Aorus X5 V7, X7 V7, DT X7 all estimated for June release in USA

@NewMan4Life2010 Maybe try to disable G-Sync for firestrike? Also you had a Aero 15 at one point? How do you compare it to the Aero? Thanks

Someone on the overclokers.uk is reporting a 13800 firestikre overall score; But Dave2d on Youtube reports 18000 firestike graphics score :/

 

I will try to disable G-Sync and try again. I had the Dell XPS 15 9560 but sold it. I was going to get the Aero 15 but decided to wait until this system came out.

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This is My first Aorus system. Do any know; if I upgrade my system to two SSD drives and upgrade the memory. Will I still have the two year warranty or it would void it.

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Yes, its ok and you'll still have warranty.

 

Where did Dave report that number?

 

@ 1:35

 

Just saw that as you replied. Yeah, those were prototype units so he might have had a different vbios or even a bigger power adapter perhaps? I don't care what the benchmarks he got were. The actual in game performance is not as fast as the 1070 certain or even the Zephyrus I tested a couple weeks ago. Aorus screwed up. My thoughts are they need to ship a bigger PSU and let us overclock it more.

 

Wouldn't shipping with a bigger PSU and overclocking defeat the purpose? Pumping more juice through it and increasing the clock would probably make it hotter and louder, and at that point you may as well get the full card and call it a day.

 

Not if it's slower than a lower price model that uses the same PSU and has the same physical dimensions...

Besides, the Zephyrus is way smaller and does just fine. And the physical dimensions of the PSU are smaller as well.

 

I just got my x5 MD in the mail yesterday and so far I'm loving it. I haven't run any real gaming benchmarks, but at 4k I am getting ~50fps in the Doom demo with the settings as high as they go, and ~60fps in Overwatch on Epic (I know, these games don't really push it, but they're what I tested with last night so there you go). I'm super happy with the performance so far! I guess I am one of the weird people who was willing to pay a bit more for a quiet laptop, even if it sacrifices a little performance, and so far the MD definitely delivers on that.

I think what most of us are assuming is that there is room to push the GPU more than its being pushed, without breaking the heat or sound limits that Nvidia wants for their MaxQ cards. You can look at the MaxQ design as a bottleneck if you like (I don't), but it would be frustrating if there is more throttling than there should be, because of the PSU.

The question in my mind is, would a 230 watt PSU really be too much for the cooling? Or is it more likely that the 200 watt PSU's were already sitting around for the other x5 v7's models. If the 230/ 250 watt PSU isn't exactly the same size and shape then they wouldn't fit in the x5 box.. which would require a redesign for shipping... easier to just ship it with a PSU that under performs a little bit and say it's for "MaxQ reasons". Those are my thoughts on it, but overall I'm loving this laptop

 

@mrhumbility Please do a firestrike test And also what is the estimated battery life? Is it quiet?

 

That was it, thanks. Odd though, because had to install Aorus's default NV drivers, uninstall that then able to upgrade to the latest drivers from Nvidia.

 

I just ran Fire Strike and got 14,560 with that same graphics driver warning that I've seen others are getting. I'm assuming it either has something to do with MaxQ still being pretty new, or because Aorus is pushing it's own MaxQ driver, as mentioned above?

Fire Strike Results

I haven't run any battery tests, and have not been using it for very long. Based on the little I've done so far with gaming off power though, I would guess somewhere around 1.5 hours? And probably around 3+ for regular use.. maybe? I need to use it more before I'm confident about regular or gaming times on battery power so take those times with a grain of salt. I will say that gaming performance off power is pretty drastically reduced (this is my first gaming laptop so I assume that's normal behavior)

Even under load I have no problem playing games without headphones. The speakers get loud enough to cover any fan noise and the speaker quality seems fine to me so that's pretty great. If you were playing a game like PUBG where very quiet footsteps are super important to hear then I would say you still want headphones, but just as much to drown out ambient noise as any laptop noise.

I just plugged in some analog headphones for the first time and have to say that whatever is going on with the fancy "ESS Sabre Hi-Fi Audio DAC" is really great. I just assumed that was a bunch of words, and I'm no audiophile, but music does seem noticeably better through this laptop compared to other things I plug my headphones into, so A+ there. (To be fair though, I don't know anything about audio quality, and don't have anything else to compare it against other than my phone and whatever audio the motherboard on my old-ish desktop is running).

