***Gigabyte P35X owner's lounge***

Please read through the thread before throwing mountains of question, many of what you asking has already been answered before.

Off the top of my head, I can tell you that the build quality is fine, very similar to that of a Macbook but less "premium" feeling. Battery can last between 4 to 6 hrs when not gaming, maybe 2 hrs when gaming (never tested). Battery charged just fine, whether gaming or not, and noise is at minimum when not plugged in, make it perfect to use in a silent lecture hall, barely audible even when gaming. But it gets loud as soon as you plug it to the power socket.

Regards

 

I think I might also be getting the issue with cpu stuck at 1.6 or below, it seems to happen as soon as I click on the windows battery icon on task bar to view power profiles, as soon as I do this it gets stuck. Reboot and stay clear of power icon or just use the gigabyte power options and all is fine. If this sounds the same and anyone can figure what solves it would be appreciated, will try hibernate disabled later.

 

After waking the laptop from hibernation and stressing the cpu it had no problem adjusting the multiplier from 800Mhz to 2,5 Ghz. As soon as i plugged in the power supply it jumped to 3,4 Ghz and then back down to 1,6 Ghz and stayed there even when i disconnected the power cord. Definitely a software issue with the BIOS and/or the EC.

I don't mind running throttlestop in the background as i was going to do that anyway for the undervolt after i repaste it ( still not sure if im going gelid gc extreme or liquid ultra, as i have both). If it doesn't give me any issues during gametesting on the weekend I'm keeping it.

 

Are you trying to run it above 1.6GHz on battery? I believe every laptop with an Intel CPU will throttle the CPU down while unplugged to avoid frying the battery, it's perfectly normal behaviour. Now, if it is doing that while plugged in then that is an issue.

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I was plugged in when it happened, it sounds like its a problem with the power profile?

 

Just ordered a P35x V3 guys, expecting delivery next Tuesday, will post back with my thoughts. Looking forward to the performance in such a slim package!

 

Who did you order from that you will get it so soon? Some guys here are on back order.

 

Apparently in France we have them in stock, my reseller told me that I will have it next week

 

They're in stock here in the UK. It's weird that it seems to be the only country to have plentiful stock right now.

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Hi Guys,
So I've read through a majority of this thread, and it does seem there are a few issues in regards to reliability.
But my main concern lies within the given temperatures of the components, such as the CPU. I'm actually going to be considering the P35W V3, but the two seem fairly similar apart from their graphics cards. Anyway, I understand the CPU reaches temps of around 90C, with the gpu following close behind. I understand that as a result of these high temps, there is some thermal throttling. But what I am not quite sure of is, will the high 90c temperatures affect the longevity of the laptops lifecycle? I thought thermal throttling was a really bad thing. I guess it is in that it reduces performance, but I forgot to factor that it's doing that to try and reduce the high temperatures. Will the cpu undergo high temperatures in normal day usage? Or even under light gaming scenarios such as playing league of legends? I want this laptop to last me for some time, and it does seem to be fairly nice, although those 90C temperatures sort of do worry me!

Cheers,

 

The short answer is: no, not really.


The long answer: According to Intel these cpus have a safe operating temperature of 100 degrees celsius. Now keep in mind Intel's spec already contains some safety margin since every single cpu has minute differences causing them to differ in efficiency and reliability. Now gigabyte decided to override Intel's setting and set the CPU to throttle at 90 C, which means you get an additional 10% safety margin on Intel's safety margin ( whatever that is). Macbooks for instance dont have this additional safety margin and operating temps for a Macbook easily go up to 95C at load (and a Macbook has basically no GPU compared to the p35x ). So it should be fine.

 

What reseller is that?

Is it in any way possible to up this limit to 95°C, for example with throttlestop?

 

I don't think so unfortunately. There a "BD PROCHOT" setting that can eliminate throttling of the CPU if the system is setup so that an overheating GPU will also make a non-overheating CPU throttle, but I don't think the P35x is set up like that, and also that's not relevant because the GPU doesn't get that hot. No, I think the thermal throttling limit of 90 degC is unavoidable.

 

Okay, so it's sort of okay to run at 90c temperatures but its not recommended? It won't have a major effect on the longevity of the laptop? Will the cpu reach higher temperatures than 90c if it runs longer than say 2hrs while gaming say Battlefield 3 or 4 or just having a long gaming session? Does the type of game matter as to whether or not the cpu overheats? Or is it only demanding games?

Cheers,

 

While it's not ideal to run it at max, it isn't going to be affected by it. The cpu will only exceed 90 by 1 or 2 degrees, as it will get a little hotter before itshe throttling cools it down. The cpu will only overheat in somewhat demanding games, but I don't think there is any list of what those are.

 

It wont reach higher than 90 degrees because that´s the throttle limit set by Gigabyte. Maybe 91 for a very short period before it goes down. In all my tests it raced to 90 quickly and then stayed there.

I tested:

Shadow of Mordor 3K and 1080p Ultra
Planetside 2 3K and 1080p Ultra
Battlefield 4 3K

PS2 at 1080p Ultra was the only test where the cpu didn´t throttle (well, a little there too).
None of the Mordor tests seemed to be affected performance-wise by the throttling, as in no apparent stuttering. PS2 and BF4 at 3K was a rough ride.

 

Ldlc,I wrote them because they were displaying it as in stock, apparently it is. I ordered then, and order on its way.

Edit: it is the 3k version, and with the code for 7% discount (somewhere in previous pages) it brings it down to ~2050€

 

Yeah I posted that code . If I go to ldlc now it says it's out of stock.

