Computex 2014: Aorus X3 & X3 plus, 13.3 & 13.9" gaming laptop!

Why would people get this over the Asus GX500? Only reason I can think of is the extra performance of the 870m over the 860m, but as we've seen the 870m can be quite the heater inside such thin frames, while the 860m is much more manageable. The GX500 will also likely have a better screen (100% NTSC!) And have PCie storage. Furthermore I think 4k is actually a lot more valuable than 3k because it scales evenly to 1080p which I prefer over 900p. You aren't going to be gaming in 1800p, and will be hard pressed even at 1440p with the x3. Pricing seems to be in favor of Asus as well, with estimates being around 1799-1999 USD. Idk, thoughts guys?

 

For me it's portability and abit of personal preference. I owned a couple of laptops all 14". I prefer it rather than 15".

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Accodring to Xoticpc the ETA is end of August. Now it's really a hard choice since by Q4 there might be Maxwell. I might hold off till Q4 and see what's coming, really wanted an X3 with Maxwell, couldn't ask for more!

 

HT - Any word on release date? Or the possibilities of a review unit?

I have seen a Q3 release date (placeholder?) - we are entering that quarter as we speak.

I know you did a previous review on the x7 (Great job!) and eluded to maybe getting a system to review for the x3.


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I thought there won't be maxwell for 870m's. sorryh, noob question if I'm missing something.
If this is a possibility I'll probably hold off as well.

 

There are now leaks about the maxwell gtx 880 at the other thread. Look for the maxwell thread by cloudfire you'll see it there. I'm guessing if there's an 880 there should be an 870 aswell. Maybe it'll be released by Q4 2014 or Q1 2015..

 

Is it just me, or are others having deja vu in regards to looks (i.e ROG)?

 

I've preordered my x3+ in the UK, ETA remains end of July (but ill believe it when I see it).

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That is awesome! When you get it I would love to see some temps and your opinion of fan noise under load and see exactly how good/bad the big giant vents in the back are.

 

Will do. I did a comprehensive review and whatnot for the old vaio s13p a couple of years back, I'll do the same here. I doubt it'll deliver by end July though, you know how these companies are with dates to try and entice preorders....

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Thanks Petrov!
I'm very curious to see how well the cooling system works and how loud the fans get under full load.

 

Petrov - where did you order yours from?

 

Overclockers.co.UK

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cheers mate.

 

Anyone know when xoticpc will have this for preorder?

 

XoticPC is apparently going to have then on pre-order mid august - then about 1 month later start shipping - and from what I read they will have a 2 week advance distribution on other US retailers.

All this is second hand from another post elsewhere - but burned into my brain cause I want one so bad

 

Affordable Laptops - laptops, notebooks for sale online Australia (Australia) have the Aorus X3 and Plus models for pre-order now.

I'm so tempted to get one, as I just cancelled my gs60 ghost pro 3k order after reading about heat issues.

However I'm also pretty keen on the Asus GX500 - any idea where we'd be able to get that in Australia? Or even internationally?

 

Anyone know if the pricing change a bit? Last time I heard it was +$2200 dollars which is a bit. Still better than razer but still..

EDIT: WOW, just found out that xotic will be to first to have to auros here in the states mid august.

 

This laptop sounds amazing but I share the same concern with many of you...how can it possibly handle the heat?

Quick question, I checked the dimensions of the 13.3 and 13.9 inch version and they are exactly the same. So I'm assuming the screen just takes over more of the bezel?

With the increase in resolution (X3 13.3inch at 1440p and the X3+ 13.9inch at 1800p) for the X3 +, would any of you recommend getting this for an all use work/gaming laptop? Wouldn't the extra resolution enhancement just generate more heat?

Thanks

 

I'd personally get the X+ because you can easily downscale to 900p (1600x900), from my understand there shouldn't be any resolution problems like blurriness or anything. I don't think the extra resolution will general more heat, I'll just cause less FPS on native resolution, but everyone knew that. It will use haswell for the CPU though, which doesn't make any sense because broadwell should be available in the coming months right?

I'll probably wait longer and wait for the broadwell refresh. From my understanding it's an 870M kepler non maxwell right?

I hope this can handle the heat better then the razer blade 14. I also hope noise it's a problem. This laptop would make a great college laptop for me

 

It would be great if they offer a version that uses less power. I know its kind of counterproductive but it seems to be a great idea for mobility and longevity. Not to mention it generate less heat.AND its a lower price.

