :)
    Thanks for clarifying this to me.

    Cheers.
     
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    No problem, glad to help!
     
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    Yeah, I tested it out a while ago. In fact I wrote a review for NBR:

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3731

    Long story short, I got ~53MB/s sequential transfers with it attached through eSATA, versus 55MB/s for the 7200.10 as an internal SATA drive.

    Enjoy. :)