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    3 Monitor Setup Questions

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Drew1, Nov 30, 2020.

  1. Drew1

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    Hey all. How would one connect 3 external monitors to the dell xps 15 9550? I currently have 2 monitors 24' 1920x1200 connected to my monitors. One is the hdmi to hdmi to a monitor, the other is the usb-c to display port on the other monitor. I also have a 3rd cable... usb-c to hdmi as well.


    I will most likely buy a 32' 4k monitor and considering using 3 monitors. But I would first plan to use the 32' 4k monitor with one of my 24' 1920x1200 monitors in the meantime. I am also considering a 43' 4k tv as well... deciding whether 32' 4k monitor or 43' 4k TV.


    I would need to buy a docking station for this ... correct? Anyone can post a link on amazon of what i would need? Because the dell xps 15 9550, while using the ports on the laptop, you can only connect 2 monitors right since it has 1 hdmi port and 1 usb-c port? So if you want 3 monitors or more, docking station is what you need to buy?


    Also, are the new dell xps laptops or laptops now in generally have more than 1 hdmi port and 1 usb-c port so you could connect 3 monitors? Example a laptop with a usb-c port and say 2 hdmi ports on the laptop? Or is that not possible?


    So basically a docking station is required if you want 3+ monitors right? But would I also need to check if my graphics card supports 3 monitors?


    Thanks.
     
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    There's a lot of hypothetical to this.

    The # of monitors will depend on your GPU mostly. In most cases you'll have built in + 2 functionality.

    A C docking station of sorts with a built in gpu of some sort would likely be your best bet. When I was running a Surface Pro 3 as a workstation I would use a Startech USB3 docking station that had a DVI/HDMI out with a gpu built in that required drivers be installed to make the eternal monitors function. The newer "docks" function somewhat similarly w/ some extending video out w/ a small gpu housed in the dock and others just pass the signal from the device to the monitors.

    In a desktop you would be able to either add a docking station if you had a video card that supports 3-4 monitors w/ either 2x hdmi and 2 x DP outputs or add another video card to the system to expand w/ better performance than a docking station would provide. With this in mind....

    What do you plan on using the extra screen space for? If it's video intensive like gaming it's probably a better idea to avoid more than 2 monitors + the built in screen. If it's just to expand your ability to have many windows open or monitoring several video feeds it would probably work fine w/ a docking setup.
     
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    Hi. Well my dell xps 15 9550 specs are


    Intel graphics card

    Nvidia Geforce GTX960M

    32gb ram

    1tb nvme ssd

    i5-6300hq processor



    I want more space so I could put more tables for online poker. Currently i can put 4 tables regular size on each of my 24' 1920x1200 monitors. I could make it 6 tables on each monitor but its too small for my liking. My laptop monitor... I don't put any tables on there.


    So if i get a 3rd monitor... say a 32' 4k or 27' 4k monitor... i know i could put either 8 or 6 more tables. But if i get another 24' 1920x1200 monitor, well i can put another 4 tables.


    I use a program called holdem manager 2 that is intensive. Like if i have no ssd... i know my laptop would lag a lot when playing poker. I do not play any video games or things like that though.


    So does my laptop support having 3 external monitors? Again right now it works with 2 external monitors... 24' 1920x1200.


    But if i get a 3rd monitor... whether a 32' or 27' 4k or 24' 1920x1200... would it work?
     
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    @Drew1 your XPS 15 has a USB Type C port with Thunderbolt3 (TB3) & DisplayPort1.2 (DP1.2), and HDMI1.4 port for displays. Good Thunderbolt3 dock may be able to handle 2x displays up to 4K60p for you, but anything Thunderbolt is very expensive.

    As a cheap and straightforward alternative, you can use a USB type C to DP1.2 cable for 4K monitor, and a USB3.0 to HDMI adapter for one of your lower resolution displays. In this scenario, you need a 4K monitor with DisplayPort input and Type C to DisplayPort cable to get 4K60p. If you use HDMI, you'll get 4K at 30Hz only.
     
