Aero 15 X w/ 1070 Max-Q

I thought it'd be great to have a thread dedicated to this laptop separate from the Aero 15 owners thread.

Below are the links that scrod and rkostadinov found with information on the laptop.

- https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-Aero-15-X-coming-with-GTX-1070-Max-Q-graphics.249578.0.html

- https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...it-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-max-q-im-test.html

I'm interested in how the addition of the 1070 Max-Q will affect performance, thermals and battery life. In addition, to confirming if the unit still has a FHD 60HZ screen or if it gets something better.

Lastly, do we know if it'll be a Newegg exclusive or if it'll be released to everyone, including re-sellers?

Thanks

 

The 1060 model was a warm machine. This may end up biting them in the arse.

 

That's my worry as well.

 

If I remember right, iunlock tinkered with the aero 15, and a repasting and a heatsink rebalance and managed to get those temps down significantly. So at the very least, there's room to mess with and fix it.

 

Factory thermal paste strikes again.

 

In the review it runs a little a hotter than the gtx 1060, but not by much. Let´s see in further reviews.

 

Do you think it's like running the regular 1070 with whisper mode?

 

A regular 1070 will have shipped in a system designed to cool it under normal load. It should still run better.

 

https://hexus.net/tech/news/laptop/110441-gigabyte-launches-aero-15-x-gtx-1070-max-q-design-laptop/

Still has the 60hz screen

 

Trying to keep the price down I'd guess. They'll save higher refresh screens for AORUS models in most cases.

 

Does it have an aluminum body this time? Or it's the same build as the previous model with gtx 1060?

 

Same as previous build.

 

To undervolt the CPU a little will help more than expected, so maybe that´s an option (throtthle stop) with the MaxQ 1070 on the Aero15X.

In the past i stand between Aero15(1060) and P56XT(1070) and choosed the P56XT(1070) upon performance, now I´m crying a little, but not that much as the P56XT is also a very nice machine and has his benefits (but the Aero15X also does, i mean the Formfactor - you know ).

Regards, aVa

 

It's all about where your priorities are, some prefer form factor, some performance, some a compromise. I think at this point though there's something for everyone.

 

Where is the 4K screen option? I don't see much point in selling the Aero 14 unless they have a 4K screen option that competes with the XPS line.

 

Maybe coming in another version, though I'd rather they made one with a 1080p 120Hz.

 

Seriously makes no sense when the comparable GS63VR has a 120hz screen to not put one in this. It won't be pantone but honestly the 1080p panel in these are trash anyways so why not?

 

Agreed, there's really no reason not to just put a 120 in unless they're selling down the 60Hz

 

I think 120Hz would always be G-Sync Panels, which put Optimus disabled. The batterytime of the device is one of the main selling points.

 

Unfortunately we don't design notebooks :/ lol, maybe one day we will have the "Holy Grail" device instead of constant compromises/trade-offs

 

I'm more of a mind that there should be a spectrum of devices where anyone could find what they were looking for on it. Right now there are gaps and the sweet spot machines are too expensive.

 

Nah. I mean the 1080p panel on the P56XT is IPS and also only 60Hz, but its definitely not trash, instead one of the better IPS 1080p panels out there, cause no backlight bleeding and pretty nice colors (spoken for my device). Prefer this definitely over (some) 120Hz GSYNC TN Panels (alike some MSI or in some Clevo - just some not all but in general, or in Lenovo or some Dell Inspirion 7xxx they´re more like containing "trashy" screens which not worth the price).

And, I am not sure but - if they put in a 120Hz 1080p GSYNC IPS panel, i guess there´s dGPU only and no iGPU option "on the fly" means switching in windows, but please anyone correct me if I am wrong. Not sure if graphics switch works then, but focussed on the Aero15 /X (if i want such a notebook beside of Gaming Focus) this will thread my battery lifetime, so the optional 120Hz IPS panel with GSYNC would be NICE (upon price) and 4K vice versa, but out of my perspective the entry level 1080p IPS should be fine (upon needs... thats definitely true)

But maybe i´ve missed something

 

Gsync and Optimus don't get along, you either need igpu disabled or the ability to use discrete mode in the bios to make it work.

