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    **** OFFICIAL AORUS X5 V8 OWNERS LOUNGE ****

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by LUCKASS, May 12, 2018.

  1. LUCKASS

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    Hello Vente Hardware !

    Luca BORRUTO

    Hello there,
    Just tought I can start this thread.

    Ordered on HIDEVOLUTION, with stock config, just changed the Killer Wifi Card with an Intel AC 9260 one + a LM repaste with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads.

    Here's a review here by @Christopher Reid (thx btw)

    And here's my personal review with some benchmarks:
    Before to go :
    1st : I have to said that I will compare this device mostly with my previous laptop : an Alienware 15 R3.
    2nd : I write this very quick, so I'll edit this later when I got some times, and better benchmarks
    3rd : Sorry for my bad English, it's not my native language.
    4rd : like I said in my first post, my laptop is Repasted with LM + Pads by HID.

    Gaming and Temps:

    Ok, the moment you all waiting for !
    I will complete this section later this week, because lack of time

    I never do thermals benchmarks so if you have any proposition I'll do it !

    First Benchmark on PUBG:
    With HWinfo x64 on 2 Hours intensive PUBG @ Overclock lvl 0, and with -150mv Undervolt.
    Keep in mind that I have a LM (Grizzly Conductonaut CPU + GPU and Fujipoly Thermals Pads) repaste !

    FPS Benchmark to have an idea (G-Sync active) :
    Frames: 452862
    Time (ms): 3902266
    Min: 0
    Max: 144
    Avg: 121.051

    CPU and GPU core clock :
    CPU : 3988 MHz
    GPU : ~1800 MHz

    Window Mode : Fullscreen
    Display resolution : 1920x1080
    Camera FOV : MAX
    Screen Scale : 100
    Anti-Aliasing : Ultra
    Post-Processing : Very Low
    Shadows : Very Low
    Textures : Ultra
    Effects : Very Low
    Foliage : Very Low
    View Distance : Ultra
    V-Sync : Off
    Motion Blur : Off
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    MORE TO COME LATER !
    The first thing I have noticed after opening the box : the premium feeling.
    This device is awesome, there is 0 flex and it's look so sexy.
    I got on my previous laptop an 120hz Screen so I was not so amazed by the 144hz, but trust me 120+hz screen is just awesome.
    The screen itself is very good, with nice color accuracy thanks to Pantone, but I do not use this, I prefer the standard display settings (easy one click on the command center program)

    I just noticed a lack of Brightness compared to my old laptop but nothing too much. (btw, is it possible to overclock the brightness of a screen?)
    Nothing to said, 512GB of REALLY fast SSD is awesome + 1To SSHD.
    That's a nice point to Aorus: a laptop delivered with real M.2 SSD.
    I don't have any bloatware thanks to HID clean install of windows, but the Aorus Command Center is just perfect, one click overclock and fan speed... This soft do anything that you want to custom your laptop and it's smooth af compared to the Alienware Center, laggy af and bugged.
    Awful performance !!
    Just kidding, you already know that with an i7-8850H and a full GTX 1070 gaming is just as great as a full sized tower.
    Just to spoil you : PUBG with "pro" settings (all to Very Low just Antialiasing, View Distance and Textures to Ultra) it run @ almost constant 144FPS !
    It's my only complain about this PC, the fan are really loud. I'm not even talking when gaming, but idle just watching YouTube videos, it's not that great. When on quiet mod it's a little bit better, Headphones recommended.
    Battery life is not impressive, like all others gaming laptop, so I'll pass on this.
    The keyboard is awesome for gaming, this is not the case when typing compared to my old laptop.
    Sometimes you miss touch because of the low travel distance.
    Maybe I'm too perfectionist about this because I use Mechanical Keyboard all time.
    The Speakers are not really impressive (need some bass and clarity) but remain really good speakers, but the Sound Card... Wow just amazing with my Beyerdynamic MMX300. It's just so impressive.

    I'll give you an advice : Do not active the Dolby Atmos ! It's just awful.

    Thanks you guys, and I promise that I'll add content later ! ;)

    Feel free to post anything releated to the v8, reviews or experiences!

