Gigabyte P35g V2 News

I'll be curious about the temperature on the P35g V2.

 

Can't remember from where I read, but the temperature of the P35W v2 is running at a pretty good temperature for a thin laptop.

Running Assasin Creed 4 max temp on auto fan is around 88c, while on max fan is 82c.

10 minutes Furmark stress test max temp on auto fan is around 84c, while on max fan is 76c.

Talking about the GTX 870M GPU temperature.

 

If the P35W v2 isn't super loud (my concept of acceptable loudness is my G73 from Asus) and the hands on reviews of battery life are good I think my next laptop will be a Gigabyte cause of the ODD, 2 mSATA drives and # of usb ports.

Now I just gotta decide between GentechPC and XoticPC, or maybe I'll wait for some reviews of the P25X v2 and get an 880M :O

 

So the P34G v2 should be lower? Doesn't sound too bad then. If the fan noise isn't too bad, maybe I'll overlook the Kepler aspect and go with the P34G V2.

 

It is. At least on the gpu.
GIGABYTE P34Gv2 - Video Review by XOTIC PC - YouTube

The fan noise i'm not completely happy about though. Constantly jumping up and down and the maximum stage is quite noisy.
Therefore i'm unfortunately a bit concerned about the P35W v2 as i expect similar noise levels and fan characteristics on that device, but HOPE to be proved wrong...

mh, 88 °C may be not a bad value for a 870m in such a thin chassis, but in general it's a very high and to me borderline temperature, even if it's a bit lower than on the MSI GS60/70, which however are faulty designs to me...
What does it help, if under certain circumstances the gpu reaches the 90°C mark and higher and therefore throttles down the gpu and shorten the lifespan of the hardware, but we can say: "But you know, it's sooo thin. Therefore the temps are relatively good."

I wished we had at least a few alternatives, which weren't going the "super super thin" way but instead using simply a "normal thin" chassis with an 870m and therefore with more thermal headroom, uncritical temperatures and no throttling.
But that wouldn't get such a flashy shiny label like "thinnest gaming notebook in the world"

 

You may easily reduce the temperature more by disabling the CPU turbo boost, since the CPU and GPU shares the same heatpipe.
It may affect most of the games performance by just a bit, and some by a bigger percentage but not too high(highest should be around 15% reduced).

I used to own a thin Vaio S13P laptop with an i7-3520M and a GT 640M LE(overclocked at 100%).
The temperature gets quite high due to the hot i7-3520M. But after disabling the CPU turbo boost, the temperature got reduced significantly.
It was like having a thin and light(1.67kg) laptop with a GPU performance of a GT 650M DDR3. Quite rare at that time.

Thickness of the laptop doesn't always play the biggest role in the heat management.
The cooling design plays an important role too.

Well, let's wait for more review before praising or criticizing too much on this laptop.

 

Great, I meant to mention the P35G v2 instead of the 34.

 

My P35G v2 is arriving on Thursday, so I should be able to give some impressions if Ken hasn't done a video by then.

 

Hey, I've been wondering, is it possible for this thing to drive two or three external displays? I'm assuming i'd be one via hdmi, one via VGA, and one via minidisplay port. Can it drive two displays and still keep the laptop screen on? I know on my G73JW you have to turn one the laptop display off to drive two external displays.

I feel like I'll have a hard time gaming on a 15.6" monitor after spending so much time on a 17.3" laptop and before that a 24" monitor, if I choose to make a monitor my primary display will I lose some performance compared to if I was gaming off the laptop display?

 

Hi GenTechPC,

Looking at this as I wasn't too thrilled with the GS60 except for its screen. Can you tell us what screen is in the P35G(W)?

Thanks!
N

 

Will love to hear your impressions such as its temperature and fan noise. I'm hoping it will run cooler than the MSI GE60 Apache Pro.

 

Ge60 is known for terrible cooling so if it doesnt that'd be a pretty big problem

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Just got mine and spent some time setting it up. I ordered from Gentech with the free upgrade to 12GB of RAM, new thermal paste, and without the hard drive because I bought a 480GB SanDisk Extreme II SSD to install myself.