 

Might be. But in my oppinion "Q-Max" is the reinvention of the "m" GPU Nvidia just got rid of. Only thing is: Now you got the oppertinity to buy a 980m that is more expensive than the regular 980.

Best regards

phila

P.S.: Aorus does not even ship adeqate PSU with the Aorus X7 DT V6 :-(

 

Well, I guess opinions are like belly buttons...everyone has one.

However people are totally overlooking the fact the the "M" GPU’s required a lot more power, ran hotter, and were therefore much noisier. In no way really does a Max-Q resemble the old "M" series GPU’s.

Unfortunately Alienware made the stupid mistake of putting Max-Q in their regular Alienware 15, where an OC'd nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 would outperform it for a lot less money. That is Alienware's stupid mistake, not NVIDIA's. Other companies, like ASUS and MSI were smart enough to put Max-Q in their slim and light laptops where they belong.

This horse is being beaten to death...the bashing just has to stop at some point when people realize that Max-Q was developed for thin and light laptops, so that they could draw less power, run cooler and run quieter...PERIOD. If this is not your cup of tea...fine...but just because it doesn't suit your needs, it suits plenty of other's needs, and wants, so there is simply no reason to bash it and call it funny names

 

As someone that sells these gimped machines I'm sure you have no bias whatsoever (sic).


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Correct...we sell them all, Max-Q and Max-P. Some people want Max-Q...the ASUS Zephyrus sales are through the roof...they go out as fast as they come in. Other people want the full power of Max-P. We only care about satisfying our customers needs and wants, and we have no bias whatsoever in doing so.

 

Do you think the X5V7 can get a much better score than the 1080Max-Q?

 

Reading your first sentence, I pondered why anyone would write down such a phrase at all...

By the way: In which way did I bash the card or give it funny names? In regard to my commentary this seems to be an overreaction (to my belly button).

@topic:

Someone who has voiced his (and again: just his) opinion on Q-Max quite elaboratley: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Opini...-efficiency-minimum-performance.232038.0.html

The author of this article points out that the 1080 Q-Max (110W) and the 1070 (115W) allmost have same TDP. So is it a wonder people are asking themselves if a regular 1070 would not work in a thin laptop as well?

And even if this would not be possible (as the 1080 Q-Max has more bandwith)... In my opinion nVidia just could give the customer more control over their cards.

Unfortunately one can not decrease voltage below a certain point and thus will not be able to throttle the card accordingly.

With a comparable tool like WattMan everyone could trim/tune his 1080 as he likes - without having to pay extra for less...

Best regards

phila

P.S.: Perhaps it is all a question of the branding: Why did nVidia not call the 1080 Max-Q -> 1070 Max-Q this would hint at the comparable performance, yet nVidia still could ask more money for the cooler/quieter card

 

Isn't this an exact example of what Alienware did? How can you expect people not to bash it if that's the case.

I'm totally with you that there's a place for maxQ. The Zephyrus and Triton are perfect examples. Unfortunately the Aorus is an example of when *not* to use it and I think people have the right to complain about it. Especially in this thread.

 

Here's a few: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13120485
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13031177
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13083227


Looks like they were able to see results from overclocking the CPU.

 

If you can get your hands on a bigger adapter that's compatible, I would definitely be interested to see what, if any, effect it has on performance.

 

My X7 DT is getting delivered on Friday so I'll be able to test a 250watt adapter then.

 

I'm thinking pessimistically you may run up against set limits in the power consumption, but I'll be happy if I'm proven otherwise.

 

I'm thinking the same thing. My last Aorus just shut down the PSU when it detected it wasn't legit, so I think this'll be the same

 

I'm working on running some battery life tests on my x5 MD, but these take a while to do. I just finished running PCMark10 over and over off the battery and it lasted right around 1hr 55min. I don't really know the best way to test battery life, but I believe this would be somewhere between gaming and normal use. I'll keep trying out some different scenarios over the next day or two and let everyone know how they go, but if anyone knows a specific test I should run for battery life benchmarks that would be awesome!

 

http://www.batteryeater.com/about.html

http://www.batteryeater.com/download.html
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As a heads up, newegg changed the return policy for the x5 MD to 'replacement only'

 

They must want more premier subscribers.