I was thinking something like the 860m as that thing uses less power than the 870M. That way the performance junkie can have more power if they desire while I just want a more affordable laptop.

 

what makes you think heat is going to be a problem? it uses the same design more or less to the x7 which has no heat issues. the nx500 pre-review is looking to be a wash since it has no bottom intake vents and is already running way to hot with just 850m gddr3, most likely the gx500 will be the same. the razer blade and ghosts were also way too thin with insufficient cooling design, just basing off the x7 the x3s are a superior product in build design and quality to anything else available (mostly metal, dual exhaust vents/dual fans). you are saying you want something more affordable with less power, there is a ton of options in that segment available right now

 

Does anyone have any pics of the power supply? I want to see how big and bulky it might be, I hope it looks like the razer blade PSU

 

I recall reading the power supply is 180W, cant find the source at the moment. The X7 also has a 180W power supply, im assuming the X3 would use the same one. Have a look in HTwingnuts review of the X7 there is a photo with a comparison to a couple other power supplies. It will be bigger than the blade power supply.

 

I'd like to point out as an owner of an X7 v1 that both v1 and v2 have heat issues. I don't know where you found your information, but heat is a very real issue with both laptops. I had to repaste my CPU 5 months after purchasing the laptop. There's alot of power crammed into the thin chassis, and there's not much room for airflow.

 

Here's another video of the Aorus X3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O34aZb41ss

Can't understand it though

 

there is a full long review here (13 pages ! ) 유일무이한 13.9인치 게이밍 노트북 AORUS X3 PLUS 쿨엔조이 리뷰 :: 쿨엔조이 / 리뷰
also in korean....

didn't know for the spec changes, now we have:
CPU : Intel Core i7-4950HQ
GPU : Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870M 6GB

 

I'm having a feeling this laptop is going to run hot like the Razer Blade, and have a loud fan. I think I'm going to wait until broadwell then

 

Thanks, best information so far. I used google translate and the review states that it is a pre production model, retail units should have i7 4710HQ. However the x3's are shown here ( AORUS gaming laptops notebooks Australia) with the i7 4860HQ, so we can't be sure.

Temperatures in the above review looked good to me.. 85 for gpu and 89 for cpu, I would consider using Intel XTU and undervolting to drop the cpu a couple degrees. Noise is something that can't be avoided in thin gaming laptops. For me it should be quiet coming from a desktop with crossfire 6970's

Also surprised how easy it overclocked +100Mhz on core and +740Mhz on ram, that should bring it within 10% of 780M. Lets hope they all overclock like that.

 

Way too much CPU for that little chassis. No need for it really.

 

Do you guys think a desktop version would be released first or at the same time as the mobile? I'm in the market for both.

 

Of the Aorus? Probably not.

 

its going to please some at least.

I like it, specially that you can OC both and the temps as far as that review goes are quite stable highish, however not throttling highish

 

With that review, how do you guys think the X3 compares to the RB14 especially with heat? thanks.

 

kind of like an i7 4810MQ in your sager?

What are the other options though? an i7 dual core w HT is not powerful enough and would not sell, the 37W i7 4712HQ is more expensive for less performance? the i7 4710HQ is the logical choice and the chassis appears to manage the heat load from the information we have so far.

Pretty much the same if not a slight advantage to the X3. From memory the blades gaming gpu temp is in the high 80's and cpu was low 90's. Main difference is the razer has a 37W cpu where this has a 47W cpu.

Australian retailers are advertising early September avaliability now.

 

Will the laptop show lower temps if I don't play at ultra settings? Razer without the card reader was the deal breaker for me.. If this laptop runs too hot I'll wait till it has a maxwell refresh..

 

Really tempted to get this version of the X7 but with rumors of a new Maxwell makes me think I should wait for it and her another laptop brand and model.

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Wuddup wit' dat ridiculously washed out NTSC color gamut on dis lil mang dough? 72%, fo' real?! Am I bein' played by AORUS ryte nowuuu?

I was prepared to make the CLEE-UH sacrifices this lappy has over the Asus GX-FIVE-HUNDY, but dis is makin' me SHAKE mah head. Gonna need a lappy by late August o' Septembuh, should I cops dis 13 incher or meditate it out until the Sept./Octob. release of duh GX-FIVE-HUNDYYY...?

Does calibratin' affect the color gamut or is it a static spec?

 

72 percent is basically all you need unless you are editing photos, it covers 100 percent of the RGB color scale

 

I'm going to be doing digital art on it, so this is really makin' me roll in muh bed with first world problems. You think it will still be legits?