What I've noticed so far:

—Screen seems good, but both Windows and Gigabyte's utilities have everything scaled up by default. After I figured out how to disable that, everything looked much better. It probably needs some calibration.

—Love the design/build, except for the way it shows fingerprints. It feels fairly sturdy, and doesn't have gaudy gaming branding anywhere. It does have a lot of generic stickers that I need to figure out how to remove.

—Noise-wise, I couldn't even hear the fans during normal usage. When I manually set them to max, they were really, really loud, but I'll be able to say more when I try out some games.

—The wireless card is not what Gentech and Xotic say it is. They claim it's single band, but I was able to connect to a 5Ghz AP. I'll try to figure out exactly what it is later.

—Speakers seem okay. Not great, but maybe good enough. If this is anything like the P34G v2, I may need to go mess with some equalizer settings.

—Touchpad is actually Elan, despite what it says on Gigabyte's website. It's worked fine enough for me so far, but this is the first laptop I've owned since the iBook was last produced. I have no idea what I'm doing with touchpads.

I'll install some games and look at temps tomorrow. Is there anything specific anyone would like to know?

 

Max GPU/GPU temps after a 3dmark11 run would be nice, to compare against the GS60.

 

First, die you get the p35g or p35w?

I'd be interested in battery run times, temps and how sturdy the front side is where the optical drive bay lies. With the predecessor, according to reviews, there's been a fair amount of flex because of the removable drive. In fact, even in the video I saw it looked like a little bit more pressure would have led to break the chassis. If I remember correctly the video was from gentech

Thx

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Battery times under light use and gaming temp are definitely things I'm interested in!

 

Temperature when gaming, noise when idle

 

I think I remember GenTechPC replying in a comment of that video that the chassis problem has been fixed by Gigabyte.

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I haven't noticed any flex at all due to the optical drive's location, even with the spacer in its place. And I too have read elsewhere that the initial problems with the P35K chassis were fixed in subsequent production runs.

 

P35W V2 running 3DMark 11.

Picture got from another chinese forum.

 

I got the P35G.

HWMonitor isn't showing me GPU temps for some reason, but the CPU temp reached a max of 85 degrees while running the basic version of 3dmark11. This was with the Auto fan setting, and it got very loud. The keyboard still felt fine, though the chassis was especially hot up near the speaker grill.

I think the wifi card is the Intel Wireless-AC 7260.

 

Thanks for the review. I am interested in knowing the following:

1. Noise and heat when idle or light load (browsing, etc...)
2. Noise and heat when under heavy load
3. Build. Does it feel solid? does it have any flex. The reviews of the P35K made it look like it was a fine sheet of crystal that will bread apart if you look at it the wrong way.
4. Gigabyte website says that it has wireless AC, and display port, while Gentecpc website says that it has wireless N, and do not mention display port. I assume that Gigabyte website is right. Could you confirm that

 

1. So far, I can't even hear if the fan is on under light load. CPU temp is around 50 degrees. I can feel some heat in the back on the bottom, but nothing bad.

2. Gets really noisy under heavy load (sorry, don't have a way of measuring). Gets pretty hot, too. CPU was 85 degrees after running 3dmark11. It was still bearable on the keyboard, but everything near the speaker grill felt very hot.

3. Feels solid enough to me. The only flex seems to be in the screen portion of the notebook, which is very thin. The initial P35K had some problems, but gigabyte fixed that a long time ago. I feel very comfortable picking this up with one hand.

4. Yes, it has both wireless AC and a mini display port.

 

Thank you for the impressions so far. So you can confirm the wifi card is the Intel Wireless-AC 7260? I'll be interested in hearing the battery life too. How's the keyboard? I"m wonder how the MSI GE60 Apache Pro compare to this in terms of temperature and everything.

 

Good to be back to forums.....
So last year I bought the p35k cf2 from gentech and it was awesome I did an unboxing and review and all that...
But then this year came and boom p35w v2 shocked me with it's gtx 870m I need to get that ASAP haha I just can't believe how powerful it is. It's literally same specs as the p35k and even same hardware except the video card.
I sold my p35k and just kept my 8gb ram, my msata 128gb, so I cbs install them in the new p35w I'm buying.

