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    NEW Gigabyte P34 V2

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by IKAS V, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. Sebi97

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    What kind of laptop are you looking for?

    A laptop will offer 2 of these three things; pick 2
    Power
    Low Noise
    Slim
     
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  2. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Wait for reviews before saying this model will have fan noise, sure the last version had issues with the fans but hopefully they improved them in this new model.
    Don't get me wrong I hate loud fans as much as the next guy but maybe they listened to customer complaints and fixed them.
     
  3. hfm

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    Just wait for reviews of the v2, no one knows yet because no one has one yet.
     
  4. Sebi97

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    I really hope the fan noise isn't changed... That would mean the fans run slower and thus the laptop runs hotter, degrading all the components (specifically the non-replaceable batter). I don't understand why you guys are having issues with the fan? I have used the P34G and sure its loud when gaming, but otherwise, set the mode to quiet and you don't even hear it. When gaming, the cooler the laptop runs, the better. If you want (wouldn't recommend it at all) but set the fan profile to quiet when gaming...
     
  5. hfm

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    I like to game on the couch and a loud fan isn't in the cards for me. Razer did a fantastic job on the acoustics of the 2013 blade, im waiting to see thorough analysis of the p34g v2, gs60 and new Blade 14.. I'll buy whichever one wins the db under load battle. If the CPU runs to 90 and the gpu to 87 isn't concerning, it's within spec.
     
  6. Sebi97

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    Except that the razer will burn you.... check out this video at around the 6:30 mark
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQMINo2QOE
     
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    Please don't misunderstand me; I'm not trying to say your choice is wrong - obviously everyone needs to decide what is best for their own needs. I am just presenting an alternative.

    People complained about the fan noise due to a quad core i7 at max clock. You suggested switching to a lower power dual core. I merely suggested a way to decrease the noise while keeping the quad core. I answered as if noise were the primary criterion. You are now making single-core processing power the primary criterion?

    Unfortunately Intel hides the CPU voltage now, but in previous CPUs the voltage at minimum clock speed was the same or close to the same The ULV-ness of the ULV processors is predominantly at max clock speed. Basically all of Intel's CPUs can run at extremely low voltage at their lowest frequency. It's the higher frequencies where LV and ULV really makes a difference in power consumption.

    Power use of a transistor increases as the square of voltage and linearly with frequency. So if you assume the voltage increases linearly with frequency, power consumption then scales as the cube of frequency. So if the i7-4700HQ draws 40W at 3.2 GHz (all four cores max), you'd expect it to draw just 17W at 2.4 GHz, 5W at 1.6 Ghz, and less than 1W at 800 MHz (minimum). 2.4 GHz quad core @ 17W vs 2.9 GHz ULV dual core @ 15W. Your choice.

    Again, I'm not trying to say your decision is wrong. Everyone needs to decide for themselves what solution best suits their needs. I'm just saying that manual throttling the CPU really is an effective way to reduce heat (and thus fan noise). Give it a try before you dismiss it.
     
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    I'll be curious to see the prices and the specs for the other models once they're released.
     
  10. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    There is now way to draw only 17W with 4 core at 2.4GHz or 5W at 1.6GHz, maybe if two cores are disabled. Besides, than why is not coming these 17W ULV quad cores? Anyway I'll stay with 15W twin core, I do not need more CPU processing power.
     
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    Jeez that fan sounds exactly like the fan from my former M14x R2 anf M11x R3 where it sounded like a hairdryer on max settings. Even the clevo w230st didnt sound this loud.
     
  12. hfm

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    That's not the v2, but that's awful... Ugh..
     
  13. Sebi97

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    How else did you expect it to stay cool in such a small package? It runs cooler then the Razer Blade! Besides, if youi use headphones or have the volume up, I don't see why the fan speed would matter. And like I said before, if it angers you that much, set the fan profile to silent; that's why it's there.
     
  14. chris_laptopfan

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    Just to bring in my two cents: I don't wanna be forced to use headphones or turn the volume way up, just to get to an acceptable noise level!

