***Gigabyte P35X owner's lounge***

Did you ever try disabling your ethernet adapter (not the wireless one) in device manager and see if that fixes anything? Like I said before the sole source of my DPC latency spikes on my desktop came from the motherboard's Intel ethernet adapter, and once I disabled that there were no more spikes.

 

2.6ghz quad core + 980m inside 0.8inch form factor (that seems pretty stable), i really dont get what else people are expecting? Sound stuttering is clearly a software problem anyways. I honestly think it is solid machine and kudos gigabyte for making it happen, unlike AW putting that ULV inside similar form factor..

 

Any one know when did the P35X V3 plan to launch in U.S? Before Nov.27, the Thanksgiving or after it?
I was planned for a MSI GS60 4K ver., but it turns out several key issues it had. So I turn my idea on GS60 064 or the 3K ver., but then I saw the P35X V3, I say wow...
So interesting on it, but I won't be in U.S during the Christmas, consider the shipping time, I have to know when it launch, thank you.

 

Well said! And you get the added bonus boost clockspeed all the way up to 3.4GHz for 4 cores in certain games too! It can get there, I've seen it happen in certain titles without throttling. Games that are not CPU-light than Crysis 3. Sound stuttering is definitely a software issue as a quick Google search will reveal thousands of results about audio popping DPC latency issues.

I believe Xotic PC should have theirs by 25th November

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Na, it's fine, I was being a bit of a pedantic *ss! If you test it, let us know if disabling the monitoring software lowers the DPC Latency & if it cures the audio popping/audio stutter in Crysis 3.

 

I use native 100% scaling in Windows and around 125% in Google Chrome, depending on the website. Everything is super duper sharp. I love the added desktop real estate on the screen. Icons and text of course, are very small though. Compared to my Clevo display, in terms of pixel density, there is a noticeable difference and also considerably more desktop real estate to play around with, but it almost entirely depends on which scaling settings in Windows you are willing to accept. I can manage with it at no scaling but not everyone is like me and it's a personal thing on what is right for you. Even then, sometimes very late at night when I'm really quite tired I struggle to read the small text at zero scaling!

My advice is that if you think you definitely will need a lot of scaling in Windows to make things legible/manageable for you then I'd go for the CF2 1080p option. The two biggest advantages of this resolution; sharpness and desktop real estate are nullified to a great degree when scaling is employed. Ask away if you want to know more

The most important thing you need to control temps is a good cooler. Out of all the 'modifications' I've done, simply having a good cooler stand made the most difference. The rest are just bonus, not necessary

They've already reviewed it in German. So very soon an English translation will be available. Or use Google translate if you can't wait!

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

Ah, in that case you probably want a 17 inch laptop, with great cooling. Asus have some really good cooling on their bigger notebooks. I personally would buy this one if I was gonna buy a laptop now (although you can't upgrade the GPU later as the MXM modules are different to other manufacturers - but to be honest you can only really upgrade graphics cards in some Alienware/Clevo/MSI): Asus G751. Yeah, so I'd buy the G751, here's a thread about it, I think it looks great too, with solid build quality:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...us-g751-coming-maxwell-gtx-980m-gtx-970m.html

 

They have posted the German review. If you have Google Chrome, you can do translation in browser, or use google translate: http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Gigabyte-P35X-v3-Notebook.129549.0.html

 

Anyone know how long the battery lasts when web browsing and other less demanding use? On the p35x

 

Probably about the same as the P35Wv2.

 

In the notebookcheck test, they get 6 hours in the idle mode. So i guess you get 5 hours with wlan .

 

The speaker connector gets easier to take off with every attempt. Thanks Cakefish.

So I got my 1TB yesterday from Amazon and they sent me a 500gb instead. Had to go to my local Fry's Electronics to get a Samsung 840 EVO 1TB msata ssd. The msata will take a 1TB and it works great.

So now I have a Samsung 840 EVO 250gb for OS, 1TB 840 EVO for Apps, Games and my Home folder and 1TB HDD for storage in which I'll probably upgrade to a Samsung 2TB HDD down the road. Also, going to upgrade the dvdrw to bdrw one day.

Got done with drivers installation last night before bed and will install softwares at work when I'm at my desk instead of being out in the field.