 

Can you vouch for whether Optimus introduces input lag or not when utilizing dGPU on the local display? There were some posts previously about this, but I haven't been able to confirm whether this is a thing..

 

Definitely agree there, I think there are some devices bridging the gap with the Kaby-R U series processors (like this HP Spectre) and hopefully with the new Coffee Lake Mobile we will see more as well.

No you didn't miss anything , I was specifically refering to the Aero 15's default panel which I found personally to be garbage in terms of bleed due inherently to the manufacturing process Gigabyte uses. There actually is a 120hz Panel IPS used in but the Zephyrus and the EVGA SC15 whilst it's not perfect I think it would be a better option considering the GPU performance. GSync while nice isn't necessary and I'd take the optimus over that just for battery life. Unless they went the route of the MUX Switch like Clevo in which case YES DO THAT. Performance and Battery life one can dream.

 

It wouldn't be Gigabyte manufacturing process. IPS monitors are known for having a bleed. It is a very frequent thing with IPS. TN are the only ones you can basically guarantee will not have some sort of bleeding problem. I personally found the aero 15 to have very little of these issues, so maybe it just happened to be the one you had?


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I'm sure there are panels that are fine with the Aero 15, but I definitely was not the only one with issues in regards to that device and screen its bleed. It hasalso been noted in a similar model with the same panel the Asus UX550, they are very similar in design philosophy so I would lean towards the way they're put together than the panel. Either way, the panel isn't worthy of the device and should be considerably better in my opinion . That's just me though, give high resolution or give me HZ haha.

 

Interesting, I would lean more to blaming it on the source (the panel itself) rather then those manufacturers using it. If it's happening on multiple brands it would be personally cautious of blaming a manufacturer who is getting their panel from someone else and adding it to their machine. I do agree with you though, I would love a 144hz one of these days lol


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Gigabyte doesn't have anything to do with the manufacture of the screen. The only effect it might have on bleed is if the bezel is pressing on the display.

 

Get out of here with your logical assessment of the situation I'm trying to flame Gigabyte/Asus haha. But yea you have a point, my thing with bleed is it's mostly caused by pressure on the panel from the edges of the display frame. Considering both models use very small bezels I would lean on that pressure causing the issue and thus a design flaw, less a panel flaw.

 

That's exactly the point I was making just took more than one post .

 

Haha! Great point, guess I didn't think of the pressure. I thought with the 15 though they went edge to edge on the screen? Did I see that wrong?


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Not exactly, but it's pretty close. Any bleed would likely be on the bottom and top edges rather than the sides, because for most laptop manufacturers secure them there.

 

This.

My dream machine for work / road would have an 8th generation Intel U CPU, an Nvidia MX150 and a 94 Wh battery.

Most importantly, it would also have an adequate cooling system. The cooling system would define it's profile. Ideally it would be thin and light but I'd prefer proper function over form and if it had to be fatter and heavier, that'd be fine.

 

Sounds appealing to me, I'm not on the road often enough to miss my gaming desktop at home, so a laptop for me would be for email, basic word processing and netflix. Were I away from home enough to need performance to go I'd probably go with the smallest thing that would fit a 1060 and not melt.

 

I pray that master iunlock will use his devine abilitys to show us what this little beast can do with some taming!

 

In terms of display...according to these German reviews

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...a-geforce-gtx-1070-max-q-im-test.html?start=2
and
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...enfrohe-gigabyte-aero-15-im-test.html?start=2

the max brightness went down from 369 to 300 (although I believe 300 is fine)
the contrast ratio has increased from 1400:1 to 1100:1 (15X worse than 15)

the homogeneity of the illumination increased from 90% to 92% (which is better on 15 X than 15)
the color temperature average decreased from 6800K to 6500K which is optimal (this is better on 15 X too)

Isn't this a downgrade for 15X from 15?

but the reviewer is saying that the display on

15X is almost perfect and
15 is very good.