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    Hey man.

    I made a mistake in one of my posts.

    Right now i have 3 cables.

    usb-c to hdmi

    usb-c to displayport

    hdmi to hdmi



    At the moment, im using usb-displayport with one of my 24' monitors. I'm using a hdmi to hdmi cable with the 2nd 24' monitor. I have a usb-c to hdmi cable as well.


    Now let say i get a 43' 4k tv instead. If i do this... i will either be using it by itself... or pairing it with one of my 24' monitors. I would then use my usb-c to hdmi cable with the 43' 4k tv right? That cable is 4k.


    Would you recommend buying a 43' 4k tv as a monitor for online poker starlight? I read lot of ppl use big tvs as monitors... some ppl say that is good others are against it. Lot of ppl in poker forum mostly use monitors though. But 43' 4k tv seems like it gives a lot of space for tables. But when you put it on your table... i only have a 4 foot wide folding table that is 2 feet long only. I won't be that far from ther the TV screen though would that be an issue? I mean... no way i would be like 4 feet away from the TV. Im usually 2 feet or less from my current monitors.
     
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    @Drew1 with what you have, you can only get 4k60p resolution with USB C to DP.

    Not sure about using TVs for productivity tasks including multi-table poker. What I can tell you for sure is that you'll be stuck with 4K 30hz if you connect a TV with USB C to HDMI cable. 30Hz will provide terrible experience, you might get eye fatigue and headache.

    To get 4K 60p over HDMI from your laptop with DP1.2 USB type C port, you'll need an active DisplayPort to HDMI adapter. I was unable to find any USB C to HDMI active adapters, maybe you'll have better luck. If you don't find any, Type C to DP adapter with active DP to HDMI adapter should get you 4K 60p, unless I'm missing something.
     
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    Hey. Well if i use a usb-c to hdmi cable that is 4k... wouldn't that work? I have a usb-c to hdmi cable as well and its 4k. So wouldn't that work?
     
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    As far as I know, this cable won't do 4K@60Hz with your laptop, only 4K@30Hz.
    Yes.
     
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    Hi. But would the first cable work with my laptop to a 4k TV though?
     
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    It will work as 4K@30Hz instead of 4K@60Hz. 30Hz is OK for movies, terrible for everything else.
     
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    Hi. But this cable if you read the details of it say 4k 60 hz though. So why is it 4k @ 30 hz?


    Yea i was told if you use laptop with a tv with 30 hz, its basically unusable.
     
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    Your laptop's USB Type C port has DisplayPort 1.2 (DP1.2) output. If the cable in question is passive, it will do 4K 30Hz from DP1.2, and 4K 60Hz from DP1.4. If it is active, it will do 4K 60Hz even from DP1.2. The cable seems to be passive, but I may be mistaken. You can come to a store with your notebook and cable, and try it with a TV, to know for sure.
     
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    Hey man. I bought a 32' 4k monitor but haven't received it yet.


    Is this what i need to buy if i want to connect all 3 monitors to my dell xps 15 9550 laptop?

    I will be using my two 24' 1920x1200 monitors... and also like to use the 32' 4k monitor together.







    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QKVY23Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1V0B25HYT8EJ1&psc=1


    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X5KSBNJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1QTGXAMH2TVVP&psc=1
     
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    @Drew1 try with cables you already have, before purchasing anything.
     
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    Hey. Well the cables i have are


    usb-c to display port cable

    usb-c to hdmi cable

    hdmi to hdmi cable


    I'm using 2 of those cables right now at the moment with my two 24' 1920x1200 monitors. The usb-c to display port cable and the hdmi to hdmi cable.


    When i receive the 32' 4k monitor... i know i would be using the usb-c to display port cable with it. Then with one of the monitors i have, i will use hdmi to hdmi cable. But if i want to use the other monitor i currently have... what cable would i need for it? Because i know with what i have now...i can only connect max 2 monitors to my laptop.