Got everything ready for the weekend when I repaste the TIM and mod my CM Notepal U3 with 3 120mm's Noctua fans and a fan controller.

Probably do a few tests and benchmarks then start playing FFXIV ARR and maybe D3 if I'm time permits.

Sadly, GB hasn't responded to me asking for the install files to Smart Tech since I would like to have them on my system after a fresh install of W8.1 Pro instead of using recovery to get W8.1.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

 

Great, just before the Thanksgiving, thank you for reply.
After seeing more reviews, I may start preorder the P35X V3

 

The pricing has done nothing but going up and up. I guess the demand is huge.

Btw, It's been a week since I had my laptop, not much time to test it, but I am not seeing issues and it is a beast!

Temps are the same as we can see in previous pages. The GPU stays well under 90C and most of the time under 80C while playing, and the CPU is the one hitting 90C easily.

Performance is awesome, screen is awesome. The only annoying issue is some software not being 100% ready for being escalated and it pixels even the text (ie tweetdeck).

 

New BIOS is out! FD07. No word on a changelog tho.....

Here you go:

==== BIOS ====

FD07 / F007 (Official): http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/base/P35v3wb/P35V3_BIOS_B07D07_EC_007_WIN81_UI.exe
High Speed Mirror: http://data.freek.ws/public/gigabyte_p35x_v3/P35V3_BIOS_B07D07_EC_007_WIN81_UI.exe

FD07 / F007 (Beta): same as Official
High Speed Mirror: same version as Official

==== UTILITIES ====

Smart Update 2.3.6 (Official): http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/SDA/Smart_Update_v2.3.6.exe
High Speed Mirror: http://data.freek.ws/public/gigabyte_p35x_v3/Smart_Update_v2.3.6.exe
Smart Update 2.3.6 (Beta): same as Official
High Speed Mirror: same version as Official

Smart Switch 1.5.2 (Official): http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/SmartSwitch/SmartSwitch_1.5.2.exe
High Speed Mirror: http://data.freek.ws/public/gigabyte_p35x_v3/SmartSwitch_1.5.2.exe
Smart Switch 2.3.0 (Beta) http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/SmartSwitch/SmartSwitch_v2.3.0.exe
High Speed Mirror: http://data.freek.ws/public/gigabyte_p35x_v3/SmartSwitch_v2.3.0.exe

Smart Manager 4.3.9 (Official): http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/SM/SmartManagerV3_Ver_4.3.9.exe
High Speed Mirror: http://data.freek.ws/public/gigabyte_p35x_v3/SmartManagerV3_Ver_4.3.9.exe
Smart Manager 4.4.3 (Beta): http://driverupdate.gigabytenb.com/SM/SmartManagerV3_Ver_4.4.3.exe
High Speed Mirror: http://data.freek.ws/public/gigabyte_p35x_v3/SmartManagerV3_Ver_4.4.3.exe

Incorrect! "The DPC latency utility runs on Windows 8 but does not show correct values. The output suggests that the Windows 8 kernel performs badly and introduces a constant latency of one millisecond, which is not the case in practice. DPCs in the Windows 8 kernel behave identical to Windows 7. The utility produces incorrect results because the implementation of kernel timers has changed in Windows 8, which causes a side effect with the measuring algorithm used by the utility"

I'm a perfectionist as well. Please do let us know how you fixed this.

 

@luisgibe - wow, you're right, price is now £1919.99 - makes the 1799 price I bought it for look like a good deal in comparison. All in a week's timeframe. Glad I preordered when I did!

@ freekers - awesome, so no need to get OCD over those program results

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

You lucky folks, you will get to install dragon age soon on those badboys!

 

Far Cry 4 is out next week. That's the one I'll be playing over the next few weeks

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

They probably increase the price before black Friday/ cyber Monday deals and reduce price during sale period.

 

That makes sense! Sneaky sneaky haha

Though I notice that CF2 is still at the same price of 1599?

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It might be because of exclusive nature of cf-1, i guess their initial order might be almost depleated, and they might be trying to make the most out of it?

 

Here's the result:

Aka it doesn't run for me

 

I did this last night before I went to bed, now my laptop won't stay booted for more than a couple mins at a time. It does the Win8 bluescreen and I don't have time to troubleshoot. It may have nothing to do with BIOS though, and may be related to me trying to add custom resolutions, which I was trying to add a custom monitor INF.

