NEW Aero 14 w/ GTX1060

I've never used throttle stop is it any good? I've read it can be buggy

and why drop the cache volts? just asking... and whats your cpu boosting to(max frequency) when in occt using throttle stop?

i thought the best way was using intel XTU

do you play the division? i find this game creates more heat than anything

 

According to several posts around here it's recommended or at least suggested you set same level on CPU Cache as the core themselves but I'm just doing a copy of what someone else posted here that was working for them.

I haven't seen any issues with thermalstop yet, I'm partly using it because it was mentioned I should use it over XTU on Discord.

Max OCCT shows is around 3310Mhz with it averaging around ~2800Mhz.

http://www.ultrabookreview.com/10167-laptop-undervolting-overcloking/

 

Thanks for the link I think I'll compare the 2 now see which works best.

Point to note my CPU maxes at 3.5 average is 3.1 that with a straight -0.125 core , 150 will be the next test for me

My msi 63vr had an awesome CPU it could under volt -190 stable

 

Dude you are awesome just ordered one!

 

Heads Up,

XOTIC PC - Just posted there Full Review of GIGABYTE AERO 14WV6 onYoutube.



Mine should be coming soon cant wait.

 

I dont get why the difference in spec from euro to US ?

uk = 512gb Nvme SSD
us= 512gb M2 sata SSD (this looks like a big downgrade but in real world use its nothing)

uk= 16gb ddr4 2400 mhz 2x 8gb
us= 16gb ddr4 2133 mhz 1x 16gb (an easier upgrade to 32 gb just purchase one more stick)

uk= Intel 8260 dual band AC
us= ?? generic dual band AC

are they made in different countries?

be interesting to see what panels they all have ?

my UK one is a
Monitor Name: LG Philips [Unknown Model: LGD049A]
Monitor Name (Manuf): LG Display LP140QH1-SPF1

 

Yea the differences kinda piss me off. But it is few hundreds more for the uk model even when you remove the vat. But it would be nice to have win pro and nvme but i can always upgrade later and have a pretty kick ass external ssd. And i was happy all the us models have 1x16 gb so i can double easily.


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I'm a bit concerned on the cooling system. It's just like my ASUS ultrabook which pushes heat through the hinge and up to the screen. Wouldn't it damage the screen especially on gaming sessions wherein you have hot air blowing on it?

 

I'm also wondering about that.. ah well nevertheless I have mine ordered and should get it in a few days.

 

honestly im super happy with my laptop. the one thing nagging me is the small amount pf backlight bleed at the bottom of the screen but i dont think itll bother me once i get used to it. other than that, it can play dota 2 at max settings in 1080p in quiet mode (fans barely audible), gpu at cpu both around 60-65 degrees which is very impressive. I know the game isnt taxing but still, wasnt expecting such a smooth experience.

it does get louder when playing the witcher 3 but its more of a whooshing sound and not that hard to get used to. have yet to experience it overheat and it stays super quiet when not gaming.

i give it a 9/10 so far, i usually have serious buyer's remorse (and always consider the option of RMAing it when I'm not convinced) but this time it hasn't crossed my mind yet.

 

If you watch some of the youtube review on the previous version. They mentioned that the fan pushes hot air out through the back not up against the screen like the ASUS.

 

Nah my screen doesn't get overly hot and i've just had 3 hours straight on division! with temps at the max the whole time, this little things a Tasmanian devil of a laptop

The hinge gets hot at the bottom on the right and left but not the screen

 

so with firestrike and the fans set to gaming i scored a 9625 max gpu was 73 and cpu was 74, fans sounded as loud as the razer blade during idle

 

Wow awesome, mine comes in Friday.. can't wait!!

 

So your comment caught my attention real quick lol. I have a Blade 2016 and its a mini jet engine, it drives me nuts. Is the Aero really that much quieter? How is it at idle?

 

The best way to see if the Aero is louder than the Blade is to look at 2 reviews from the same person/site with the same testing methodology.

Dave2D on YT measured his blade at 50db and the Aero measured at 60db from the same position, for example.

I'm definitely interested in hearing opinions on the Aero noise and sound profile.

 

Anyone try running Linux on this yet?

Even if you're not a *nix person ... maybe you'd like to tinker for an afternoon and try wiping Windows and then a clean install of Ubuntu 16 Curious about graphics performance, WiFi, and battery life. If you try it, please post the results!

 

One thing I'm super curious about is battery life on Linux, because the Aero already has an enormous battery.

However, I don't know what wireless cards the models use, and from what i hear, if it's Killer, good luck with Linux?

 

From what I gather, you can expect only ~10 to 20% less battery life on Linux vs Windows if you optimize things a bit.
And for Wifi Killer is indeed notorious on Linux but there have been also recent driver developments that may or may not have solved issues pertaining to the unit that is in the Aero 14 . If not, it is inexpensive to get an Intel one and replace it yourself, I did read about a fellow who runs Linux and did this wifi swap on his first gen Aero 14.