    Here is the stock specs of the v8 :
    CPU: Intel Core i7-8850H (2.6-4.3 GHz)

    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB GDDR5)

    DISPLAY: 15.6”, Full HD (1920 x 1080), 144 Hz, IPS + G-Sync

    STORAGE: 512GB NVMe SSD + 1TB HDD + 1 NVMe/SATA slot

    RAM: 16GB DDR4, 2666 MHz

    I/O: Thunderbolt 3.0 x 1, HDMI 2.0 x 1, mini DP 1.4 x 1, RJ45 x 1, USB 3.1 Gen.1 (Type-A) x 3,USB 3.1 Gen.2 (Type-A) x 1, USB 3.1 Gen.2 (Type-C) x 1, Audio Jack : Earphone (HiFi / SPDIF) x 1, MIC in x 1, SD Card Reader (UHS-II) x 1, DC Jack x 1

    Audio: 1.5-watt speaker *2, 2-watt woofer *2, Microphone, ESS Sabre Hi-Fi Audio DAC, Dolby Atmos® Audio

    KEYBOARD: AORUS per-key RGB, N-key rollover, individual macro keys

    NETWORK: Killer™ LAN Chip, Killer™ Wireless-AC 1535 (802.11ac, a/b/g/n compatible), Bluetooth V4.1

    BATTERY: 94.24 Wh

    ADAPTER: 200W

    WEBCAM: 720p

    DIMENTIONS: 15.4(W) x 10.7(D) x 0.9(H)inch

    WEIGHT: 2.50 kg (5.5 lbs)

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    How have you personally liked the machine so far?
     
  3. LUCKASS

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    I receive mine on Thursday, can't wait!
    I will post a short review.
     
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    Really looking forward to seeing more about the X5!
     
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    So, don’t keep us waiting! How is it? I’m especially interested in thermals and throttling while gaming... :)
     
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    here an aorus x5 v8 gaming benchmark review (as for now still no thermal review)
     
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    Thanks! Still need more info on the thermals though...

    @Donald@HIDevolution Donald, have you guys already sold a few of these bad boys with a Conductonaut repaste and if so, care to share the max temps while testing/benchmarking? :)
     
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    Last edited: May 22, 2018
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    Thanks for your write up! I've got a few questions. First, would it be possible to post some screenshots of HWinfo during intense gaming sessions so we can see the current and max temperatures of the CPU and GPU? Second, how is the trackpad and is it compatible with windows does drivers?
     
  10. Pedro69

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    @LUCKASS

    Could you tell us how much you can overclock with 8850H? For example in 1 and 6 cores what is the max frequency that you get? Someone posted here recently that got 4.6GHz...for sure that was in one core.

    Also if you post some pics with hwinfo stats while in gaming will be great.

    Thanks for the review anyways :)
     
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  11. LUCKASS

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    I have updated my review (in the first post) with a thermals benchmark !

    Yes I have tried overclock lvl 3 and it was 4.6 ! I just have tried quick, I can do some benchmark on it tomorrow.
     
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    Well, you noticed that you have thermal throttling? Also with hwinfo you only show a 4.1 in 6 cores. Can you do more tests but this time with oc function?
     
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    Is it normal, sometimes the cpu drop to 3.9ghz so hwinfo consider this like thermal throttling but trust me, my alienware reach out 100°C and drop to 2.3ghz, and also drop to 20 gps in game, that is real throttling.

    Yes I can do this when I got time :)
     
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    Wait, you already have LM and Fujipoly Pads? How is possible the cpu reach 90ºC even without any oc and got termal throttling?? Something is not right...

    @Donald@HIDevolution

    Can you take a look in this case?
     
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    It's totally normal on laptop this thin. And don't take in consideration the max temps, take the average. I reach 90C just like 2 seconds and drop to 85 and then 80.
    Remember that this laptop run at stock 4.0Ghz that is REALLY extreme for laptop.
    My Alienware was at his best 3.7Ghz and reach 100C.
    4.0GHz for laptop is insane. No need to overclock more.
     
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    In that case you should choosed a 8750H that can do 3.9GHz in 6 cores with temps around 80ºC. My doublt is how a laptop with LM and without OC can termal throttling, yes is thin but still seems strange for me.
     
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    Show me 8750H with 80C in game.
     
