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Possibly. I mean it moved like 1cm after being shipped around the world

 

It's quite an alarming scenario like you say, and it makes you wonder if this could be the actual concern regarding the battery rather than the software part of it. Perhaps the tape itself was originally thought to be more durable during the production stages but obviously not since what you have described with these laptops being shipped all over the world.

Do you actually physically feel it moving around if you rock the laptop around a little or to it's side? The battery layout on the Aero 14 looks exactly the same as well, and no screws to fix it down cannot be seen either - however the battery itself is totally enclosed on all ends in the compartment.

Liam.

 

Looking forward to your review or summary, and from any owner here. How do you like it so far vs. Blade 14, GS63VR and XPS 15? Portability, gaming, build quality, anything really.

 

I have received this laptop from Newegg for about 1 week now, it is a nice laptop overall, but i have some doubts about my unit.

1. I saw that most units on the Internet reviews have that "X-rite Pantone" label locate at the bottom right hand corner of their screens, but my unit does not have it.

2. When i got my unit, the "power cycle count" of the SSD hard drive is over 200 times (i checked this data using a few different software). After using it for about one week, the "power cycle count" rises to about 300 times and the "Power on time" comes to 7 hours.

I'm suspecting that i got an open-box laptop (at least the SSD hard drive), because it is very strange to see that a new laptop has a "power cycle count" over 200 times.

Guys, what is the condition of your new Aero 15 regarding the two issues i mentioned? What do you think?
Does Newegg sell open-box units or Gigabyte uses some old parts on their new laptops or i'm just being too suspicious?

 

My laptop is similar to yours PT:

1. No Pantone label on either the screen (no labels there at all) or the keyboard deck (has Aero 15, Geforce, and Core i7). I do have installed color settings in which the file matches the ID of my display panel, and I do feel they improve the quality of movies and videos when activated. I'm not worried about not having a sticker, I could see it being something added just to review units. (I'm much more concerned that apparently at least some review units received IGZO panels, as opposed to the Innolux panel shipped to me (and all other US customers?). Also my panel has a mid 2015 mfr date - when I asked Gigabyte about it, they replied that that's how long mfrs need to stockpile new displays in order to support a product launch.)

2. SMART for my drive also shows 200+ power ons (I'm good for maybe a couple dozen at most), yet only 3 hours of power on time (I'm good for far more than that). I'm not sure how many times a drive is power cycled in the process of manufacturing and initial testing, and then again during qualification of the completed notebook. More likely I suspect there's just something off in the software here?

For myself I'm not going to worry about the drive. I never planned to use it as my primary drive anyway. The rest of my laptop shows no other signs of being used or having wear and tear on it so I'm not worried there.

I am disappointed about the lack of IGZO display as seen in reviews and on the newegg page (mentioned indirectly, as "same panel as Dell 9560.") I am leaning towards my returning my unit because of this, because the keyboard can not register ctrl + shift + n, and because of my concerns over the not-a-recall-but-unexplained-units-taken-back documented elsewhere on these forums.

 

No, you don't feel it moving. Especially after I added more tape.

 

Brucek2:

Thank you for the response. At least i now know that i'm not the only one who has no Pantone sticker on the panel.

1. I also have the Innolux panel N156HCA-EA1 (CMN15D7) on my unit, the same one that notebookcheck has reviewed. I don't think that you should worry too much about the mfr date of the screen cause they are usually older. I understand that IGZO panels usually have better color space, but if you have read the review on notebookcheck, the IGZO panel that xps15 uses has a really bad response time comparing to this screen, i heard that the XPS 15 screen has a blurring issue when playing games due to the bad response time. So i'd rather have something with better response time, yet it is a personal preference.

2. I don't think there is anything wrong with SMART, i tested mine using a few different software, they all show 200+ for power cycle count, which is really too much for a new laptop, usually power cycle count should be around 50 times or so since they need to do some initial test. But maybe LITEON has a different standard for their initial testing??

I also have the keyboard (ctrl+shift+n) issue, but i don't use it much, so i'm not concerning it too much and i think that is a software issue which can be fixed in the later firmware. As long as i'm not having a second hand hard drive, i prefer to keep it cause it looks really nice , although i still wanna cover that orange line on the front cover, any suggestions on that?

My battery last about 7 hours for regular uses (some web + word + pdf ) at 40% brightness using Power saver mode, is it normal or a bit less than what they advertised? To get 10 hours, i guess i have to turn off my Internet access, but never tried that.