    So i want to know what cable/adapter i would need once my 32' 4k monitor arrives.
     
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    @Drew1
    seems the most straightforward option to me. Your USB type C port won't be able to drive a 4K display at 60Hz and an FHD display simultaneously, in my opinion.
     
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    I'm confused by this. So if i use my usb-c to displayport cable with the new 32' 4k monitor... it will get 60hz. Then i use my hdmi to hdmi cable with one of my 24' 1920x1200 monitors... that would work right?


    But if i wanted to use both of my 24' 1920x1200 monitors with the 32' 4k monitor... it won't work? Or it won't work with the 3 cables i currently have? Because you say usb 3.0 to hdmi adapter for one of your lower resolution displays... i already have that right? The usb-c to hdmi cable? When you say usb 3.0 to hdmi adapter... is that the same as the one i currently have?


    Then what do i use with the 4k monitor then to get it hooked up?


    Thanks.
     
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    Nope, I mean USB 3.0 Type A to HDMI adapter. You don't have one, yet.

    This way, you'll have USB C cable for 4k display, HDMI to HDMI for first FHD, and USB A to HDMI for second FHD.
     
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    Hi. Do you mean in the last sense USB C TO HDMI for second FHD?

    Well I do have a usb-c to hdmi cable i posted... but that doesn't work because it isn't 3.0? So the one i have is 1.4?

    Can you give me a link to it on amazon.com?

    Is it one of these?

    https://www.amazon.com/uni-Thunderb...1&keywords=usb+to+hdmi&qid=1608515338&sr=8-10

    https://www.amazon.com/ABLEWE-Graph...=1&keywords=usb+to+hdmi&qid=1608515338&sr=8-3

    https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Mult...=1&keywords=usb+to+hdmi&qid=1608515338&sr=8-8
     
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    Also related question to this.


    My two current monitors are


    Asus C624BQ

    Samsung syncmaster T240HD


    I actually didn't think about this or mentioned this earlier... but the samsung syncmaster t240hd i have... i believe its actually a tv and not a monitor? I googled it and it says its a hdtv disguised as a monitor. I bought it years ago used from someone but have been using it for years.


    Also what i noticed is everytime i turn on both of my monitors... before i turn on my laptop which is connected to both of it... there is always a message of no signal in the middle and on the top left hdmi pc on it. But on my asus monitor... it doesn't have any of that. So when i turn on my laptop, then both screens you go to the main screen etc.


    So have i been using a TV as monitor the entire time? When i got it years ago bought used... i didn't think of it... i just saw it was 1920x1200 resolution and that was needed. But when looking at the samsung syncmaster... the screen isn't as good as the asus one. Is it because that samsung syncmaster is actually a tv or is it a monitor? The stand it uses... makes it look like a monitor.
     
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    No, I mean USB 3.0 Type A.

    You have only 2 video outputs - USB type C and HDMI - but three monitors to connect. Your USB type C ports barely has enough bandwidth to drive 4K monitor at 60Hz, thus you can only use it to connect one 4K monitor and nothing else. Your HDMI port can only drive single monitor because HDMI doesn't support daisy chaining. Thus, you need additional video output. USB 3.0 (Type A) to HDMI adapter is the easiest and cheapest solution to this problem I can think of.
     
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    Hi there. I checked the link you posted. So if i buy the thing you linked... how would the connections work with all of my three monitors?


    So the usb-c to display port will be connected how? But with this adapter... how do you connect my two current monitors? I read online and someone said the two current monitors i have... cannot be daisy chained. So how would it work with this adapter? Also i notice it says up to 1080P HD.


    Isn't that an issue since my two current monitors are 1920x1200 resolution?

    I have the usb-c port in my laptop and the hdmi port. So how can three monitors be connected even when buying this adapter? Im looking at the picture and im confused because there doesn't seem to be two slots?
     