I don't quite understand. Is he right?

 

It is the same display in both Notebooks. Differences in temperatures, display measurememts and loudness are normal dispersion.

 

So, basically a slightly unhappy display for he review 15X.

 

Looks like Gigabyte is using samsumg SSD for 15 X. At least in S. Korea.

http://www.newstap.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=60061

google translation will allow reading it.

 

Newegg now lists the 15x for sale here the US. Specs show m.2 nvme pcie gen3x4 ssd, but only 1x16gb single channel memory

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...4233231&cm_re=aero_15x-_-34-233-231-_-Product

 

I might just be that guinea pig guy for this forum.

Not a real tester of any kind but...once they are on amazon, I might pull the trigger and answer some questions.

But, it has to be Amazon because it provides stress free return & replacement for prime members.

Replaced my DSLR twice last year. No fees, no argument, no bs.

 

The Aero 15 also came with just one 16GB stick installed. Good thing is, ther's a second, empty slot tu upgrade. What's also good is that they installed a NVM SSD instead of SATA. Bit of a shame that they didn't go for a 120Hz panel, kinda ruins the whole GTX1070 aspect.

 

Maybe you can clear this up? Gigabyte is claiming aluminum body?

http://www.gigabyte.us/Laptop/AERO-15X#kf

• NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 GDDR5 8GB with Max-Q design
• New color available: Pure black
• 7th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor
• 5mm Thin Bezel Design: Experience True Visual Immersion
• X-Rite™ Pantone® Certified: FHD Wide Angle Display
• 94.24Wh Huge Battery Capacity for Full-Day Productivity
• Thunderbolt™ 3: Up to 40Gbps
• USB 3.1 Type-C: 10Gbps / 5V 3A
• HDMI 2.0: Ultra HD 4K 60Hz Output
• Blazing-fast M.2 PCIe Gen.3 X4 SSD: Reach 2000MB/s
• DDR4 2400MHz – Up to 32GB
• GIGABYTE Fusion Keyboard: Professional Meets Style
• GIGABYTE Fusion Macro Software
• Unique Aesthetics with Aluminum Robust Body
• CNC Chassis: Brings Back the Art of Crafting
• Slim and Light Adapter with USB Charging Port
• Dolby Digital Plus™: Surround Sound Anywhere, Everywhere
• Intel 8265 WiFi card: With 3 times the speed

And Gamespot review says aluminum body?

https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/gigabyte-aero-15-x-review/2900-1503/

"The Aero 15 X uses the same chassis as Gigabyte’s Aero 15 before it. The biggest difference is that it swaps out the GTX 1060 in favor of the aforementioned GTX 1070. This means it uses a premium all-machined aluminum body. It doesn’t flex or creak undesirably like some cheaper laptops on the market. It also has very thin 5mm bezels around its display, which minimizes the notebook’s size. Its overall dimensions measure 14x9.8x.78 inches (356x250x19.9 mm). Coupled with its reasonable 4.6-pound (2.1 kilogram) weight, it’s a very portable gaming laptop."
Very confusing unless they are talking about the chassis inside the body?

 

Another article stating that is is finished in painted black aluminum.
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/09/...-puts-gaming-graphics-in-a-20mm-thick-laptop/

 

Newegg 15X sold out already. Patiently waiting for Amazon.

 

It says

• Unique Aesthetics with all aluminum robust body 94.24Wh Huge Battery Capacity for Full-Day Productivity

On Newegg description too.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...4233231&cm_re=aero_15x-_-34-233-231-_-Product

I thought the Aero 15 was only partially aluminum. If this is true I am so excited.

 

I can confirm that it has an Aluminum casing - the information I received was “For the Aero 15 is it’s always aluminum. It feels or looks kinda like plastic probably because of the NIL or the color we made”

Hope this helps!


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Any news about keyboard issue? ALT+CTRL+anykey and ALT+SHIFT+anykey

 

I believe this was resolved in a firmware update a while back and should not be an issue with the 15X


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