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    Ac:Origins on a GT75 8RG, not thin but are 100% stock in this vídeo.

     
  19. LUCKASS

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    Yeah haha, look at the thickness of this laptop, it's normal to run 80C on this beast, you cannot compare it to the x5.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Aorus X5 v8 Thermal Testing - Fixed with Undervolting?
    Jarrod'sTech
    Published on May 29, 2018
    The Aorus X5 v8 gaming laptop has some pretty epic specs, including overclocked Intel 8850H 6 core CPU and Nvidia 1070 graphics, but many people have been saying it runs fairly hot or overheats. In this video I’ll test the CPU and GPU temperatures at idle, while gaming, under stress test with stock fan speeds, maximum fan speeds, and then finally with some undervolting applied to see if the thermals can be improved to fix any overheating and increase performance.

    aorus 5 v8 chart 1.jpg
    aorus 5 v8 chart 2 cpu only.jpg
    aorus 5 v8 chart 3 cpu only.jpg
    Spoiler: -150mV undervolt @ 4.3ghz all core reduced temperature / and stopped power limit throttling issues.

    Unfortunately he's a bit new at this, and didn't provide a pure 100% CPU load to compare before / after undervolt temperatures, and only gave "gaming" load and AIDA+Heaven - both of which aren't pure CPU tests - this laptop shares cooling between CPU / GPU so load on GPU heats CPU up too.

    The good news is his other real world testing showed power limit throttling resolved, holding higher CPU clocks, and higher performance results in benchmark and games when load is shifted to CPU at lower resolutions.

    Not bad for a rare undervolt by reviewer. He came so close to perfect, now he just needs a pure CPU 100% load test to show temperature drop between stock and undervolt.

    Pretty amazing getting -150mV undervolt at 6 core 4.3ghz OC too :)
     
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    Nice at least a nice review with oc on 8850H, probably the first...
     
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    Just pulled the gun getting a fully spec x5 v8! Cant wait to test thermals on this bad boys with the grizzly paste.
     
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    You already got it? or you are still waiting for it?
     
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    Long waiting for it lols. Preorder till june dont know when.
     
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    ****e. :( Good luck with it :D Im still thinking the Aorus X5 v8 or the Aero15X. Its so hard to decide :( Any advice?
     
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    I dint like the aero due to the fans blowing upward to the screen. No one can explain the effects of long term hot air blowing towards the screen , which is a future potential problem.

    If you are ok with body flex , i suggest the msi gs65 instead.
     
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    If you want more horsepower, the X5 V8. If you want more portability, the 15X.

    That's really your main trade-off here.
     
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    Or if you need a 4k screen , only the aero.
     
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    What about future proof? I want a laptop that will last me around 4-5 years. And I am in love with both, but, the think that I more scared about is the temps in the Aero15X. What do you think?
     
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    My idea is the same as yours. Something that can last 4 to 5 years.

    Decided for the aorus as its using gtx 1070 instead of the max q version.

    If you are using it at home more , get the aorus. If you plan to take to take it out very often and use outside , get the aero as it also have optimus to save battery life.
     
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    Future proofing is one of those things that is impossible to predict.

    With that said, we can make some educated guesses:

    The Aero 15x performs within x% of the X5 V8. The main difference is better GPU as well as CPU(and overclockable). The x% better will depend on game to game.

    Do you believe this % difference is enough to offset 1 or 2 years of longevity?

    My personal opinion is no, you won't get any more meaningful life out of an X5 V8 than an Aero 15X. To put it in another way, from a pure performance perspective, by the time you find your Aero 15X unacceptable, it is most likely your X5 V8 will be as well.

    If an Aero 15x is getting only 25 FPS in a triple A game in 2022, then it is likely the X5 V8 is only getting 30, if you catch my drift.

    As for heat and thermals, this is a valid consideration. However, by most accounts I've read, the X5 and 15X reach similar thermal levels, with the 15X getting a little warmer on the GPU. However, both laptops have been seen spiking to 90c+ on the CPUs and as far as I've read on NBR, seem pretty similar in that regard.

    Laptop coolers, and custom fan profiles will of course mean these results can be influenced one way or the other.

