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    Current/EDP Limit Throttling - all the time on battery

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by CocoLoco, Dec 13, 2019.

  1. CocoLoco

    CocoLoco Notebook Guru

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    I have started getting the Current/EDP Limit Throttling warning all the time while on battery. Did not used to do this. Note the GHz -- really low. ThrottleStop confirms the same thing. Plug it in and it goes away.

    The obvious idea is quiet fan mode. But it does not matter. Same with any fan setting. Tried removing undervolting, reinstalling control center, but still there.

    Anyone know how to fix this?

    Thanks!


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  2. Deathalo

    Deathalo Notebook Consultant

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    Same exact thing happening to me on my brand new Aero 15 OLED. I bought this as a workstation machine but it's practically unusable unplugged. It maxes out at around 15w (instead of anywhere near 45w) and the CPU hovers between .8-1.5ghz MAX. I just tried cinebench on it and it didn't even get close to 50 degrees celcius because the CPU is clocked so low. I have throttle stop installed, and undervolted -160mv, tried disabling BD PROCHOT, I enabled Ultimate Performance mode in the windows power settings and turned every power saving setting off and every thing to max performance/quality that I could find. I even uninstalled the gigabyte smart manager and ai to see if that would help, but didn't. Last thing I tried was disabling DPTF in the BIOS and STILL it is limited to this low wattage. What do I have to do to make this an actual working laptop that can run chrome on battery without hiccuping?
     
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  3. CocoLoco

    CocoLoco Notebook Guru

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    Have you complained to GB yet? If now, do so. The throttling message all the time got their attention and my case got escalated beyond normal support. I'm still waiting to hear back.

    I am in exactly the same position as you. I bought this to use mostly unplugged, and it is useless in its current state. Compiling code takes 3x longer than my old computer did unplugged.

    Another thing to be aware of is quiet fan mode. This throttles it even more.

    And what if you do plug it in? The circuit whining/chirping drives you crazy and will not go away unless you disable turbo boost.

    I have never regretted buying a laptop before, but I regret this one.
     
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  4. Deathalo

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    I have not, honestly since it's still in return windows with Amazon I may just return it and see if a replacement is better. Has Gigabyte offered any solutions or a replacement for you, or have you found any other solution to this?
     
  5. CocoLoco

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    Based on what I have heard from GB, this is how they were designed to work. Aero was designed for gamers, and pretty much sucks for non-gpu intensive uses. I have purchased many laptops and built countless desktops for my own use, and this is worst mistake ever.

    I have not found any better option for my needs, however. They all suck right now. Should have kept my XPS 15. Was not perfect, but at least it was quiet.
     
  6. Deathalo

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    That doesn't make any sense, they designed the laptop to be practically unusable on battery?? .8ghz can't even run chrome properly, my 4-year old Rzer Blade Stealth is faster on battery than this machine, this can't be normal right? I'm just wondering because I would think everyone would be losing their minds over how bad this is on battery power.
     
  7. CocoLoco

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    My 7th gen i7 XPS 15 did not throttle to this extent.

    It would be interesting to compare the U low power i7 CPUs with H on battery. I'm guessing there is little difference. U's may be faster.
     
  8. Deathalo

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    I mean, that's what I'm saying, my U i7 dual core is faster on battery than this 6-core H i7, there's no way that should be right at all.
    In throttle stop when I unplug the laptop "EDP Other" is RED on Core, GPU, and Ring, it's almost constantly throttling to under 1ghz (usually around 800mhz) and there's no way to stop it. People also say to change the Power Limit 3 setting in TS to "2" but I can't input that, TS just goes back to 1, and I can only set it to 0 or 1, and neither seem to help. What is wrong with this thing? I'm very close to just exchanging it to see if that helps, and if it doesn't, it goes back. I may as well have a desktop if I can't use this unplugged.
     
  9. CocoLoco

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    One thing that will help with clock speed is to enable processor performance boost mode. If you google it, you will find a registry file to add it to power settings. After this, you can turn on turbo boost (even in quiet mode) increase the clock speed. I have seen mine over 4 GHz. I am not sure how much it helps at the end of the day though. Since it still throttles as soon as there is any demand.

    Another thing regarding Throttle Stop: Mine runs Intel Extreme Tuning automatically. Aero Control Center will not work without it. So with TS, you have two programs doing the same thing and possibly competing...
     
  10. Deathalo

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    Do you have notebook fan control installed by any chance? I just uninstalled that as well as the control center and now I am not getting any throttling on battery any longer. I think I read somewhere the fan speed is tied directly to the throttling on this machine, so that could be one of the main culprits.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Nice, and I have seen these powercfg options but haven't played with them as the range of normal power plan settings and advanced options have accomplished the same for me - or so I thought / think.

    Has anyone played with the range of options to see if they have a performance benefit effect on benchmarks and day to day applications?

    This paper has been around since 2017 so many current CPU's should be included.

    Power and performance tuning
    10/15/2017
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...uning/hardware/power/power-performance-tuning
     
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  12. CocoLoco

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    I tried uninstalling everything - Control Center, XTU, etc. It seemed to me to retain settings last set. It does seem like XTU is likely how they manage throttling. I don't know why else they would have it loaded/running all the time.

    Quiet fan mode does add to throttling (in addition to being on battery.) Performance boost mode will override this to some extent, however.

    How are you measuring throttling?