 

in silent mode the fans turn off if you are just browsing, but yea the fans are way more quiet, mine does have a little whine to them but not as bad as the razers. I just did mythic emerald nightmare on 1440p and 5 settins and the fans are really quiet it stayed at 60fps and high 50s low 60s.

 

tomorrow ill run the tests next to each other and do a video for the noise comparison.

 

they are using the intel 8260.

 

Well razer went and just shipped me a new blade anyway even after i gave them 3 days notice to cancel....

may as well do a side by side comparison, dont know how the return to razer will work though when they wont even answer emails.

 

that would be super useful . it amazes me, given how many people are looking for such laptops, that it is so hard to find professional comparisons. I would love to know how noisy the razer is compared to the gigabyte (at similar levels of performance, I do not care about the "maximum" fan level if it is never required in practice, how the screens compare etc...
so I would definitely be grateful

 

CPU 70c GPU 66c

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16673759?

dont think a blade is gonna come close

 

wow! thats a lot. how loud were the fans while doing it?

 

If they give you any trouble. File a claim with your credit card provider. I'm ure they will revert the charges once you send them copies of your cancellation email and show they still shipped 3 days after.

 

They were not bad at all I'd say at 50%

But that score is with +175/300 on the gpu and an undervolt of 155

Reckon this will do 10k with a bit of Coaxing

 

How are you undervolting?

 

So i did 3 videos, one with them together and 2 individually to hear the sounds coming from them. Razer was definitely hotter, and the fans weren't as high, but the aero had a higher pitch to the fans. Hopefully this helps out.

(both)
(Razer Blade)
(Aero 15)

 

Just with XTU moving the core offset slider to -0.155 haven't tried any lower yet as temps are perfectly acceptable

People have noted though the lower you can get can actually increase gpu benchmark, because there is less heat dissipation across the heat sink which is directly joined to the gpu so it allows the GPU to boost more

 

Are you still keeping the gigabyte?

 

im probably going to order an alienware and see the noises.

 

So it's louder and higher pitched but cooler? That's not good... Maybe i should get the razer instead and return my aero, the alienware is just too bulky for me

 

Also, is that just under full load?

 

Ok I re phrase that choice of just these two which one would you keep?

The aw13 is just too heavy smaller screen and the build quality is a lottery to get an acceptable one, so I'm out on that one

 

Ill keep the Aero, they both make noise on load its given they both have high pitch noises, but the aero fans actually turn off when low temps, the blade stays at 40 percent and its really annoying to listen to the whine of the fans when im just reading forums.

 

Yeah I think the idle noise on the razer would be a deal breaker for me too

Is there nothing that can be done with that?

Anyway razer have sent mine so I'll see for myself Friday I think also people forget the much better battery in the aero which was my main reason to try it, and so far it's been great

I'm gonna put them side by side and stream Netflix and which one dies first and by how much

Which screen do you prefer btw?

 

they both look real nice, I perfer the 1080p screens over 1440p. Even though the pixel density is higher you cant game comfortable with that card, and scaling to 1080p is not all that pretty. I am taking mine back to best buy on saturday, let me know if yours has the fan problem. It could be some faulty hardware. If so I will just exchange it out and see if it works better. I dont really care about firestrike scores. I play wow and a games like witcher which it handles it fine. I game a lot on PS4 now. But if I am out in the field I can throw an oldie on it and play games and watch movies. I just don't want the fans screaming high pitched and constantly on all the time.

 

From those two videos the Aero does sound like it has a less appealing noise profile. Thanks a lot for making those vids, @quickie

 

You are welcome, It does have a weirder fan noise, but it the fans do turn off. In firestrike I got the Aero up to 9625 but the Blade was only 8800ish. The blade was throttling even with a -155mv undervolt. I doubt you will use that much power in normal gaming but for it not to even hit 9k That is pitiful.

 

As an overall package the Aero does appeal to me more (especially because of price), despite the weirder sound profile. I won't be gaming in a room full of house guests or something and I can always use headphones.

Having to do a bunch of tweaks to get the Blade up to 9k is unappealing.

But it *is* a strange noise, while the Blade seems to have a more traditional whooshing noise, albeit also high pitched.

 

You can get 9k scores on the blade if you use throttlestop to disable BDPROCHOT

 

I put the fans on cool settings and got 9200

 

well had a chat with razer on twitter, i just need to refuse package and it be returned and refunded no charges.

so i wont be doing a comparison after all, I will keep the aero.

For what i need it to do it's awesome.

My fans dont seem as bad but it's hard to tell on a tube video, I would say they have slightly lower tone but who knows.