    You are right in terms of temperatures. Of course this performance in such a thin laptop can't be cooled without any noise, but I can barely understand how you aren't bothered by such (hairdryer) noise levels like the p34g has under load?? :confused:

    Even if it would be ok for you to be forced on headphones (what is a No-go for me!), would it even be ok for you to be forced on headphones or to deal with that noise levels on daily (hardware intense) works like video editing like the guy does in the video?

    So, i REALLY hope, that the v2 is way better in terms of fan noise. I don't need a super silent laptop under load and i can deal with clearly hearable fan noise under load, but not THAT much :D On low load it should be quiet of course.
    I actually think Razer did quite a good job on their Blade and I haven't read about so many overheating razer blades, did you?
     
  15. Sebi97

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    Then you could set the fan profile to quiet :)
    I honestly don't think anything but the GPU has changed on the V2, otherwise they would have marketed it. If you aren't too concerned about weight/thickness, then there are better options for sure!
    As for the Razer Blade, it's alot more expensive and is heavier and runs hotter on the surfaces you touch. See the youtube video I linked earlier for temps.
     
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    hope you give us link about review of p34g v2 when it come out :thumbsup:
     
  17. nocry

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    do you mean the v2 GPU is better ? for being not hot so will be quieter noise fan ?
     
  18. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    The volume up or headphone is just not solution. The noise matters a lot, for example I'm already allergic for the HDD spinning noise (idle).

    The new Maxwell GPU are running cooler as the previous Kepler generation, so this part certainly generates less heat. However the CPU stayed the same 47W monster and that is lot of heat. I looking for review how underclocking can solve that issue and how will impact the performance.
     
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    That cpu was in the 90's with that hair dryer fan, I don't even want to know what would happen if the fan was ramped down.

    The 2013 blade had a relatively quiet fan and was within limits for heat. It's just vastly better engineered and designed in that respect. There can be zero question about it. Just don't touch the top edge where they contained the heat. :)
     
  20. chris_laptopfan

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    Setting the fan profile to quiet doesn't solve the problem, because then probably the cpu or/and gpu will be slowed down (throttling).
    I don't think the fan rotates under load higher than it would have to, because the hardware temperatures are relatively high. So if you set the fan profile to quiet, you won't get full performance and that isn't what you want, if you buy a gaming notebook :confused:
    In addition to that I expect a notebook to automatically control the fan how the temperatures require it, not more, not less ;)
     
  21. Sebi97

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    And thats exactly what it does! It regulates then fan speed based on the thermal load on the components. When the components are hot (and fan is 100%), then yes, the fan will be quite loud. However, if you wish, you can set it on quiet for the cost of laptop health and performance. I will say it again: In a laptop you pick 2 of these 3 traits

    Power
    Thin/Light/Portable
    Quiet

    The P34G and the v2 (Identical laptop; just with a GTX 860M chip soldered on instead) pick power and thinness. Its going to be loud at full load- that is a fact that will not be fixed without a major re-design.

    Now as for my opinion, I really couldn't care less about the noise, and quite frankly, this forum is the only place where its being discussed in such detail... When I'm at 100% load, I'm gaming and when I'm gaming, I have the speakers on or headphones in. A solution (If using this laptop at home/office) is to use a laptop cooling mat to keep the laptop cooler and thus the fans wont need to spin so much. Quite honestly, Gigabyte has done a really good job with these P3XX laptops. (Now if only they made the P34G v2 in black..... ;)
     
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    When will this be available on GentechPC?
     
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    Any chance we will be able to get the 64Whr battery version in the US? Xotic and Excaliber are both 47Whr with mSATA and 2.5" drive. If we can get the larger battery version that would seal the deal for me.
     
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    Same here. That's the version I am gunning for.
     