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    You said

    This way, you'll have USB C cable for 4k display, HDMI to HDMI for first FHD, and USB A to HDMI for second FHD.



    This is where I'm confused. So usb-c to display port cable for 4k display which i currently have the cable... but waiting for the monitor.

    Use the hdmi to hdmi cable i currently have with one of my current monitors.

    For the second monitor i have.. you say USB A to HDMI for second FHD. My current monitors are 1920x1200 resolution though so wouldn't that be an issue? I can't have my current monitor only go 1920x1080. But not only that... how would this cable even connect from my laptop to my second current monitor since i only have one usb-c port and one hdmi port in my laptop?
     
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    One USB port is an issue. One that may not be able to be addressed even with a USB hub. :(
     
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    It should not be an issue.
    You have couple USB 3.0 Type A ports as well. You will use one of those.
     
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    Where are these couple USB 3.0 Type A ports you are speaking of? Are you talking about my xps laptop? Or do you mean the back of my current monitors? At the moment this is what is connected in my laptop.



    I have a usb-c to display port cable with my asus monitor

    I have a hdmi to hdmi cable with my samsung monitor

    I have one of those four port hubs connected to a usb port where it connects my ethernet cable and wired keyboard.

    I have a wireless mouse connector connected to one of my usb ports on my laptop.

    I have my charger connected to my laptop


    You are talking about those usb ports where i plugged in the four port hub and the wireless mouse connector?
     
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    I guess he is! Plug everything else into the four-port hub and use one directly from the notebook to connect the third monitor.

    @Drew1, why do you make everything so hard? :D
     
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    Okay I did not think about that. My thought was i only have a usb-c/thunderbolt port on my laptop and hdmi port... so how would i even connect a third cable from it... does that make sense?


    I did not think about oh you can use one of your usb ports as like those ports you connect your port hub etc.


    Someone told me that I could attempt to do this... but they recommend against it because doing it this way, it won't all connect to the same gpu. Do you have any opinion on this starlight5? They said using this cable you suggested would probably result in poor performance
     
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    Yes. You have two of those. Plug the USB3.0 to HDMI adapter into one of those ports, and USB hub with your other USB peripherals into the other.
    I believe that was me. If I recall correctly, I also mentioned that adapter performance will be OK for poker.
     
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    Hi there. Oh no... it was someone else who said they are against doing it this way because it won't connect to the same gpu. But did you say that as well?


    Also... i received my monitor the samsung 32 uj590 and im having issues right now with the setup. I unplugged both of my monitors from my laptop.


    I used the usb-c to display port cable that was connected from my laptop to the asus monitor... and used that to connect to the samsung 32' 4k monitor.



    Now my issues are this.


    My other 2 cables are usb-c to hdmi and hdmi to hdmi. So i just want to right now just connect one of my two 24' 1920x1200 monitors to my laptop. Thus try using the 32' 4k and one of my 24' 1920x1200 monitors. I prefer to use the asus one since its a bit better. But apparently.... i cannot connect my laptop to it because the only cable would be hdmi to hdmi and my asus monitor does not have HDMI?

    It's Asus C624BQ. I checked and apparently it has no hdmi port?


    So that mean if i want to use a 2nd monitor... i have to use the samsung syncmaster right? But the issue is this. When i connect hdmi to hdmi to it like I do normally... it doesn't even work. But not only that... my samsung 32' 4k monitor turns off? Is there an issue with both of these external monitors having different resolutions?

    Right now im confused why does my monitor 24' 1920x1200 samsung syncmaster not work?
     
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    It's a HW limitation locking out additional monitors due to system constraints. You need a docking station to mux the multiple monitors. Using the DP option on a 4K is consuming more resources than the smaller FHD monitors.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073X4V5FF
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FKTZLBS
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DXMYF69

    These for instance take your USB-C and provide 3 monitor outputs over that single connection due to having internal GPUs to handle the resource requirements.