Not enough time to troubleshoot as I am at work, but frustrating to say the least. All I wanted was to add the 2560x1440 to the built in display since it is fairly standard and 16:9 like the screen. I found out that I was unable to add ANY custom resolutions no matter what settings I chose. A quick google shows a lot of others have had this issue over the last few years too. I thought the resolution was to modify the monitor INF to show that resolution but nothing I have tried ever gave me the choice in the resolution drop down menu.

 

I know CakeFish likes the 3k screen, but I would love to hear from the newer owners about the 3k screen especially regarding 1080p since that will be the typical content I view on it. I don't see any other laptop out there that provides the looks and hardware like this laptop. Just need to decided if the 3k is worth an additional $200.

 

The 3K screen is quite good. No real issues with it. Havent tried 1080p gaming, but its not on my to-do list for finding performance kinks. Since I dont have work today and have parts coming in, I should be able to do a few tests today.

 

Hmm, sorry to hear that. I was able to update without any issues tho..

One question: Does your Smart Manager also automatically open the Sound Control Panel?

Thanks!

 

For those that got there p35x from overclockers, I called today about the free game, pick your path, and received my code by mail a few minutes ago.

Far Cry 4 here I come.

 

Notebookcheck said panasonic panel is excellent interpolating to 1080p

 

I contacted overlooked earlier in the week and they were will g to give the cf1 at the original price, just had to call them to place order.

 

They keep telling me they can't give me a code because it is only for desktop GPUs! I've emailed them twice about this now. ?!

I've already preordered FC4 for £8.49 through other means (won a Amazon gift voucher) but this is really annoying me now. I could still get ACU for free (unoptimised as it is, a free game is still a free game).

 

I was able to boot up and remove the monitor custom INF I created. I played shadow warrior at 3k off battery for about 30 mins and no issues. I'm not going to call it solved for sure until I get home and have a chance to put it through its paces. It could have been my 75mv undervolt, but I had it on all day yesterday so it doesn't make sense it all of a sudden caused issues.

It does not open up anything additional when I open the smart manager.

Figures, we asked about it a while ago and they said no, so I bought it the other day from gamestop with a discount code.

 

Can't believe Cakefish's laptop has gone up to £1889.99 (launch price was £1799.99). This is lunacy.

GIGABYTE P35X v3-CF2 (Ultraforce), 15.6" FHD Anti-Glare, Wide Viewing Angle, Intel Core i7-4710HQ, 8GB DDR3L, 128GB mSSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, NVIDIA GTX980M 8GB GDDR5 - Windows 8.1 [P35X V3-CF2]

 

Like I said a few pages ago, I also got a free code. I just mailed them and got a code without issues.
They can't deny you one now I guess:


Cakefish/dajohu/hallengreen; Does your Smart Manager V3 also automatically start the Sound Control Panel?

Thanks.

 

It's currently £1919.99. So in the space of a week or two it's gone up by +£120! Ouch.

 

Well us early adopters should get something for all the extra time and effort playing games! I mean working on reviewing and reporting things.

 

Hmm quick question then, for 3k owners, would setting it to 1080p have the same effect as using a 1080p screen as far as CPU/GPU performance?

Like for instance I get a laptop with a 3k display, but for gaming I set it to 1080p, would I technically achieve the same frame rates as I would in 1080p had I picked a standard FHD screen? Or would there still be some slight offset from the down scaling?

I'm debating now since I play most games in Fullscreen-windowed mode so I can easily alt tab, though if I did that in 3k ( IF it wasn't full screen I'd drop some frames ) granted this wouldn't be an issue now but makes me almost think FHD in this case would benefit me more.

Either way appreciate any incite/info on this.

 

Yes it should run the same framerate as if it was connected to a true 1080p screen. We could test it easily enough connecting though an external 1080p display.

There is only one 16:9 resolution available between 1080p and 1620p and it's roughly 2048x1152 (Cakefish lists it somewhere). Its a little irritating that 2560x1440 isn't available as it's 16:9 and far more standard than 1152p is.