 

Nice to read. Regarding the 7hrs regular use, seems that is okay. Maybe in newer revisions of BIOS and drivers there will be any improvement, also the battery may need some cycles to work proparly (and the software will recognize / forecast littl better then). And yes, maybe liteon has different test cycles or does not reset before shipping the SSD which causes the 200+ on times, but thats no big thing and won´t impact anything out of my perspective.

Regarding the display, I would not be that unhappy not having the pantone sticker and manufacturing date is "long ago", as long the display works nice and colors are okay and there´s no much backlite bleeding whatsoever. Atm i´m using XPS13 IGZO panel (QHD+) and wanna find a video or image compared to the Aero15 display, cause i love the IGZO up on many reasons (black level / colors / brightness), i hope the Aero15 ones will be near that, but not yet found any comparison.

Q: What do you guys think about the fan noise under real life load for over 20 or 30 min´s (in games / or real life usage, not benchmarks or burn in tests)? Are you happy with that?

Regards, aVa

 

I think it's highly likely that Gigabyte may well be only using the Innolux panel on the Aero 15 and no other panel, and it's pretty bad on NewEgg's part for quoting that the Aero 15 uses the exact same panel as the XPS 15 - just goes to show that they haven't done their research into the laptop properly & their overall review on it is terrible in my opinion.

I also think that Gigabyte maybe sticking to the Innolux panel on the Aero 15 because of the slim bezel design overall, and as already explained - the Sharp panel used in the XPS 15 has a bad response time & suffers from ghosting.

Liam.

 

I think it is simpler than that. I bet the WVA panel is significantly less expensive than the IGZO panel;-)

I wonder how many returns Newegg has received from their own misinformation? I notice they already have open box returned ones, it was $1799 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...m_re=gigabyte_aero_15-_-34-233-205R-_-Product

The Innolux WVA seems like a decent enough screen that I'm not changing my pre-order. Still would have been nice to have the Sharp IGZO as Newegg advertised. Has anyone outside the USA received an Aero 15 with the SHP1453 LQ156M1?

 

True, I imagine the Sharp panel is more expensive than the Innolux one - though it's been documented that the Sharp one is more focused towards the photo & video editing market, hence why it's ended up in the XPS 15.

It truly is a great panel but quite frankly in a way I'm glad it's not fitted to the Aero 15 as gaming on it would be horrendous.

All being well I should receive my new Aero 15 sometime this week (Still on pre-order - It was supposed to come back in stock at Scan UK on the Friday just gone!) When I receive it I will do a personal opinion between the panel it comes with and my own recent experience with owning the XPS 15.

The member on here, iunlock who is maybe from Europe, as well as me did quote that the Aero 15 he's testing at the moment does come with the Innolux panel - there's yet to be anyone else who currently owns the Aero 15 to confirm otherwise I believe.

Liam.

 

Response to me from Gigabyte:

"
Dear Douglas,

Thanks for your mail.

Please kindly note that there's no recalls for AERO 15. As checked, the information is because of the miscommunication. The consumer who posted the news has also updated on 5/11/2017.

The issue was that the previous version of Smart Manager mis-detect the remaining power volume. The newer version has been upload. Users who purchased AERO 15 could update the Smart Manager in Smart Update for your information.

Best Regards,
GIGABYTE"

 

It's pretty much concrete now that no such recall ever existed.

Fingers crossed that UK retailers take new stock this week, I'm still waiting on some more news for my pre-order from Scan UK.

Liam.

 

I also received this answer from Gigabyte:

 

Ah, fixed:

 

It does sound like there may have been at least an unofficial "internal" recall, in order to update units that hadn't yet shipped. That would explain listings and stock disappearing from retailer websites, and small delays to update inventory. Granted, a software update to an optional utility to monitor battery life hardly seemed enough to justify all the fake news that spread.

The photo or video isn't showing for me, what was it?

 

Carbon fiber vinyl wrap

 

Brucek2:
I got another question, it's regarding the coil noise. I can hear a constant coil noise if i put my ear close to the bottom left hand corner of "C" side (the side with keyboard) of the laptop. The noise is not noticeable for normal use, but it is very annoying if you put your ear within 10 cm from that corner. This issue exists no matter what, i set the fan speed to quiet, it is still there, so definitely not caused by the fan. I suspect it has something to do with the SSD, cause the same location on the right corner does not have the noise.

