NEW Aero 14 w/ GTX1060

Thanks I just downloaded this and tried it out. Seems stable for me, did you only do the cpu offset or did you under-volt the cpu graphics processor also by chance? I am just trying to get this laptop to run cooler and have longer batter life until i decided to game with it.

 

I just did the core offset haven't tried the other settings but i did the cache also on my msi 63vr (same cpu) and it didn't make any difference, some people say do some say dont?

try it maybe, my temps are fine really so I'll leave it.

i seem to be rock solid at -155 but i get desktop freeze ups at -160 when loading a game

 

So i have turned of the emptyproject11.exe file by renaming it. Ran at -.155 for almost 2 hours and it is awesome for battery and coolness. I just changed it to -.150 because it did crash on me as i was writing this post the first time. Also setting the optimus to intel by default seems to be helping alot.

I am loving this laptop so much so far. Keep all the tips coming guys. Im glad we have a small but active community around this laptop.

 

Anyone know when GentechPC will get these? Looks like it's a preorder on their site and they have some nice extras this month. Narrowed down my search to this laptop or a Razer or MSI and it seems the Aero has great battery life and temps. But everywhere seems out of f stock.

 

GenTech and xoticPC had them in stock already they got them first. I waited till Newegg but yea they sold out everywhere pretty fast. I would message all the sites to see when they are getting their next shipments.

Also gentech did the one i boxing on YouTube.

Good luck finding one.


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Yeah it seems the orange and green are in stock but those colors....

 

The orange and green might show less finger prints than the black.

That might be the slight downside of shiny black aluminum.

But the black one with the tiny orange stripe is the one I got and it is damn sexy.


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I don't think it's a matter of accepting or not. All I said that those results wont be relevant to mine tests since they did their test without using the benchmark tool. But yes it would be very useful if someone could tell me what they get when they run the rise of tomb raider benchmark test. And yeah this fps boost using external display is very weird because it is also happening if I use HDMI as well.

 

I tried this and it didn't help unfortunately. I get extra fps on external display if I use display port or hdmi. This is weird and I can't tell why this is happening.

 

Apart from getting extra fps using external display, this laptop is simply amazing in terms of everything.

Temps are amazing after undervolting using throttlestop. -0.165v on both CPU core and CPU cache. -0.0908 on Intel GPU. Temps are usually around 35ish C while using chrome and doing random tasks but fan is set to normal mode. If fan mode is set to quiet (100% silent) temps rise up to the 40-45 C range. While gaming my temps went upto max 72C on cpu and 74C on GPU on laptop/hdmi. Using display port and forcing it at 120hz or 144hz, temps while gaming are around 78-80C range.

 

I just figured out that the whole click with one finger and drag with the other works on this TouchPad but it has requirements.

You can click anywhere, but that clicking finger needs to start in, or be moved to the bottom (1/3?) of the TouchPad before it'll respond to your other finger moving around.

 

Hey guys, I ordered aero 14 v6 with IC diamond paste. I heard this is good for keeping laptops cooler.
I was wondering; Do I need to replace this after some time of usage? if so how long?

thanks.

 

You should be good for ages with that, a good few years definitely

enjoy your new machine it's awesome btw.

 

I sent a support request to Gigabyte to ask about ordering some spare parts to have on hand for thin machine since I'm planning to keep it running for as long as possible. Specifically I asked about buying replacement cooling fans and the rubber bumpers. Will let you all know what I'm able to come up with.

I'm not sure how easy it will be to find parts down the line etc.

 

I have never used ThrottleStop, is it much better than Intel XTU, or about the same? Just curious if I am missing out using Intel XTU.

 

I ordered a green one from GenTech on December 6th and it hasn't shipped yet, so I'm not quite sure what their actual stock is. Unless it's that 1 cent tshirt promo that's holding up my order...(I hope not).

I'll post as soon as I get it, I'm upgrading from a Razer Blade and I'm curious to see them side-by-side.

 

I keep coming back to this laptop. It seems to have great cooling, thin design, great battery life. Am I missing anything? Are there better alternatives for those attributes?

 

Not in my mind, if battery life is in your decision matrix I think this takes the cake. It is why i picked it. So far i have easily gone for 6+ hours every day on battery with some peaking at 8 hours of usage.

Another big plus, if you want thin and light you rarely ever get an upgrade-able system and the fact i can throw an nvme in it and an extra 16gb of ram is a huge plus.

 

Not really. Aw13 qhd OLED. So there's that vs battery life which is probably double if users are actually hitting 8hrs on the aero.
The only thing missing is that you haven't got your wallet and bank card to hand lol


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I don't know if it's any better but I just prefer it over XTU. You do however have the option to disable a lot of settings such as disable turbo, turn off speedstep, and etc.