They are both very nice laptops but the main decision points for me are;

Blades battery life is about half that of the aero (not what i want from an ultra/gamer).

The blade throttles and you have to mess around just to get above 9k in FS? I know , I know its only a synthetic bench and all but still it's the lowest scoring 1060 notebook on the market that says something.

The fans spin up all the Time even in idle, wtf razer??

Razer support is frankly shocking, their support forum is a joke they just "insta delete" 99% of all post that's slighty negative.

Thats not to say the aero is perfect it's not it just performs better is silent at idle last for ages unplugged and a lot cheaper for what you get, and as a bonus it comes without Killer networking (personally cant stand it).

 

Yay! My Aero 14 came in a day early. Just got back from picking it up. I just finished updates and am starting to install some things to try out. Here are some early impressions on my fairly brief introductory use. I'll preface it all by saying I'm generally happy with things so far.

I'm relatively happy with the keyboard, the travel is a little shallow but I like how the keys feel a little 'clicky' in their feedback. I'm still getting used to the minor layout differences. The touchpad is good enough (for elan). One minor nuisance with the touchpad is I can't seem to use my drag and drop approach I've used on other touchpads (where I click down with one finger and swipe with another to drag around); I'm forced to either click down and drag around the same finger (which is difficult), or do the 'tap and drag'. This is generally fine as tap and drag works ok enough, I just realized I'm used to the other approach that no longer works. Oh well, ideally I will use a mouse for more serious usage anyway.

Other than that the form factor is good, it's certainly light enough and almost unnecessarily thin. I say that because it feels like the machine is longer than it needs to be (or I guess depth, if discussing in terms of height, width, and depth). The bezel under the screen is huge (like literally 1.5") and when compared side by side with my 2012 MBP it actually has the same measurement in depth as the MBP which is housing a 15.6" screen. I may have preferred it being slightly thicker and having a bit less depth, but I don't think it's a deal breaker.. in a way it's kind of nice having the screen raised up a bit higher so maybe it's not so bad.

I did already notice the sound of the fans as they spun up while I was doing some installs/windows updates. I have to agree that I don't really like the sound, it's almost a little too high pitched and 'whiny'. At least when I'm just poking around on the web (and writing this post) they are off, but they certainly spin up when doing stuff like installs and it's enough to make me want to wear headphones.

Ultimately the main thing I will base my decision on is whether or not I see any stuttering in performance, like I was with the 3 MSI laptops I tried before this (two gs63vr's and a gs43vr). Other than my nitpicks above (I'm pretty picky when it comes to laptops), I'm still really excited about the amount of horsepower combined with battery life that can be packed into a machine of this size. There's a lot of things gigabyte did right, including the lack of bloatware that comes pre-installed.

If things keep running nice and smoothly then I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep this little guy!

 

One thing that is a little weird, the end of the power cord that plugs into the computer.. it has this weird little thing on it. I took a picture to demonstrate: http://imgur.com/V1zxyWG

Anyone else get this? What's the story with it? It looks like some little plastic housing with a small part of the cord wrapped around it.. not really sure what purpose it serves. It kind of looks like it could be opened, just not sure if I want to mess around with it much. Anyone know what it's for?

Edit: Ok so yeah it can be opened and removed easily enough.. really curious why it was included and what benefit there is to leaving it on there..

 

Looks like a "ferrite core". Purpose of which may be to reduce interference from the cable to some of the other components.

 

Ah interesting, I guess I've seen something similar in other power cables but this is the first removable one I've seen. I ended up taking it off and I guess maybe I'll leave it off until I see any kind of issue. I don't notice any coil whine or anything which is nice. Thanks for the info!

 

Well did a couple of matches of Rocket League and it runs pretty good! No noticeable stuttering, which is a huge relief (I'll have to do some more tests but I know I felt the stuttering right away on the MSI laptops whereas it's so far so good on this guy). That being said it does heat up quite a bit though. The CPU in particular hit 86 degree max, whereas the GPU hit 76 degree max which is a bit better but still pretty warm (The MSI laptops would have both CPU and GPU around 82 so I guess CPU is warmer and GPU is cooler). I guess I should have waited for GenTech to get more in stock so I could have had them replace the thermal paste. Maybe I'll look at picking up some and trying to do my own; it would be nice to get the temps down a little bit (oh right I should try undervolting and see what happens..)

I do wish the panel was 1080 just for better FPS.. Rocket League runs ok at 1440 but the scaling to get to 1080 does seem a bit noticeable. I guess I'll always have to decide on the trade off between lower frames or a sharper image in-game which kinda sucks. If only there was still the 1080 option. Basically if the fans were a little less noticeable and the panel was a 1080 I think this would be the perfect machine. As it is I'll probably still be pretty happy to keep it.