What is the condition of your laptop regarding this issue?

 

Why are you using your laptop with your ear 10cm from the left corner?

 

I'm curious too


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I suspect the answer is in your nickname

 

Inb4 revolutionary

 

I'm pleased and relieved to see the communications from Gigabyte addressing the rumored recall. A software bug concerning estimated remaining battery hours concerns me not in the least. As to why that sort of issue would ever result in a customer being told to ship his unit back, I don't understand. I don't even really understand why retailers would ship unsold units back, vs. just taping on a piece of paper explaining the issue. I assume virtually all customers would rather have had their units sooner and perform the software update themselves, vs. getting units later in order to have it done at the factory?!? But since everyone else seems to feel there's nothing here to worry about, I'm easing up on it too.

I'm also easing up on my initial dissatisfaction with the non-Igzo display, thanks to posters here and elsewhere pointing out the gaming advantages of the Innolux. I still notice and am disappointed by mild banding and ho-hum contrast/pop while watching videos and I wish I didn't. This could be in part because I'm too spoiled by my non-mobile equipment. Either way the "big picture" remains - what other notebook represents a better overall set of tradeoffs? For me and spring 2017, the answer may still be "none."

I had been holding off installing my pcie drive / reinstalling win pro / setting up my full development environment since I planned on sending it back. I may move forward with that now.

As to the noise in the bottom left corner - yes I can hear it if I stick my ear there. I would never have noticed it if it wasn't for the post asking about it. I'm pretty fussy about noise, I think it'd be few to no people who find it an issue.

Where can I find that carbon fiber skin?

 

Don't sleep on your laptop? If you can't hear it in normal use then maybe it's just bugging you a little too much unless it's noticeable audible. To be honest every machine has a bit of coil whine.

To be honest I think a lot of us are suffering from new toy syndrome. Rightfully so considering how expensive the machine is. I have OCD when it comes to things like this but even then you have to appreciate how silly some of our gripes are especially putting your ear to the keyboard and saying there's coil whine. You'd have never noticed that unless someone even mentioned that. Also take the screen for what it is. Don't really care if it's not IGZO but provided it hits the colour accuracy and gamut as described that's great. This laptop is the bee's knees and I plan on giving Gigabyte UK feedback for improvements as I've now got a contact there!!

 

Guys, I guess you will not laugh any more if you get stuck into that bottom-left-corner-noise problem in some quiet nights.
But now you wouldn't cause i figured it out, and you can test it and see if i am right.

Set your Fan speed to Quiet using Smart manager; Open your Gigabyte Fusion, go to light control tab, Set "Animation" as "Static", Set your keyboard color to White; Set the RGB light to the maximum, Put your ear close to the bottom left corner. Guess what, you will make your laptop whine! Actually you can hear that whining noise without getting very close (say 10cm ) to that corner.

Different colors of RGB make different levels of coil whining, but generally white makes the greatest and dark makes no noise (same if you turn off RGB completely).

All I am doing here is trying to avoid sending this machine back, like Brucek2 said, you can't find a better trade-off in the market for the time being, so if there is no big issue or bug on this machine, i'd like to keep it. And it is better to find all the potential problems now before it is too late to return it.

By the way Brucek2, what is your biggest reason for sending it back?

 

Hi agent_pires,
You are right, we all got some kind of new toy syndrome.
But to be honest,the noise that i have described is not the normal coil whining that comes from CPU (which i don't really care about that much and i undervolt CPU to alleviate it). That noise really bugs me a lot due to the high constant pitch. Test your machine using the method i mentioned earlier, you will see how bad it is, especially for people like me who like to maintain a very quiet environment while writing during nights.

In a addition, if there is a way to set "normal" fan speed to less than 2000 RPM, say 500- 1000 RPM, i would turn it on instead of setting fan speed to "Quiet" which can increase CPU temp a lot. But i guess i'm asking too much in this case.

 

I'll have to wait till I get my machine unfortunately. I appreciate your gripes because I truly am the same. Any small insignificant thing as it may appear to some really annoys me.

Because once you've discovered it you can't unsee it. I really hope I don't have what you guys are experiencing because that will bug me seeing as I've been waiting since beginning of the month for my laptop. Seriously though for your own sanity if it is nothing you can tell in normal use and arms length not with your ear on the keyboard. Just let it go.