 

I've gone to the dbrand site and requested they make a skin for this system. Hoping everyone that has it here might do the same ️

 

I can get 8 hours with wifi ON

Dave2D reckons it will actually game for nearly 2 hours on battery, I've yet to test this ! Lol

But after a quick undervolt it never goes above 85c even after 4 hours solid gaming, so at last I don't need to re paste plus it's so damn light but feels pretty premium due to the metal top and bottom. The qhd is nice enough to make me live without the OLED.

It's pretty much the only ultra book out there with a 1060 (the blade is a joke compared to this imho)

 

Is the top of the laptop, completely flat and square like in the picture? I was thinking of using a skin by decalgirls to cover up the green on the surface.

 

Don't forget the aorus x3.
But seriously only 2hrs battery on games despite 8hrs? It's still good. But I'm sure my p34w I owned lasted about that with just 4hr battery. I still think this laptop is sick! If I never had aw13. I think I'd be buying this as option 2 with the aorus x3 or msi gs43 as choice 3


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Exactly my current options, unless someone knows of anything else! Hoping my AW13 I just ordered will be okay, but if it becomes way more trouble than it's worth then I think I may just spring for the Aero. But I admit, Dell has some pretty good sales sometimes which is one of the reasons why I'd pick an AW.

 

Playing a modern title on battery for 2 hours on battery is amazing most laptops won't get past an hour my Alienware 15r3 managed 45mins

Be interested to see how long the AW13 can last, fancy trying it for me ?

For me 14" is the smallest I can go, really hoping when the yields for OLED panels get better we can start seeing them in 15" and above.

At the moment yields are less than 50% across all OLED screens but it can only get better

 

Are you ruling out aorus x3 and aw13 because they are "13" as opposed to 14"?
Honestly there's literally NO difference because it's a bit bigger than 13" it's just marketing. The aorus is actually 13.9".
I'm not sure of the exact size on aw13. But that OLED though. If you can get a 14" aero for the same money a 13" aw with OLED then it's no brainer really because I've owned 13-14" laptops since 2011. That's my size now. And only difference between each notebook is design real estate. Some 13" are literally a 14" size. They have built 14" so tiny it's "supposed" to be same size as 13". Point is the only thing different you will notice between the 13-14" is its size. Not the screen size.


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I personally don't like the way the Aorus or AW offerings look. The AW 13 is basically the same size as the black MacBook I just stopped using. ️

 

I actually ordered orange on Dec 7 from GenTech. They said they'll ship early next week. So, I doubt they have any in stock

 

This is why I waited for NewEgg to get them in stock and snapped mine up as fast as I could. The customizer builder company websites like xoticpc and gentech are really bad about saying if it is actually in stock on there sites and you usually have to chat with them to find out real stock levels.

Dont know how long it will take for newegg to get their second shipment, but as far as I know Amazon has not got their first shipment yet. So I would keep track of that webpage also. https://www.amazon.com/Aero-14Wv6-B...8&qid=1482334866&sr=8-1&keywords=aero+14&th=1

 

Can't wait until the new 860 EVO pcie ssd's become available (a Canadian retailer lists them as ETA Dec.. so hopefully soon). I was debating bumping up to 32GB of RAM, but would probably prefer an NVME drive first http://www.anandtech.com/show/10698/samsung-announces-960-pro-and-960-evo-m2-pcie-ssds

They are almost the same performance as the 860 PRO, but at a 25(ish)% discount. I think a 1 TB NVME would be a pretty nice upgrade I'm already starting to fill the 512 gb with games, and the SATA drive doesn't even come close to the perf of the latest samsungs NVME's (over 3k MB/s read times.. wow)

 

I'm not rubbishing the AW13 it's awesome and the OLED is impressive no question. (it's 13.3 btw)

Alienware's quality control of late has been terrible there's no question of that if you have a good one then that's great but the last 3 I've had have been shocking.

For me it's the weight and battery life, my note book travels a LOT and i can go to work use it all day and leave the power brick at home, i barley notice its in my bag.

I did consider the aorus but it's just too pricey for what you get plus i wanted WQHD resolution as that's the max i wanted to push the 1060

To say there is no difference in screen size isn't quite true though, I would and do notice the difference. That's just me you may think I'm crazy lol....

 

a good upgrade for sure but only due to space, i have a 1tb 961 in my aero

as for speed it's purely an eepeen thing i have 3300+ read speeds on mine but i wouldn't give a ***t if it was "only 600"

just sayin but i have a 850 evo sata in my desktop which tops out 600mbs read and it loads games and windows pretty much exactly the same within a second anyways.

Looks good on crystal disk though..

as for the "pro" drives dont get me started on those... lol samsung are really bending people over with those....

 

Any thoughts ont he Aero 14 vs the Aorus x3 v6?