 

Haha no I see "only one remaining"

 

Can someone clarify this for me pls? While running 3d mark, and monitoring with intel ETU i did see some thermal throttling, however this throttling didnt cause the cpu frequency to drop. It stayed in the range of 3 - 3.4 even though it showed a couple large throttle spikes. I thought that i would see large spikes in frequency loss at the same time as the throttle spikes but this was not the case. Is the monitor not accurate? or is my understanding just lacking? Why should i care if the cpu throttles if it doesnt cause the frequency to drop?

 

Can you post your results? So we can see what is exactly happening

 

It might just show 'throttling' to indicate that the CPU is not running the full all-core turbo (I think 3.4Ghz for a lot of CPU's in the P35x), but it could still be above the base clock at that point (2.5GHz base clock?).

 

im not sure how to post the ETU graph, but the cpu frequency line stays fairly straight with maybe a couple very small spikes up and down through out the benchmark, stays over 3 ghz the whole time. The thermal throttling line has a couple large spikes up to 50% for short times. These throttle spikes dont seem to effect the frequency line tho. If someone can tell me how to post graph i will. I will have to rerun test tho and hope for similar results

 

Well my temps did hit 90c so im tempted to believe there most likely was some throttling unless its just a coincidence that it stopped at that temp.

 

Yes, it's just showing that it's throttling due to temperature (trying to stay under 90 degC), which is why it decreases it's frequency below the full all-core turbo (3.4Ghz I think). That's what it's showing.

 

I think i found out how to post graph ill rerun test and see if i get similar results to post

 

This test did result in some frequency drops, however they dont really happen at the same time as the throttle spikes. the frequency is the orange in case u cant read it and the throttle is the bottom aqua line This graph makes alitte more sense than the previous one but still i would think the frequency drops would be at the same spots as the throttling

 

What is your cpu ?

 

i7 4710 hq

 

Ok, maybe the benchmark of XTU is not that stressing? Did you try other ones such as 3dmark or unigine heaven?

 

That was a graph of the 3d mark bench mark all of them firestrike, skydiver, cloud gate, ice storm all the primary tests

 

Okay! Then it does not show the dramatic peaks to ~800 MHz MrNajsman was seeing during his tests, even if he had too a 4710hq.

Edit: maybe XTU doesn't have a sufficient refresh rate to see these throttling peaks?

 

Im not sure but on first run of the 3d mark the frequency never fell below 3 ghz, in the one that i posted i think the lowest it fell to was 1.6 but cant remember exactly what it was. As to whether or not the monitor is accurate i have no idea.

 

This is the example I am talking about. Maybe you can try his monitoring software?

 

Sure why not, what is it Generic log viewer 3.0?

 

I think so, it is a part of hwinfo

 

Might have been Power Throttling rather than temperature throttling at those points, that's my best explanation for a few of those large drops in frequency that don't coincide with the Temperature Throttling peaks. You would get better results by undervolting your CPU to reduce power loads & also temperatures. (Those two drops in frequency might coincide with the Physics and then the Combined Test in Firestrike - portions where the CPU is loaded close to 100%).

 

Did you do any modification yet (repaste, underclock...)? Also, what were the conditions of benchmark (laptop laying flat on table, propped up, laptop cooler)?

 

I was also monitoring power throttling, its the blue line that looks similar to the thermal throttling line, it also didnt occur at the times the frequency dropped. And yes i had IC diamond put on. No laptop cooler on not propped up, just sitting on a flat surface. stock clock and volts.

I found the monitor he was using but i cant figure out how to use it sorry. If i do figure it out i will test it.

 

Do not be sorry, what you do for the thread is already awesome!

 

Ah, ok, in that case I'm not sure why it dropped frequency sharply at those points - maybe the benchmark wasn't using the CPU much at those points & it decided to downclock to save power & temperature. (Even though CPU utilisation stays pretty level according to the graph, I think it's in relation to percentage utilisation based on the current clock speed of the CPU).

 

Thats possible i guess, im just glad it only went down to 1.6 instead of bottoming out and i havent seen any evidence of throttling causing any problems in performance, no lag or stutters during the benchmark. I guess that would show wouldnt it? They all seemed to run pretty smoothly although the most taxing ones ran a lower fps it was pretty consistent.

On a different note, if anyone knows of a decent laptop skin that fits this model pls let me know where i can get it.

 

For information and comparison, how did your scores compared to the previous scores posted here?

 

This is my firestrike score didnt save the others

 

Yes, it would probably be quite evident at those points if the CPU performance was needed at the points where it dipped down to 1.6Ghz.

 

Gaming Laptop - 3364
Gigabyte P35X - 6465 ( More than double that)

This proves it ! This is not a "gaming laptop"- those are big, ugly things, lit up like a christmas tree , this is an "enthusiast laptop" - an elegant machine capable of great performance

 

Well it is not the p35x here for this score, as he has a p35w v3 with the gtx970m... The p35x shatters it even more at 8000 or 9000 (sparkle999, oc'd)

 

Mine showed the same behaviour. XTU sometimes claimed there was throttling but yet there was no change in clockspeed.

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Apparently, newegg has it in stock, just received a notice by mail

 

Newegg has P35X V3 CF4 in stock !
However they don't ship to Israel
Screenshot attached. Here is the link:
GIGABYTE P35XV3-CF4 Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7 4710HQ (2.50GHz) 16GB Memory 1TB HDD 256GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 8GB GDDR5 15.6" Windows 7 Professional 64-bit(pre-installed) and Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit(upgradable) - Newegg.com

ENJOY ! send some feedback on shipping and gaming. I honestly don't need any more graphs and benchmarks, I'd rather hear real-world gaming sessions. Only if there are problem I'd be interested in accurate graphs to pin point issues.