    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...6300hq-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-20-ghz.html
    # of Displays Supported ‡3
    • Graphics OutputeDP/DP/HDMI/DVI
    • Max Resolution (HDMI)‡4096x2304@24Hz (3) This is where your FHD would connect
    • Max Resolution (DP)‡4096x2304@60Hz (2) This is where your 32" 4K would be connecting
    • Max Resolution (eDP - Integrated Flat Panel)‡4096x2304@60Hz (1) This is your built in screen
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/gaming-laptops/geforce-gtx-960m/specifications/

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...onitors-on-geforce-gtx-960m-on-laptop-asus-g/
    "Yes you can add a 2nd monitor for mirror or independent modes.. however; the secondary monitor will not utilize the 960M. Instead this will be powered by the Intel APU."
    "Using a USB to HDMI "converter" works one of two ways... A: The Video output is processed by the CPU (very low performance) B: The converter is it's own rendering device (ie: external VGA processor) such as the Matrox double/triple-head Go units."

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-15-2016-9550-InfinityEdge-Notebook-Review.156354.0.html
    The HDMI port only supports the version 1.4a, so there is a limitation: UHD displays are limited to 30 Hz.
    60 Hz even on two displays is only possible with DisplayPort adaptors or displays that can be attached via USB-C.

    The previously mentioned Mini-Dock (HDMI, VGA, RJ45, USB 3.0 type A) is almost an emergency solution compared to the Dell Thunderbolt Dock TB15. It not only charges the XPS 15 via one cable but can also drive up to three Full HD displays / two 4K displays


     
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    In another thread. But it was specifically regarding DisplayLink adapters, like the one I linked to you.

    You might want to follow @Tech Junky advice.
     
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    Yes that is me. I asked this question in that forum and that person answered lot of my questions... but i also wanted opinion from others here. Like that person said what starlight suggested with the usb a 3.0 cable... it can possibly work but it might have issues because its not directly connected to the gpu directly.
     
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    Okay so after trial and error it all day, I finally got both my monitors to work. I do see its 4k 3840x2160 on the new 32' display and its 1920x1200 on the 24'. It seems to work okay at the moment.


    Using a usb-c to DP for 4k uses more resources than the smaller monitors. What do you mean by this? You mean cpu etc?


    I took a look at those 3 links you gave me. I mean those are pretty much as expensive or more expensive than a Dell Docking Station I saw on dell website. So i guess you say if i do this, just get the dell one instead? Also the one you posted the dell thunderbolt dock tb 15 isn't sold on dell. I assume its an older model? On dell site, they have D6000. I do see the tb15 on ebay though but used but i wouldn't want to go that route as i want it new.


    So those mini dock that is mentioned... usb 3.0 type A etc... almost no one uses those full time then with their laptop? Is there any danger using it like causing damage etc?


    Right now... it seems okay using a 32' 4k and a 24' 1920x1200 but again i sort of want to use my other monitor as well. Now if i were to get a docking station or one of those 3 things that are linked... do i need to buy a cable for my asus monitor? Because right now... i couldn't connect that monitor as oppose to the samsung syncmaster because the asus doesn't have hdmi... only has displayport... and since im using usb-c to display port with the 32' 4k monitor... well i don't have a cable for that. So i would need to buy also another usb-c to display port cable or hdmi to display port cable if that exist for the asus monitor?
     
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    Using a usb-c to DP for 4k uses more resources than the smaller monitors. What do you mean by this? You mean cpu etc?

    I mean that there are specific amounts of bandwidth allocated depending on the connection type being used. As you SHOULD see in the outline of how many displays can be used with your processor and GPU. The line indicating 3 FHD //OR// 2 UHD displays is related to the bandwidth required to drive the displays and have them perform at spec.

    The TB15 on ebay is about 1/2 the price of the 3 links is you don't mind 2nd hand docks. Make sure you get the cable with the dock otherwise it's just going to be another headache to deal with waiting on one to be shipped.