    The hot air blowing on the screen is a good question, and I have no answer for you. I don't know what kind of effect this will have on the screen.

    Anecdotally, I can say after over a year, nothing has happened to my screen and I load my Aero 15 every single day with a variety of games.

    I think at the end of the day, you have to consider your margin of longevity and 'future proofing', and how much you can really account for that.

    5 years is a long time for a laptop; but it is doable if you take care of it. I am not certain by any means, this is my opinion, but I do not believe the Aorus X5 V8 is sufficiently prepared physically to outlast the Aero 15X by a margin of even 1 year assuming all else remains equal. The Aero 15X may require a little more tender love and care, and more regular cleaning of the fan vents, but beyond that, I don't see why it should be significantly less durable.

    One concern might be the hinge, but that is typically data we don't get until a year or 2 down the line. With that said, the Aero 15 owners lounge has no reports of failed hinges yet.

    So in that case, I think in your shoes, I would make my decision based off of the performance and portability profile I want the most, rather than trying to guess at +/- 6 months of extra longevity or what have you.
     
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    I would take it to college and go back and foward with it. So you got a point right there.

    OMG, thank you, thank you thank you. I understand you point and to be honest, makes TOTALLY sense and im glad that you took the time to write it. Again, thank you. I would say that this comment organised my ideas and gave me a wide and clear idea of what to expect and what to do with my choice. Clearly, Im decided to go and choose the Aero15X, I know if i want to have it for 4-5 years I will spend a bit more of time cleaning it but that something that I dont mind, actually the opposite, I enjoy it. Thank you again because you opened my eyes.


    PD: I forgot, you changed the thermal paste? or is the stock one? You bought more ram or something like that?
    Thank you again for your help and the time that took you to write this. I would say if one of the most useful comments that Ive ever seen.
     
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    Do you drive to school or take public transport? Or walk?

    I ask because I take public transport to work everyday, 2 hours in total, and the Aero 15 itself can feel heavy at times, and the X5 V8 is a little heavier. I'm not talking about a debilitating weight, but an annoying one. If you are doing a lot of standing around at bus stops or train platforms etc. then the portability might be worth a little performance to you.

    My first advice is don't take one poster's word for it. What I'm trying to say is don't just believe me as it is just my opinion. Read through the Aero 15 owners lounge, especially the last 30 pages to get an idea of what recent buyers feel of their laptop, and since your opinion is what is most important, you can make a more informed one :)

    Unfortunately there is not much information on the X5 V8 yet, but read what you can there, too.

    Also look at the alternative laptops that fit what you are looking for. The Aero 15X is not the only thin and light 1070-Max-Q laptop, and the X5 V8 is not the only GTX 1070 not-Max-Q laptop.

    In my case, I have liquid metal TIM on my CPU and GPU die. This is a service some retailers like HIDEvolution and GenTechPC will offer.

    Upgrading to dual-channel ram is definitely recommended if you can afford it, and if you are concerned about future proofing, if your laptop does not already have dual channel. (Dual Channel means both ram slots populated with identical DIMMS instead of just 1 slot populated. For example, 2x8GB instead of 1x16 etc.)
     
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    I will walk with it around college and usually a not that long walk from my house to college. But that doesnt mean that I want to have a desktop replacement :biglaugh: So yeah, portability is really appreciated
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    I was worried about the performance and you said that I wanted to hear. Because I was thinking that the thermals between those two in reality wasnt too far away and you said so I wasnt wrong. The performance really as you said is a tiny difference which I dont mind by the portability and the looking of it And that is where the another laptops 1070mq either 1070m look ridiculously gaming and flashy or with weird look. Example Zephrus, the MSI its okay but honestly I dont like that dragon. Trust me, I spend LOADS of hours looking for a non-gamer looking laptop. Result? Those ones. The Aorus one looks a bit but is not that flashy with weird accents. Honestly, your point was the last push that I needed to decide.


    For the doble ram sticks, there is not doubt about it, I will go straight with 32 gb to have the dual channel.

    One question about the LM, how many months(or weeks) you need to make a repaste of it? And how are your thermals in a demanding game? Sorry for bothering you, you dont need to answer if im being annoying with all this questions :mask:
     
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    I am glad my comments could help you. I do agree about gamery looks, and that's also why I went with the Aero 15. It's still quite an aggressively styled laptop, though, with the edge trim, but it at least isn't flashy.