  26. nocry

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    today time to release p34g v2, hope we get fast review :D
     
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    Still waiting for it on newegg... I hope it's this week.
    Hope for the big battery version, but it looks like it wouldn't be an issue to change it to that battery once replacement batteries become available.
    Looks like the big battery version still has the cable for the 2nd drive, Quick reference link, that others have posted
    wonder if can fit another msata card in there and run raid 0 :D
     
  28. Sebi97

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    There MIGHT be a difference in fan noise. Comparing the insides of the P34G and P34G V2, we can see the V2 has different fans. Here are the pictures.

    P34G:
    P34G-05.jpg
    P34Gv2:
    View attachment 110620
     
  29. nocry

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    it seems lil loud than old version because fan has more wings or what its called:<
     
  30. Sebi97

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    More wings does not necessarily mean more noise. The blade angle is much more important. We will have to wait to see. When I buy mine, I'll do a review and look at this "problem" in detail :thumbsup:
     
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    I can't wait to see some reviews of this machine.
     
  32. Weirdcitizen

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    For Europeans interested in this machine - and insofar this isn't known already - yesterday I mailed Gigabyte Germany to ask when the P34g V2 would be made available in Germany. They answered, within the hour even, that they assumed it would be on the market in May.

    Guess I'll have to wait a bit longer to see some reviews pop up to compare the P34G against the MSI GS60.
    Never knew buying a laptop would test my patience like this... ;-)
     
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    Nice , I think that same date in Spain. I must find a distributed point in here.
     
  34. Geo44ke

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    Anyone know if we have any date for France ? they just don't reply to me ...
     
  35. onizou

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    Hi Geo44ke.
    It will be available in late April in France. Here is a link where you will find more information: Forum Hardware.fr.
     
  36. nocry

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    oh untill may ? its so much far to me
    should i buy Clevo W230SS/Sager NP7338 or keep waitting ? to see which one has less noise fan ?
     
  37. Sebi97

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    Keep waiting! From the picture I posted earlier, it is clear that the fans have been changed (maybe to quieter ones).
    It's a major investment, 3 weeks should not matter that much for something you wll use for years to come
     
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    ya correct :) i will wait then :) thanks a lot :D
    ill use it for diablo 3, maybe General
     
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    any news in reviews?
     
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    Any chance of getting it to run Raid0 ? :)
     
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    Here is a review from PC Pro that popped up yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvzg88Y8dZY.

    EDIT: They also mention 7 hour battery life. I wonder if that is with the larger batter without the 2.5" drive or the smaller battery?
     
  42. Sebi97

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    jeez those guys are ugly xD

    And most likely, that without the 2.5 bay. otherwise it would be downright amazing. I dont think any device with i7 can boast a 7 hour battery life being that thin and light
     
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    Jep, it's Maxwell.

    Gigabyte confirmed it here for example.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/att...206-gigabyte-p35g-v2-news-gigabyte-p35g-q.jpg

    As the p34g v2 only comes with one gpu option, the 860m, the gpu is soldered on the motherboard. And this soldered version is only available as Maxwell.

    Have fun with the device and please let us know what you think of it and tell us about the fan noise!! :)
    Maybe a short video showing the fan noise would be greatly appreciated!
     
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    Thanks for the info, I just placed the order then. It's a shame it's a weekend because it wont even ship for another 2 days, but I'll be happy to post my impressions when it gets here

    Thanks again
     
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    May I ask what online shop you'll use or have used to buy Gigabyte laptops (in Germany of course)? Thanks :)
     
  47. stamar

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    thanks im suprised the forum doesnt have a hands on owner yet

    this is one of three models out there with a maxwell gpu.
     
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    I've been looking at Alternate.de and Computeruniverse.net. I've also noticed notebook.de has Gigabyte laptops, but not their full range.
    These are the only sites I've noticed that actually do Gigabyte laptops (in Belgium I've not found any), but neither of them have listed the P34G V2 so far.
     
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    If you're in the UK overclockers told me they would have them "around june". Scan said they don't yet have an ETA.

    Any ideas where else in the UK may stock them?
     
  50. Coflash

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    I've been told it will ship out tomorrow evening, hopefully it gets here this week, Friday is a public holiday though (Australia) which might be the only thing that ruins that.
     
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