 

How would you test on an external though, seeing as the igpu is what's used for anything external it wouldn't give the same result as if using the dedicated sadly. Unless Gigabyte found a way to disable optimus O.O?

As for 2048x1152 I recall that from him and that it looked much better than 1080p, though I'm just worried @ running the desktop @ a nonnative.

 

Hi guys,

For anyone who currently owns the machine, what's the build quality like? I'm currently using a 15 inch 2010 macbook pro and I upgrade every four years; how would you compare the build quality to a macbook pro and do you think the laptop would be able to survive four years (until my next upgrade)? I really don't want to drop 3,000$ on the laptop only to have it break in 2-3 years. I travel a lot with my laptop to and from university so I understand there is wear and tear but I generally take very good care of my laptops.

Thanks!

 

I igpu is used for the internal display as well... No video gets out without going thru the igpu first!

It seems to have very good build quality to me, with the single largest downside in build being the keyboard not being completely flat. I wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't read about it on here, and honestly I don't really care about it at all. I mention it because I know a lot of folks do care and it could be a dealbreaker.

 

I don't quite understand. Are you saying if I want to use external display for gaming Optimus somehow won't permit the laptop to use the 980m?

 

I saw those pictures, but I couldn't really see the problem. Were the ASDW keys bubbling upwards?

 

Optimus works the exacty same way through internal or external display. Both have to go thru the ipgu at minimum, and both can be set to use the 980m (which just the video output goes thru the igpu after the 980m processing it)

 

To my knowledge/been taught from other gurus on the forum/read up on this is untrue since external displays are limited due to optimus however internal wise you can use either for games and applications unless something has changed.

This is one of the main complaints on optimus which thankfully the p751zm wont be using.

 

Optimus is just a battery saving technology. Its meant for mobile people.

As for the HDMI output, is it straight from card or from igpu?

 

I can tell you games will play exactly the same on an external display as they do the internal, exactly the same FPS and settings. This is assuming you set the GPU to run the application on both. This has been true for every optimus laptop I've personally owned.

All video output goes through the igpu no matter if the igpu or the GPU is doing the actually processing of the application. I have heard of certain outputs being GPU connected only, but never heard of anything only being connected to the igpu and no way to use the GPU with it.

*Maybe I'm not understanding the question or concern. Sorry if I am misunderstanding it completely. I've seen certain apps have issues with optimus, but never heard of optimus causing problems like igpu only on certain displays.

**There are two different things going on, which makes me wonder if that is confusing some folks.

1)The igpu handles just the video output (display only), no processing, or anything effecting game performance

2)Optimus can set either the igpu or the GPU to handle the game processing, then only the video will be passed through the igpu to the screen. This happens without affecting performance. The only downside is having to screw with the intel drivers to get resolutions and refresh rates configured. I’m struggling with adding 2560x1440 now because of this.

Does that make more sense explained that way?

 

Did a BF4 test before repasting and cooler. Here's the results:

in 15 Minutes of BF4 Ultra Settings on native resolution:

Max Frames 52
Min Frames 30

Thermal Throttling went up as high as 53% (Major indicator of performance drop as this was during gameplay)
CPU usage goes between 30% on average
CPU Max Temp: 90C
CPU Avg Temp: 87C
CPU Avg Frequency: 2.36GHz
Power Limit Throttling went up as high as 43% (Not an issue as this was at game startup and game close)
Current Limit Throttling went up as high as 32% (Not an issue as this was at game startup and game close)


I did not include GPU as there's no issues with it so far.

 

Looks like they used some sealants around the edges to cover some chips.... now to use that IPA to clean the rest off completely.

 

That is some terrible paste job.

 

Repasted with Gelid GC Extreme:

Idle temp at 37-40C (unplugged; before was 52C)

Further testing in a bit to break in the paste.

Edit:

Using forced max clocks-

Max temp: 90C
Min temp: 72C
Max CPU Clock: 3.47GHz
Avg Clock: 2.56GHz
Min clock: 0.82GHz

Max frame: 62
Min frame: 28
Avg: 42

Thermal throttling: 60% max, 13% avg
Power Limit Throttling: 100% max, avg 17%
Current Limit Throttling: 100% max, avg 21%

TDP max: 53W
TDP avg: 37W

Game: BF4 on native resolution using Ultra preset.