8-core CPU for notebooks

Hey all,

It's been a while since I've posted here.

Currently if you purchase the Eurocom Panther 5 system you can get the Desktop version CPU, the 4960X Extreme which, features 6 cores. I'm hoping an 8 core version will also be available when Haswell-E is released.

Has there been any rumours or speculations on this?

 

Nope. No news about it yet, as far as I've seen.

 

Put this way most program nowdays unless you use like Adobe CS, video software, CAD will not take advantage of the multiple cores. Duo 2 Core would do more for the everyday users. Games have yet to use the full two dual cores features.

 

Nope. Battlefield 4 says hi. :hi2:

 

BF4 and a number of other titles like Crysis 3, Metro LL, and I think Far Cry 3 even use 4+ cores. Most of those lose benefit beyond four cores, but they are becoming more and more common. Just like 8GB RAM will be at least minimum considering many games are supporting 64-bit and pushing large RAM usage. Even Watch Dogs has minimum 8GB RAM. Even the turn based strategy game Galactic Civilizations III will be 64-bit only, likely require 6-8GB RAM, and can make use of pretty much any number of cores you throw at it. Considering consoles now have 8 cores (which really is probably no different than Intel's quad core with hyper threading), I would suspect newer games will also make use of 4-8 threads if the games can make use of it.

 

Even when 8 core Haswell-E is released you'll need to wait for Clevo to update the P570WM, so it could be a while.

 

You could always order the P570WM3 with a Xeon processor. Lower clock speed per core, but hey if you need the extra cores it can go all the way up to 12 cores / 24 threads..

 

If you go to Mythlogic to customize one, you can use one of the 8-core Xeons and it's supported. So yes, you can technically do so, though the reasons behind WHY would be the next thing to consider... xD

WHY would you need that much firepower? If it's for a literal mobile workstation, then yeah I can understand, but aside from that, I can't see a reason behind doing something like that. o3o

 

That's good to hear but everyday users will not really gain much from multiple cores though other then a hole in their wallet and for retired gamers like me I don't have much time for games like Crysis, Metro, Far Cry....I need my Desktop power for productivity and doing work nowdays. I am though thinking of going Intel 1150 i7-477K because it's coming down in price and need to upgrade my board to newer tech.

 

This was a reply to your post:

Where you said "Games have yet to use the full two dual core features." which is not really the case. Otherwise, yes, dual core is more than sufficient for most user's tasks. Although the benefits of dual cores like faster single thread performance and lower power are quickly waning since quad cores have similar single and dual core speeds, and power saving features also result in similar idle/low use performance. Not to mention as time goes on more and more apps and games are multi-threaded, and Windows improves on taking advantage of more cores. Heck look at the new Atom CPU's, 4W TDP quad core CPU. Very impressive.

 

Look at the mobile phones these days, quad core is not uncommon and more cores to be had. Anyway, it's not always about one application using all the cores but also about concurrency with several applications running at the same time.

 

It looks like you can go all the way up to a dodecacore Xeon E5-2697 on the system you linked if you've got the money to do so. Adds a bit over $2000 to the price, but if you can swing it, the future is here today.

Really, it's the 32 GB of RAM that looks unimpressive when you configure it as a $10,000 monster system with a 12-core CPU, dual 880 GTXs in SLI, and 4 TB of SSD storage.

 

You know what the problem with this is though? A mildly overclocked Haswell i7-4930MX or i7-4940MX will beat even the 12-core Xeon at most tasks. Why? Because the Haswell chip will be clocked higher and Haswell vs Ivy Bridge gives a good little boost anyway. Very few applications are optimized for more than 4 cores. To get the most performance out of this Eurocom laptop, you really need to stick to an extreme 6 core processor. Otherwise, there is no advantage to it over going with a Haswell Extreme mobile processor.

 

Hi,

To play Playstation and Wii/Gamecube emulation games at maximum settings. To have the visuals at top range, sound in syc, plus many extras anti-aliasing; anisotropic filtering; per-pixel lighting at HD/46 - you need one serious system. And, I'm a notebook person not desktop.

 

Thanks, do you know if those CPUs have a codename as such?

 

Doesn't matter what the codenames are. Even when the Haswell-E chips are released, the current P570WM which runs off the X79 platform won't take those chips. You'll need to wait for Clevo to engineer in the X99 platform into the P570WM.

 

Yes, I understand that. I was just curious if they were codenamed already. Like you normally get a list of speculated name for all the different series/version prior to release.

 

Hi everyone,

So, I've been looking into the new Intel Haswell E process 5960x and see it's clockspeed is quite low. It's 3.0Ghz with a boost of 3.3Ghz. See attachment.

I was wondering is it going to be more powerful than the Devil's Canyon CPU which, apparently has been overclocked close to 5.0ghz.

 

DDR4, 8 Cores Intel cpu? I think it will be much more powerful than Devil's Canyon.

But of course, that will depend on the workload you're imagining it in.

 

You can put a 12 core Xeon in the P570WM if you want by the way.

 

But people who actually bothered to carry around this thing usually do have software that scale well to 12 cores.

 

Hi,

I'll wait for the next edition and then see.

What do you think will the 5960x be overclockable well past 4.0Ghz when it's clockspeed is only 3.0hghz?

Devil's Canyon has been pushed up there.

 

Don't go by that WCCF article, the overclockers at the Intel OC event were given 5 ES chips each which were likely binned following which they speed binned to get the best one of those 5. Each team then ran the chip WATER COOLED and not air with an LN2 container open next to the radiator fan intake so that the water loop temperature was way colder than any ambient anywhere. Overclockers who have been binning samples since then have not been really impressed by Devil's Canyon.

I will likely get that octacore for my desktop rig but it will have the same integrated VRM that was the bane of desktop Haswell. How does anyone think a laptop will be able to cool it at anything above stock? Even a high end desktop air cooler will struggle I bet.

 

Thanks for that input.

 

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