Is the gamut a static spec or can it increase its range with calibration?

 

Try using english if you want people to take you seriously, I feel like I lost intelligence reading whatever that was.

My understanding is the 72% is what this screen is capable of reproducing when properly calibrated, if it is not properly calibrated the colour gamut will be lower.

To me you have a couple options, pick up a laptop and an external monitor with better colour reproduction now or if this doesn't suit your needs wait for the GX-500 or whatever becomes avalible if/when Maxwell launches later in the year.

 

Duly noted, 'n' I undie. I believe the first option is not worthy of being an option, seeing as, for the most part, people are purchasing for the screen and portability.

I'm really going to need a laptop late August or early September. Perhaps, I can stretch it towards late September, but that would correlate to surviving a solid 1 month without a computer. When do you suppose the GX500 will see the light? I also understand that the Zenbook NX500 will pack about the same specs as the GX500, only really being different by packing a GTX 850M, as opposed to the GTX860M.

Do you know whether the 850, 860, and 870 are significantly spaced out in performance? I could make sacrifices on the graphics if it means better color reproduction. Of course this is irrelevant if the GX500 comes about around the same time as the NX500.

 

Fair call

Your guess is as good as mine, initally they were saying September-October. I have no idea how consistant/accurate Asus avaliability times are.

Have a look at NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M - NotebookCheck.net Tech but generally speaking there is a 10-20% step up in performance between each card. If you are a gamer it is considered best advise to get the most powerful graphics card you can as it will be the limiting performance factor and will appear outdated quickest. But only you can make the call if graphics performance or screen quality is the most important factor.

 

seems the x3 plus will be available in china prc within a.couple of days. really looking forward to it's temperature test results and hope that will be better than gs 60 pro...

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looks like there'll be a tough competition now with 13-14" gaming laptops with Alienware launching Alienware13 soon.

Upcoming Alienware 13 to be Dell’s Thinnest Gaming Laptop | Maximum PC

 

Most consumers who are informed enough to know about X3+ will know about the Alienware 13's ULV processor, which will be a deal-breaker until Broadwell comes around at the very least. Unless Intel surprises us in a massive way, the AW13's graphics card will be bottlenecked by the CPU at launch. No such issues with the X3+

I was initially very excited about the mystery port on the back of the AW13, thinking that it may be for a proprietary external GPU—but that eGPU would be bottlenecked by the laptop's CPU as well. The AW13 might end up being a competitor to the Gigabyte P34G V2, but not the X3+

 

It's static. 72% NTSC is probably going to be 98%+ sRGB. That's plenty good for pretty much anyone except highly professional photographers. I know many photographers who work on panels at this level on a daily basis.

 

there is a new review here : AORUS X3 Plus 輕薄效能不容小覷 - Mobile01 本站新聞
and also some videos on this youtube channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/RockB612/videos

 

Anyone know why they bothered with the i7-4860HQ option? It's not like Iris Pro is going to be that useful with an 870M on board. All it does is add cost. Am I missing something?

 

better onboard graphics means more performance in battery savings mode - ie when your not gaming and not plugged in the optimus shuts off the nvidia card and you can actually use the laptop as if it is a portable thing - running for several hours - there may also be other better power saving bits of tech in that chip vrs other ones - designed to get the total battery powered lifetime of the computer as a whole to some respectable number. (the videos from computex had the rep saying something like 4-6 hours if i recall correctly) This cant happen when the discrete chip is powered up - and the cpu is throttled at 100%.

The cost difference for an OEM like Gigabyte is minimal and the PR bonus of saying 6 hour battery life is enormous - even if its a lie - or only happens in the world where it is powered on and not doing anything for those 6 hours.

 

I can see how it's better than using discrete while on battery, but I rarely game on battery due to the throttling so I almost never use it. What I meant was if running HD 5200 over HD 4600 would have any real world differences to us all. Certainly not for brwosing the web and watching movies. They both have the same TDP but there's no real data out there on how much they drain the battery. I guess gaming on HD 5200 graphics could be better than the throttled GT 870M. You would have to manually force it to use the other card through because I don't think Optimus has settings for battery mode.

I don't really understand how you think the cost difference is minimal. Why would Intel make their flagship mobile CPU cheaper for Gigabyte? I'm sure Intel's posted prices are higher than reality but surely there's a $60-80 price difference between the i7-4510MQ and the i7-4860HQ.