 

Ah nice, yeah doesn't look like I can find a 961 in Canada yet either. I'm surprised you don't notice any difference over a SATA drive; I've heard there isn't that much difference from say a 950 pro to a 960 pro, but that it can be noticeable vs SATA drives. Ah well realistically you're probably right I don't know if there's often that I'm actually sitting around waiting on the SSD. 1 TB does sound nice though. I'm glad to finally find a laptop I want to keep so I'm definitely thinking about maxing it out (within reason, 2 TB nvme's seem to basically cost as much as the laptop itself, lol)

 

I suppose your points and the other guy is fair enough which leaves you with the aero. I suppose you can notice a screen difference thinking about the p34w I had and the w230SD (14"vs13.3") but I it's slight. The aw13 though appears bigger than 13.3" but the laptops where both the same width. I can't say I've any problems with my aw13. Did you have 3 aw13 r3 or just 3 in the past of all versions?


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Yeah M2 interface looks to be the main format boot drive going forwards.

I think as with all things the 2tb will half the money soon enough but then we will all be after the 4tb's...

check this out, i pretty much find the same thing....

 

No I had 2x 17r4's and one 15r3

Before that i had great experiences with dell, XPS 12 & 15 and alienware m14x 13r2 and 17r3 all great built really well

I've heard good things regards the 13's build quality compared to the 15/17 but oled screen is built and installed differently to IPS/TN panels so you wont get the bleed problems that can arise with non glare panels.

I think the 13 is only AW i would buy right now glad you pleased with yours. I love the look of dell's oled PC monitor but no G-Sync and $5000 its out of my league ....

 

I looked into the issue of getting better frame rates with an external display and it seems to be related to Optimus.

From what I'm reading it seems like the built in panel is attached to the Intel graphics chip and the nvidia one has to go through it to push frames to the laptop screen. When using an external monitor it is directly connected.

Also explains why Optimus can't be used with gsync screens on laptops.

I'm just unsure if there's a hardware limitation at play or if it's driver related. It would be interesting to see what a Firestrike test result is on an external display vs the internal panel.

 

your wish is my command... hehe

internal panel
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11163367

Connected over HDMI
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11163442

And Displayport!
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11163535

So It seems to use only the 1060 then it has to be display port

 

Yeah I think you are right, it is probably optimus related. I think my aero 14 is defective tho. I just got the aorus x3 v6 today and compared it with aero 14 in terms of performance. I seem to get around 76fps in the rise of the tomb raider benchmark test with aorus compared to 66fps in aero 14. However, like I mentioned when I use external display with aero i get around 74fps in the test. When I tested aorus with external display, i got 78fps so I guess external display does help a little. It's shame that I will have to return aero 14 because thermals on this machine is just too good. Aorus gets pretty hot, so far getting 75C in cpu and max upto 86C in gpu

 

Besides the GPU performance, could you give your impressions of the Aero vs the x3? Thanks.

 

What did you do to boost the score? I was getting 9650 out of the box.

 

i have it set up so afterburner starts with windows and runs a modest overclock of +175 mhz on the gpu core and +300 on the memory, all my pc's have their graphics overclocked. makes no difference to temps if we don't adjust voltage (which we cant in a notebook 1060 anyways)

After a LOT of testing i found my particular chip was best at this setting I mean i could go higher a lot higher over 200/500 but it made scores and performance drop off. for 175/300 is rock solid stable and the sweet spot.

I read somewhere the reason for drop off at the higher memory overclocks on pascal cards is due to the very good memory "error correction", where in the past maxwell and before the error corection was not so good so card would just crash

now they arent crashing as much on the high overclocks but the error corection is working overtime actually reducing performance. so super high clocks arent nessesarily the best thing with pascal. It's all about finding the sweet spot so to speak.

of course im probably wrong.... lol

 

The lack of thunderbolt 3 is the only issue I have found with this machine:
- While largely impractical, would it be possible to replace the wireless card or something similar with a thunderbolt 3 card? Otherwise is there any other solution to get thunderbolt onto this machine if it really became necessary?

 

I'm not sure what I would use thunderbolt for... Most guys I've seen discussing it want it for possible future external GPU stuff.

USB 3.1 is fast enough for any storage needs I can comprehend. But if I'm missing something please enlighten me ️

 

I agree with bruor, what would you use it for? The only thing that the areo is missing is external GPU in the future. But I am planning on using this 1060 for a long long time.

You cant replace the wireless card to make it thunderbolt 3 compatible. But there really isnt a need, it has great usb ports and display port to boot.

 

The idea behind the thunderbolt was for future-proofing against the need for a gpu upgrade and if thunderbolt-speed storage devices become cheaper / faster. Fair point on the 1060 being in use for a long time, it does seem very capable for a few years at least - and upgrading it in the future would likely mean spending a good portion of the price on a new laptop anyways if that was the situation.

Besides not using external gpus, are there any other reasons anyone can think of why not having thunderbolt will be a real issue in the next few years?

 

does the laptop get loud when watching youtube in high resolution?

 

Edit: I misread your post.
Other than egpu, and in the future, with more devices going to be supporting tb3. Aero 14 will be missing out but I doubt the Aero will lose it's current functions because it becomes outdated