If you guys want to see a full review of the p35w v2
I found a Chinese website that has millions of pictures and tests. Look at it
科技速報-你不得不知的科技新聞: T17討論區

 

My Apache pro hits 77° CPU in a 3dmark11 run without the coolerboost. I have read about crazy 90's temps though. It has to be something about the thermal paste.

I find 85° for a simple 3dmark11 pretty toasty.

 

I got the IC Diamond repaste, so I was hoping for something better :/

Could it maybe be different fan profiles? I was only looking at the absolute max temp before, but after running it again, the actual temp immediately after running 3dmark was only 73 degrees and the fans only went up to max a couple times during the test. I also figured out how to read the GPU temps, and those were 81 at max, 70 immediately after.

When I turn the fan to max for the whole test, I get CPU max of 80, GPU max of 73, and both are at 63 immediately after.

 

That's what it says in Device Manager.

 

More about heat/performance/noise:

I played Tomb Raider for an hour this afternoon on Ultra at 1920x1080. The CPU hit 91 and the GPU hit 85, but I'd Alt+Tab out every so often to check the current temps, which were always at about 80 for both. The palm rest area stayed cool, and the keyboard was good in the WASD area. The game played really well with the fan only occasionally hitting the very top speed. And even at top speed, I could still hear the game's audio fine through the speakers, which I had the volume all the way up on. I'm pretty happy with all that.

I also noticed that when the laptop is plugged in, the fan tends to stay on at a very low setting. It's not very audible except in a really, really quiet room. Temps when plugged in go anywhere from 50 to 62ish degrees. When on battery, the fan seems to mostly stay off and that's when I've seen it sticking more to the low end of 50. There's probably some throttling going on, but I don't know how to check that.

Next up, I'm going to benchmark Tomb Raider and Metro Last Light, because I have those and they come with benchmarks, and then I'll take it off power and see how long it lasts with some light use. I'll play around more with the touchpad, use the keyboard more, and set up a color profile.

 

Gentech, XOTIC PC and ExcaliberPC all say that it's Single Band b/g/n. I wonder if GIGABYTE gave them the wrong information.

 

On gigabyte website it does say:

"Wireless LAN: 802.11ac/b/g/n"

 

On GIGABYTE website they also say it is a Synaptics touchpad, but it turned out to be a Elan. Overall the specification info is not super accurate.

 

@crawnit and all the other owners:
In the p34g thread people most offen say that the trackpad is by far the greatest weakness of the laptop. However, they managed to improve it a little by using Samsung drivers for the elan touchpad. My question:
Does the p35g/w also have an elan touchpad and what is your overall experience with it? Would you share the opinion that the touchpad falls behind the otherwise excellent machine?

Thx

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to answer your questions loves

 

and it is 100% elan touch pad and the website has been a lie since last years models haha

 

I can't really compare the touchpad to much else, but it's growing on me. I had to mess around with the sensitivity, and after some practice, I've gotten pretty good at single taps for clicks, two-finger taps for right-clicks, and three-finger taps for middle clicks. I don't always hit the two-finger and three-finger taps just right, but I don't know if that's me, the touchpad, the driver, or the touchpad settings.

The touchpad has a clickable area at the bottom that's pretty terrible to me because I haven't figured out how to click from there without also accidentally moving the mouse pointer. The palm rejection is also terrible, in my opinion, until you turn on a setting that actually just disables the touchpad for 750ms after the last keypress. That works really well. Though even without that, the palm rejection was still better than a generic Dell laptop I used to have from my work, where I'd end up with all sorts of accidental clicks while typing.

Edit: In case it's not clear, I'm happy with the touchpad, but I'm also a novice user and don't expect the touchpad to ever be as comfortable as a mouse.

 

Battery test is finally done. I got 4:15 on battery at 40% brightness, except for a brief time at 100% when I was doing monitor calibration. Nothing actually needed to be calibrated though. I didn't have to change a single setting.

I started off last night, downloaded and installed some programs, browsed reddit on Chrome, typed for a bit in LibreOffice, watched some youtube videos, watched a little bit of a movie across my network, then put it to sleep. Today, I continued browsing reddit and watched about an hour of youtube videos. Both bluetooth and the keyboard's backlight were turned on for about half of that until I discovered how to turn them off. HWMonitor and PeerBlock were also running almost the whole time.