    I purchased mine with the LM TIM already applied, but the actual process itself can be done in half an hour. e-Tailers times will vary so I can't tell you that, best to ask them yourself.

    My temps are in my signature for benchmarks (click the link), but for example in BF1, CPU is 86~87c average. GPU will stay around 78~79. This is on the gaming fan profile, but fans can be turned up even higher if you use a custom fan profile.

    However do keep in mind mine is the old Aero 15 so only a quad core and GTX 1060.
     
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    Okay, so they are decent temps for a laptop of that size and power. I`ll go with the Aero, Im 100 sure about it. Thank you, really. I`ll be in touch when I got mine.( First I need start saving to have it haha)
     
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    If you wanna have greater performance, huger disk space for game, also the best screen w/G-Sync or NVIDIA Surround built, go for X5
    If you wanna awesome mobility with the laptop and is not quite performance addicted, go for AERO
     
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    just received my laptop from HID and as expected its a beast.

    my unit managed to undervolt 180mv , max cpu temps are 79 to 80 under stress test, still gonna play with it more.
     
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    Glad to see more owners of the great machine!
     
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    I'm a X5 V8 owner too, but I think that the WiFi module it is not the best part.
    Anybody thinking to replace with a Killer 1550? One provider told me that it cannot be replace because the BIOS lock. Is that right?
     
  42. iPoohlio

    iPoohlio Newbie

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    I replace mine to killer with hid.
     
  43. Christopher Reid

    Christopher Reid Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think the Killer 1535 is a good card but something about this laptop's design hurts WiFi speeds.

    In my old laptop, I was getting 15mbps down on a 25mbps connection on the 5Ghz band from about two rooms away from the router.

    With the aorus, I was getting horrible speeds two rooms away, around 5 Mbps. I decided to move my setup one room closer and i only get 13mpbs down on the same band.

    Donald from HID helped me choose between the 1550 and 1535. I don't remember what he said but I think there were a few features the 1535 had that the 1550 didn't.
     
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    JAnguita Notebook Enthusiast

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    What card did you add to the laptop?
     
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  45. JAnguita

    JAnguita Notebook Enthusiast

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    I’m testing Aorus X5 v8 and MSI GE63 to decide which one to choose.
    The MSI is equipped with an Intel 9560 WLAN and downloading from Steam it reaches almost 600mbps (my Internet bandwith). The Aorus never passes 300 mbps.
     
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  46. redax

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    Anyone had the issue of the laptop not being able to shut down after pressing the "Shut Down" button? I'm using the latest BIOS according to the "Driver Update" software.

    I've tried resetting boot order, (there isn't any to choose from actually), and the "Intel(R) Management Engine Interface" thing that comes up on Google with no luck.

    Help!

    EDIT: Nevermind, figured it out. Had to disable "Fast Startup" in "Power Options". Not sure what software was causing this though.
     
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  47. weoul

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    After applying LM and undervolting reached 85C under 80% of load 3900Ghz 6 cores,at last! TDP around 55W
    Not too impressive but enough for me playing real-time 50fps RAW files from Canon C200 in DaVinci Resolve without throttling.

    PS graphic card doesn't infuence on CPU temperature (good!)
     
  48. Zubermen

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    Hi everybody,
    just pulled the trigger on a brand new X5 V8, and found right now this amazing forum, lot of discussion in particular on the thermals, can't wait to get mine! I'm here to ask your help, unfortunately Gigabyte does not more sell laptops to Italy so I bought mine from Germany, the downside will be the QWERTZ keyboard instead of the Italian QWERTY. Is it possible to switch physically the "Y" with the "Z"? And via software? Does Win allow you to remap the keyboard?
    Thanks for the help!! And sorry if already asked, searched but did not find anithing!
     
  49. Svegetto

    Svegetto Notebook Evangelist

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    I haven't tried to physically switch the keys; it's likely doable but you'd want to be careful to not break the mechanism.
    Yes, you can remap they keys with the provided Aorus fusion software.
     
  50. Zubermen

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    Thanks @Svegetto !! Will check as soon as will arrive!!
     
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