 

it's same for premier. I'd argue it negates the point of premier since the main perk is not paying the restock fee.

 

Interesting, I've never seen them refuse a premier return. When did they change the return policy, just today?

 

Per Newegg:
Replacement Only Return Policy

• Return for refund within: non-refundable
  
  
• Return for replacement within: 30 days
  
  
• Return shipping labels are free for replacement returns of the same item within the return policy period and can be obtained while creating your return online. You can create your return online here.
  
  
• You can learn more about our return process and guidelines in the Overall Return Guidelines and Additional Return Informationsections of this page.
  

This is our Replacement Only Return Policy. Items covered by this policy (those products for which Newegg states "This item may be returned for a replacement within 30 days only") must be returned to Newegg within 30 days of the invoice date for this policy to apply. Products covered by this return policy may only be returned for a replacement of the same item. If the original item is no longer available, a refund in the amount of the price originally paid will be issued. Products subject to this policy cannot be returned for a refund.

Obviously they can/could make exceptions, but they're certainly within their right to outright refuse based on the above. I had pre-ordered the x5 MD from them since it's an exclusive (hate exclusives), but on the day of shipping they said they ran out of stock and cancelled my order. 3 days later back in stock (and prior to that available for back-order), but they changed the return policy to replacement only, from the initial, regular 30 day refund.

 

Well you probably dodged a bullet anyway. No way I would pay more for this one over the base model X5.

 

Got the X7 DT. Big surprise to see a 265W adapter in the box. Funny how it has the same dimensional volume as the x5 one.

 

Interesting, I was able to file for a RMA of my Aorus X7 v7 yesterday, I will be able to get a refund once they receive the laptop. I'm returning it because I'll be getting mine from HID in the upcoming weeks. Funny thing is I was going to return the X7 v7 and get the X5 MD instead until HID contacted me about the X7 pre-order I had with them.

@Derek712 Hurry up and bench the DT, JK, =P

 

That's still not even as much as I'd like to see on any version as the X5. Come on, Aorus.

 

...... are you able to use the 265W from the x7 with the x5...?

 

No I tried. Different connection unfortunately...

 

The 265 Adapter actually looks pretty Bad@ss.

Thanks for posting.

 

It even has a USB port

 

Wow, it looks like they actually tried
I appreciate them tucking in the cable too! A shame that it's different connections.
.... now about that pink looking trackpad, is that really the color or did the camera mess up the color, or perhaps it depends on the angle at which the light hits it.... or maybe it's user configurable like the rgb keyboard?

 

The 265W is the one that came with the DT right?

 

It only turns that shade of red at very certain angles/ lighting. Mine usually looks more orange or yellow. I would much rather have a standard black trackpad myself though...

 

lol I wish it was configurable. It's not pink - it's a combination of my camera and the lighting of the sky from the sunset. It's weird because this orange is actually more subtle than it is on the MD. In fact, the x5 MD and the x7 DT don't even use the same trackpad. The x5 MD trackpad has a tacky silicone surface and the x7 is glass(or is at least as smooth as it).

the x5 MD trackpad is bright orange in almost any light and gets worse the more light there is. The x7 trackpad is more subtle in low light, looks slightly orange if light hits it from the sides, and looks red when light is hitting it from above.

It could just be me, but the keyboard also feels different. I haven't taken force readings on the keys yet but it's just a hunch.

I'm done with my x5 MD review and on to the x7 DT now. I'll try and get a benchmark up tonight if I have time. Lots of downloads going onto it atm.

 

Stock clocks
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21264227

GPU overclock level 4
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21264395

 

Is it me or do those scores seem weak compared to other 7820/1080 models?

Thanks for the post!

 

The stock score was ok but the overclock score was a little weak. There might have been something going on in the background - I'll be look into it some more.

 

Thanks for the prompt benchmarks!

I agree, I think it is a bit low. It seems to be almost between X7 v7 and some of the scores @phila_delphia posted on his X7 DT v6 owners lounge IIRC.

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Ahh, it's actually a 255W adapter. The extra 10W is for the USB. 5V 2A

 

Do you think the reason they don't ship a regular 330W is CPU/GPU temperatures? Or is it that they think that the weight of a 330W brick is too much

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