So is 4:15 a good battery life under those conditions? I dunno. Seems good enough to me though.

The keyboard took some getting used to. I was mistyping a lot at first because I'd accidentally hit between the keys. I could almost never hit the period key. However, the last post I made was on the laptop and I don't think I hit a single wrong key.

I also did benchmarks on Tomb Raider and Metro Last Light to compare to the results here:
Review Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M Maxwell vs. Kepler - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

For Tomb Raider, I got 43.3 fps on the Ultra preset, same as what they got.

For Metro Last Light, I got 27.7 fps on Very High, compared to their 23.7 fps. 27.7 is very close to the 28.6 they reported from their Maxwell test machine.

I also have Far Cry 3 and DotA 2, but didn't want to deal with UPlay for Far Cry and didn't know how to get an fps reading from DotA.

Edit: Almost forgot to mention the speakers again. I thought they were fine while playing games the other day, but I had to strain to hear while playing a video file, even with the fans off. Of course, from watching movies on friends' laptops, that seems to be how it is for all laptops.

 

and what type of screen it is, manufacturer and model? thanx

 

All I know is that it's IPS.

 

can you use HWinfo and read the screen info?

 

Windows+E (open up file explorer)
Right-click This PC
Manage => Device Manager => Monitors
Right-click the monitor name
Properties => Details
Change drop-box to Hardware IDs
Tell us what you see

That's actually a bit disappointing. I just did a battery rundown on a GS60 I'm test driving, and got 3h 45m web browsing and watching youtube videos @ 30% brightness. The GS60 has a 52 Wh battery vs 75 Wh for the P35G, so I was expecting at least 5 hours, if not 6.

 

Ah, I see. My screen is an LGD040E

 

Google suggests that's the same panel as used in the Dell Inspiron 15-7537. That screen doesn't perform that great in sRGB coverage.
Review Dell Inspiron 15-7537 Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

Since you have a colorimeter, can you tell us if it looks like it has better gamut than the Dell? Sometimes manufacturers put out multiple versions of the same screen with different capabilities, so even if it is the same screen it may have different color performance. (For color gamut, it's more a matter of the backlight.) x and y coordinates of red, green, and blue would do if your software doesn't give % sRGB.

 

When I said I was calibrating mine, I just meant I was going through the windows utility and doing it by eye. I don't have a colorimeter.

 

So why exactly do people prefer this over the y50? Y50 has it beat in bang for buck as well as maxwell vs Kepler GPU. The advantage of the p35g is IPS screen compared to (unconfirmed?) TN screen for y50. However even if y50 is TN I'm not sure it'd be worth it still...

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I like the look of the P35G a little better than the Y50, but that's because I prefer very simple designs. The P35G is also very slightly thinner and lighter, it technically has way faster wifi, and it has a mini display port (I think that's still better than HDMI?), a subwoofer, a numpad, a very very slightly faster processor, and a dvd or bluray drive. The P35G also seems to have way more options for additional storage. It's all up to whether any of that is important to you or not.

The Y50 does give you more memory and storage for less money though.

 

Its thinner even with an optical drive? If that's true then that would indeed be a substantial advantage. Its a shame it has the Kepler 860 instead of the maxwell though or I would give it serious consideration

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It's roughly 0.08 inches thinner and 0.3 lbs lighter, so not thinner by anything very noticeable, but it's definitely impressive they managed to put an optical drive in it.

Forgot to also mention that the P35G comes with a two year warranty, versus the Y50's one year warranty. The downside to the P35G warranty though is that the battery and power brick are only covered for a year, which is kinda lame.

 

Damn it, I just got told by someone at XOTIC that it was going to be Maxwell.

Good thing I checked here first

Thank you guys for saving me.

 

Thank you very much for answering all our questions, crawnit. So it seems the P35G V2 runs a bit cooler than the Apache Pro or at least comparable? The 77° CPU finding by Tiner was interesting since I read a bunch of stories about the Apache Pro running rather hot from the owner's thread. Also the battery for the P35G V2 seem to last a bit longer so at this point I'm thinking of going with the P35G V2 even if it costs more.