Am i the only one who does not like LED screens?

I notice that most people here seem to love LED screens and think of it as a bonus. I've owned 3 laptops with a LED screen and I don't like it so much. Ok it's nice that they are bright and energy efficient but I want maximum contrast and vibrant colors.

The Sony TZ90 was an exception, it had a fantastic screen, propably the best laptop screen I've seen. Amazing colors.

But the Sony SZ and Macbook Air did not really impress me. The colors were kind of faint, instead of vibrant. The whites were a bit grayish, unless I set the brightness very high, causing the other colors to go unnatural. The vertical viewing angel was very narrow.

When I put those 2 laptops next to my HP W2207 glossy LCD they fell short. Contrast and vibrance on the HP was higher.

Now I was wondering, am I the only one who thinks this way about LED screens or maybe the 13,3" LED screens in those laptops are not that good?

PS. and yes I've done all possible playing around with settings, calibration and drivers.

 

Yes, you are the only one

LED technology is like SSD technology to conventional hard drives, it's essentially better in all aspects but more expensive. LED is only the backlight though and another factor could be the type of panel?

http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9078218&intsrc=hm_list

http://hackedgadgets.com/2007/02/18/lcd-monitor-backlight-to-led-conversion/

 

Maybe the LEDs you had weren't good, but there are people on the DELL forum that posted differences between screens and the LED was awesome...

 

the LED backlighting doesn't change the LCD panel tech... its literally just a replacement of the CCFL backlighting to LED.

you will still need a good LCD screen to get a good picture. a cheap LCD with LED instead of CCFL is still going to be cheap.

other than that, apple and sony usually have high quality displays, so i don't know about your specific issues there. but in general, LED is a lot more even and bright and less power hungry than CCFL. the only real downside is that its more expensive. LED backlighting, again, does not have any effect on vibrance or color quality.

its possible that the additional cost of LED backlighting might have driven the manufacturers of the specific screens you had trouble with to cut costs in other areas, lowering the LCD quality, but thats just speculation, i really have no idea.

 

masterchef341 brought up good points, your issue is less with the LED but more with the overall quality of the screens.

And to answer your original question yes you are the only one.

 

LED technology also doesn't contain mercury. Which is a good thing.

 

i know i love my LCD screen... very bright and easy to see...

i have no complaints

 

Sorry BigO but LED is LCD so not sure what you are saying?

 

Big O means he loves his ccfl lcd screen. Sometimes people make mistakes, but it is very easy to make this one. It is very understandable PP.

I love my ccfl backlit screens. I have never actually seen a led backlit laptop but I know that most of mine use the samsung and Lg high quality panels and they are all great

K-TRON

 

^^^ I like mercury.

 

Yeah me too, that's what I meant to say. I've seen several ccfl that look better than the 13,3" LED's I've seen.

LED is as a too bright white light behind the screen which brings down the vibrance of the colors.

I just found more people that see similar things... hurray

(CR has ccfl)

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3488942#post3488942

 

Count me among those waiting to be convinced.

Disclaimer: I've ordered a M1530 with the LED screen and am waiting for it to arrive.

I have seen very little discussion on the black levels for LED screens. The few I've seen have bothered me a bit in this regard, with very poor black levels. The contrast ratios remain high, but more because of brighter whites rather than darker blacks.

 

And this is your conclusion without ever working on a LED screen?

Well after owning three of these screens my conclusion is that they lag behind in contrast compared to high quality ccfl screens.
Except for the Sony 11,1" that was equal in contrast.

I'm not surprised that you won't hear many owners say that because they still want to justify their purchase.

 

And what exactly makes you think I've never worked on an LED screen?

If you have black level numbers to cite, please cite them.

 

Well my MBP has darker blacks than an Asus z96j while also being 50% brighter

 

the LED screen on my 2710p is awesome.

the LED screen from a tiny asus of my friend is very bad.

but it's not the LED's fault.

btw, all my rooms are completely and only LED lit at home. great relaxing light.

 

Because you said "Count me among those waiting to be convinced." and that you just ordered a M1530.
So I assumed it with a question mark. So you could confirm or not.

I think I know what may be going on here. The 13,3" LEDs in Macbook Air and Sony SZ may be the same one. And I don't like that one.

My friend has a Macbook Pro so I wil have a closer look at his.

Is that the 11,1"?

 

LEDs vs CCFLs have very little to do with picture quality. You are talking about the LCD panel itself, not the backlight. You are talking about LCD comparisons, not CCFLs vs LEDs

That said, I prefer LED LCDs on my notebooks. After repairing several CCFL setups (2+ hours each), I could care less if those aggravating bulbs fall of the face of the earth. Do you know how hard it is to unsolder a bad bulb, solder in a new one, and not damage the LCD during the repair? FREAKING IMPOSSIBLE! Do you know how much the manufacturer wants to repair it? 500 DOLLARS!

No, CCFLs have no place in mobile systems anymore. They are antiquated, toxic, power-wasting, prone to failure, lead to uneven lighting, lose brightness with age, and are all-around infuriating to work with. They need to be obliterated and erased from my memory.

You are talking about LCDs vs LCDs, not CCFLs vs LEDs. Brightness can be very easily changed on either a CCFL or LED.

 

I grok your point, but you make it inelegantly. What you really want are deeper blacks but it's all a series of tradeoffs. Quite frankly LCD whether CCFL or LED driven don't have what I would consider to be high contrast ratios.

OTOH, OLED has incredible contrast ratio.

 

yes, the 11.1" from asus. it has a very ugly image. it's like if the led's are shining trough the display itself, and you see the color of them, and only washed out the actual pixels in front. wierd and ugly.

the 2710p of mine on the other hand has the sharpest, clearest, and most colourful picture i've ever seen (and i happily prefer to use that over the 24" tft i have at home, though, because of real size and pixel amount, i still like to use the 24" but for reading, browsing, watching pictures, etc, the 2710p image is unmatched).

oh, and, making a fullscreen white image at full brightness, the 2710p creates a great diffusing flashlight