You're not going to find any other machine with these great qualities. End of the day you need to do what makes you happy. I had similar issues with the XPS 15 (dust under the glass... flickering screen etc) I'd send it back or if you want to take a lottery with Gigabyte support tell them to fix it (wouldn't bother with the hassle to be honest). I think all machines will have this issues it's just how sensitive we all are to it as we all differ.

 

Where did you find the wrap at?

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I'm very surprised that this laptop actually outputs 10 bit colour and is actually supported in Photoshop CC. I have the '30 bit display' tickbox filled in PS.
photographers will be thrilled about this.

 

Pantip Plaza

 

I would assume you can buy these kind of 3m wraps online and use a hairdryer and x-acto knife to apply it and then trim it to the right shape.

 

Never mind all that for now - get a small review of the laptop posted up, complete with lots of photos as well !! That's what we're all waiting for on here!

Liam.

 

I buy all my wraps, phone/laptops from Dbrand, great company and great product.

 

They don't make anything in custom sizes, though. They should. I think they could make a racket

 

Can't beat Pantip! How is it nowadays? My Dad lives over in the Phasi Charoen district and first visited him in 2015, as well as experiencing Pantip for the first time. However I noticed during my last stay last year that it didn't seem as busy when compared to the year before / some of the shops have moved out...

Liam.

 

Its better now I think. They renovated stuff and now it's more lively again. It's indeed better than fortune tower, where I couldn't find anyone qualified or willing to take apart a ThinkPad. Amateurs lol

 

That's good news indeed - the vibe for me last year just wasn't the same for me when compared to the year before, it was absolutely buzzing and the vibe from all the major manufacturers there was amazing. There's another place we visited as well that is similar to Pantip but solely on one floor, though on a much larger scale - Seacon I think it's called ?? Lots of mobile phone variety in particular as well.

Liam.

 

I think that's the one near SVB airport? Never been

 

Yep that's the one.

Liam.

 

Yoyotech have finally re-listed the Aero 15. Also I have finally got delivery confirmation for tomorrow! Woo been almost 3 weeks since ordering!

 

Brilliant news mate, checking over the website just now I see that they have already sold out

Edit - unless they've already taken the new stock into consideration for all the pre-orders.

Liam.

 

Well afaik I was one of 4 that had been "sold" beginning of may. It hasn't been listed on their site up until today and says "awaiting stock". My order still shows as authorised but I've already got a text from the distribution centerprise that my order is on the way for tomorrow delivery.

 

Where are the reviews at guys?! I'm patiently waiting to see more reviews but I really want to pick one up before I fly out of the country. Please, owners, upload more info on this beautiful machine!

 

Also, guys, those who are getting it with stock 16gb ram can you tell me its spec. Debating if I should get another 16gb with similar specs or buy a new set of 16gbx2 for 32gb.

 

Depending where you are based, here in the UK ours come with 2 x 8GB of Kingston RAM. I believe the US market have theirs in the 1 x 16GB configuration.

Check out my long post on the other Aero 15 thread based on my initial thoughts of the laptop yesterday, in hindsight I'm very pleased with mine.

Liam.

 

Also if anyone is wondering when you run this laptop in silent profile (along with balanced power mode setting) it's dead silent! Typing in my room at the moment and the only noise is my hands hitting the keys. Absolutely no coil whine either. (There will be very faint coil whine if set to performance or auto power setting but you'd literally have to put your ear to keyboard to hear it which is a bit stupid and really a non issue) just a FYI because I know a lot of us have OCD with such expensive items.

This machine is the bees knees. Sooo quiet when browsing the web. Love it !!

 

My understanding is that it's not as hard to match a stick closely enough for dual channel as it used to be on some older platforms, but that's just hearsay from google searches. In the USA, it's supposed to be 1 stick of 16GB DDR4 2400. In my pre-order from GentechPC, I added a 2nd stick for 16Gx2 dual channel at $85, as it seemed like a no-brainer for engineering/scientific software and to be future proof.

 

I'm in the US and its config with a single 16gb stick from vendors here. I will look at your post thanks Liam!

Yeah I'm looking at on Gentechpc too, most likely will purchase from them. I think thats the best option to go with because if I went with another set of 2 x 16gb its going to cost me more than the $85 add on.

 

My thoughts exactly. And going with faster memory seems to offer minimal performance advantage, assuming you can get it running stable at significantly higher speeds.

 

Do you think 2666Mhz ram will work on this laptop?