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    Aorus Release Behavior?

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by b3nni, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. b3nni

    b3nni Newbie

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    Hey,
    I'm new here and haven't bought an Aorus laptop yet. Since I was about to buy the x7 dt v8, I thought that I should ask when the v9 would be announced. I wouldn't like to buy a laptop now if I knew that a new version would be released in a month.

    Thank you for your help.
     
  2. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    The gigabyte ceo himself stated probably early next year but it all depends on nvidia if they will move their schedule forwards or backwards. The RTX chips are more. Power-hungry and even the rtx 2070 now needs 175watts so it will be a challenge to cool for laptops.
     
  3. alawadhi3000

    alawadhi3000 Notebook Consultant

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    Not a challenge at all, mobile chips have lower TDP than desktop chips, even if they have the same specs (base and boost clocks).

    For example, the mobile GTX 1080 TDP is 150W instead of 180W, same goes for the GTX 1070 Mobile which is 120W instead of 150W, some manufacturers kept the desktop TDP for their mobile cards.
    Max-Q cards had even lower TDP, along with reducing both base and boost clocks.

    If NVIDIA wants to do it its easy for them, The 215W TDP RTX 2080 can easily run in a 180W budget (just like the GTX 1080) with slightly lower actual boost clock.
     
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  4. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    The 1070GTX in a laptop if the bios has no tbeen adjsuted still pulls about 140watts under load.

    Its a challenge as in Nvidia wanted to promote equal power between desktops and laptops. With the current lineup they are unable to keep that promise.
     
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  5. MiSJAH

    MiSJAH Notebook Deity

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    I would advise waiting until January next year if Turing is your desire with the V9.
     
  6. alawadhi3000

    alawadhi3000 Notebook Consultant

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    Depends on the make and model, default is 120W, manufacturers can do up to 150W if they want.

    Equal performance between desktop and laptop will never happen, performance will be at least 5%-10% lower, probably thanks to lower RAM bandwidth and lower CPU clock.
     
  7. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    It's all guesses at this point. Intel is also due to release its 9th generation Core processors soon, probably within the next quarter. For a notebook with a 9th gen Intel Core CPU and Nvidia RTX 20 graphics, I'd think Q1 or Q2 2019 at the earliest. You'll see new products announced at CES in January.

    Charles
     
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  8. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    No it doesnt. I had an EVGA 1070FTW card, Overclocked to near 2100mhz and the Laptop 1070 at 1900mhz with its more cuda cores had equal scores. THats why I sold my desktop 1070.
     
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  9. alawadhi3000

    alawadhi3000 Notebook Consultant

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    The Laptop GTX 1070 has only 6.667% more Cuda Cores (2048 vs 1920) than the desktop version, so at best case scenario (areas where you are only processing limited, won't happen much) you need your desktop at 2027MHz to match your laptop GTX1070 @ 1900MHz, getting equal performance at 2100MHz with your desktop means that their was something wrong with it or the game/benchmark tested.
     
  10. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    Nope it was not did multiple runs. You can find fhe comparisons in my post history.
     
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    alawadhi3000 Notebook Consultant

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    What you are saying makes no sense bro, I bet your overclock on the desktop 1070 isn't 100% stable, happens a lot on Pascal chips.
     
  12. Svegetto

    Svegetto Notebook Evangelist

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    You're making a lot of assumptions here, like that the number of cores is linearly proportional to the clock rates, that clock rates scale linearly, that cuda cores scale linearly, and that it's all the same regardless of workload. In reality, things are far from that.
    It's very likely that in his benchmarks, the extra cuda cores were favored over higher clock rates which led to his results.
     
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  13. rinneh

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    It is stable, but the laptop 1070 also has a slightly higher throughput just because of the higher amount of cuda cores. Its not just mhz + cude cores = performance. There is more too it. I could overclock my GPU memory higher on my laptop for example as well (samsung vs hynix memory).
     
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    manlai Notebook Enthusiast

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    That x7 v8 looks so good. a thin laptop with a 1080 that doesn't melt? Figures as soon as I discover it, it's discontinued and I have to wait to see what's next... maybe at CES?