    If you buy a TB15 or one of the others you need to check the outputs on the dock and plan accordingly. If you don't have the specified interface on the monitor or the cable then you need a different solution. The idea behind the 3 links is that you simply need a C cable from your laptop to the dock and then run all 3 monitors through the dock instead of trying to mash things together with spaghetti of cables.

    The TB15 has HDMI + DP + DP mini for outputs.

    Look at the specs for each and figure out which one matches your needs. Some might drive 4K @ 60 and others might be 30mhz. If you don't have a mini DP then you'll need to get one. What I would do is make a spreadsheet for each monitor and count the ports and type and then match that against each dock solution to make sure you don't shoot yourself in the foot for compatibility.
     
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    Hi thank you for the response. Okay so would these 3 things work? In another forum, someone said instead of a dock, i could get a thunderbolt to dual hdmi 2.0 adapter or thunderbolt to displayport. This would cost around or less than half the price of the 3 links you posted. When i saw your links, my first thought it was it had to been cheaper than the Dell dock by a lot... then was surprised it was simlar price.


    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KB7NKR9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A29Y8OP2GPR7PE&psc=1

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DYFI0AY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ&psc=1

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F81EIBC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3HIHADV23VGU1&psc=1



    Now... if I decide to just forget about connecting my 3rd monitor and stick to what im using now... the 32' 4k monitor with usb-c to display port cable and the 24' 1920x1200 with the hdmi to hdmi... that is still fine right? You say it uses lot more bandwidth this way. But is there risk of damage to computer?
    Right now im not 100% sure if i want to connect my other monitor because I had no idea this 32' 4k monitor was going to take up this much space on my 4 foot folding table.




    And my last question is this. In the future... I think I will only use 2 monitors and they both will probably be 32' 4k monitors like the one i just bought. Thus when i go back to the US for example, I will most likely buy 2 of the same 32' 4k monitors i have now. If that is what i plan to do in the future and never plan to get 3 external monitor display... then I wouldn't need any of these expensive cables or docks right? Thus for the second 32' 4k monitor ... I would just buy that hdmi 3.0 adapter to hdmi for 4k 60hz? Because i know the current cable i also have which is usb-c to hdmi... even though it up to 4k hz... its only hdmi 1.4 and not 3.0 as my laptop xps 9550 only has hdmi 1.4.


    I asked why do people buy docking stations when they connect just 2 external monitors when i thought... why dont they just do usb-c to display port and hdmi to hdmi etc... and someone in another forum said its because they don't want so many cables dangling around. To me... that doesn't bother me at all though.
     
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    https://www.anandtech.com/show/1459...:text=The big news here, of,(30-bit) monitors.

    This will detail out the bandwidth per application whether DP or TB

    Specifically HDMI adapter / C isn't a great option because of the transcoding that happens within the adapter complicates things more than should be. C -> DP is your best option as you'll get higher resolution and refresh rate as DP is native over C.

    As to the spaghetti cabling it can be a preference or lack of need (FHD) / knowledge on the signaling requirements to power 4K vs FHD.... As you have come to realize you can't have 3 w/o some external dock/gpu setup due to the limitations of the hardware in your CPU/GPU and the GPU is only used for the built in display and not the external outputs.

    HDMI/other cabling options:
    https://www.howtogeek.com/661325/should-you-use-hdmi-displayport-usb-c-or-thunderbolt-for-a-4k-moni/

    https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/hdmi-versions
    so, you mention 1.4 and nothing higher....
    1.4 10.2 48 3840x2160 30p

    That's it... nothing more...option for less.

    Get beyond 2.0 whether native hardware or adapter then you can go beyond that and het a higher refresh or higher resolution over HDMI.

    Dual 4K best option is still a dock that has integrated graphics chips to handle the function your laptop won't support.
    https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Display-Horizontal-DisplayPort-Ethernet/dp/B07CRSH25X $149
    https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-TB3DKDPMAW-Thunderbolt-Dock-Ethernet/dp/B01MSEKBNM $168

    https://www.displaylink.com/products/universal-docking-stations -- This will let you search by # of screens, resolution, etc. This gives you the basis of product ID's you can search for better deals outside of the OEM.
     
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    Like to update this. Few things I want to ask in 2 situations.


    So as I mentioned I am currently using 2 monitors right now.


    Samsung UJ59 32' 4K Monitor

    Samsung syncmaster T240HD 24' Monitor



    I have these cables


    usb-c to display port cable - Currently Using It With Samsung 32' 4k Monitor to my dell xps 15 9550 laptop

    hdmi to hdmi cable - Currently Using It With Samsung 32' 4k Monitor to my dell xps 15 9550 laptop


    usb-c to hdmi cable - Not Used at the Moment




    Asus C624BQ 24' Monitor - I have this monitor as well and not using it.



    The thing is that samsung syncmaster 24' screen is messed up at the top part of the top part of the screen I will post a picture of how it looks. Because of this, I would like to use my Asus C624BQ 24' Monitor along with my samsung 4k monitor. This asus 24' does have some spots on the screen but it isn't that bad. But in order to do this... I need to buy another cable right? Would I need an hdmi to display port cable for this? I check amazon but i need to make sure it goes two ways right? I read reviews that some hdmi to displayport cables only go 1 way which is not the way i want it to?


    The thing is I only have one usb-c port in my dell xps 15 9550 laptop which is currently in use with my samsung 32' 4k monitor.
     
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    In the second situation, I still want to be able to use two 4k monitors. I am thinking about buying another 32' 4k monitor or possibly a 27/28' 4k monitor. But maybe... less likely buy a 43' 4k TV to be used as a monitor. Would you say that would be ridiculous to use a 32' 4k monitor along with a 43' 4k TV together though? Thing is my folding table is only 4 foot and I can barely put my 32' 4k monitor alongside with the 24' samsung syncmaster. But not only that... because i put my dell xps 15 9550 laptop on the table, i don't really have that much space. I did read I could buy those laptop adjustable height things but that doesn't apply such I still would be putting it on my folding table right?


    So in my folding table, its like


    Dell xps 15 9550 laptop put on the bottom left of my table but like sideways. Then the 32' 4k monitor on the left part of my table and i have to put the 24' on the right side of my table. Issue is looking from one monitor to another is very hard. Previously when i had used just two 24' monitors... i put them close to each other like a reverse letter V. Thus it was very easy to look from one monitor to another without that much neck movement. But now its really hard to look at the other 24' and use it much because of my 32' 4k monitor.


    Now let say I get a bigger table, like a 6 foot table, I know I would have lot of space to put my monitors.


    Now If I want to have two 4k monitors and make sure they run at 6k hertz, thus my 32' 4k samsung monitor with another 4k monitor or TV whether its 27/28/32 or 43' TV... I need to buy a docking station right? Thing is i check amazon and they sell a dell one for around $130 dollars plus tax. Then I see other brands that are cheaper or much more expensive. Would those work as well? If so, can others link me the exact docking station I should get?


    Again, I can use 2 monitors at the moment with my dell xps 15 9550 ... whether its my 32' 4k samsung with another 24' monitor with 1920x1200 resolution.... or use two 24' monitors with 1920x1200 resolution with the cables I currently have.


    But if I want to use two monitors of 4k... best recommendation for docking station that would be best for me? Also would it work if say I use it with my current 3 monitors? Such as my 32' 4k samsung and the other two 24' 1920x1200 monitor?


    I also remember reading somewhere if you use a 4k monitor, you should almost always use a docking station as oppose to the method im using... which is a usb-c to display port to a 4k monitor because it uses less resources. Is there any truth to this? And what exactly is meant by less resources? Because there doesn't seem to be any lag on the 32' 4k monitor. I did read people say if your 4k monitor does 30hz, then its basically unusable if using it for a computer monitor.