P7805u NOT 1920X1200

They make you a recovery disk and clear bloatware. That's about it.

 

It's not the new 7805u's (new shipment to your store but not the new batch). I bought mine a week ago and mine's manufacturing date was 11/29.

 

Since I just got done with doing it the right way I would say they did about half the NBR steps and cleaned some of the bloatware, but certainly not all. There is no way in a normal situation I would pay $60 for them to do that when I know I'm going to have to go in and do it right on my own but the situation dictated and at least I got the better monitor and a recovery CD out of it.

 

Like Rossman, my friend was able to exchange his wxga one with the floor model wuxga one. They did charge him the stupid $60 optimization fee also. Sadly it was an AUO panel, but still much more desirable then the WXGA res.


Thanks for all the pointers.

 

Way to go, Rossman26. Glad you took my advice Just kidding! I would never be happy with the lower res display. The money spend is will worth it.

 

Lies, don't post any more

 

Care to explain how that's a lie? Current HD display technology doesn't scale well (even with processing, which helps a good amount but there's still a noticeable difference, especially the closer you sit to the display), it's a fact. Take a lower res image and put it on a higher res display, it looks worse when fitting the screen no matter the size than something at its native resolution shown fitting the screen on the same display.

 

I don't know what the hell sernal is talking about, maybe that the gpu can run everything maxed out on a wuxga screen?

 

If native resolution is of importance gaming, then the 1440x900 is the better long term investment than the WUXGA is your huckleberry.

If you don't care about running non native resolution, then WUXGA is your best bet.

 

Do you even know what the hell you're talking about? My previous post was about this laptop running everything perfectly "with maxed setting LOL" at 1920*1200 which is a complete lie. I hate how people spout out crap about games running perfectly smooth, when in fact its running between 5-10fps. You can never get away with it, just like the people lying about snes emulation speed on psp.

 

You know, if you could manage to post a non-offensive reply of more than 5 words, maybe we would know "what the hell" you're talking about!

SemiGamer's post had THREE statements in it, one of which talked about native LCD resolution with respect to gaming. Your insult (I mean reply), called them all lies. Suppaman's post went on to explain LCD scaling with regards to gaming, which is true.

Now, you come in here insulting again, and spewing stuff about how no game can be played at 1920x1200 at more than 5-10fps? Care to back up your claims with some links to benchmarks showing that all games play at 5-10fps at that resolution on a 9800M GTS?

And your analogy to snes--I think it is wasted on this forum...I doubt most of anyone here is into snes emulation on a psp...

You really need to relax.

 

I bought the 7805u today at best buy today and got the 1440x900 resolution. I'm going back tomorrow and see if i can get another one that might have 1920x1200. Can any of you guys give the batch number thats guaranteed to have the 1920x1200 ?

 

Try this thread - h e r e - djjumpe.

 

Just so you guys know. I have the 1440x900 screen. My friend got one too. The display was 1920x1200 though so if worse comes to worse you may be able to talk the store manager into letting you take home the display unit. My understanding is that they may give you a discount. Anyways... I have a preference to the lower resolution.

1. It provides a clearer picture at lower resolutions. Nothing like trying to take a 1920x1200 screen and change it to show a 1440x900 resolution.

2. Higher better framerates and more leniency to improve picture quality though AA and FSAA filtering. Higher texture quality in game. For example Half-Life 2 with just about everything (and I mean it) maxxed out in game at 1440x900 is definately possible. On that note I have been able to play Crysis on High @ about 20-35 fps depending on environment and terrain.

3. Don't have to read very tiny text at that high of a resolution or set the DPI to 120 in order to compensate. It reads just fine at 1440x900.

4. My last laptop was at the same resolution and I liked the way it was perfectly.

The negative? Can't run 3dmark Vantage due to their requirement of a screen that supports 1280x1024. In order to get it to run on the laptops that do not have a height that high you have to connect to an external screen.

Here is a 3dmark06 benchmark that I ran just to give you guys an idea of it's performance. Done at 1280x768 resolution and 179.48 drivers w/ physx enabled.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10085142

P.S. - I have been working on de-branding the OS to remove the gateway bits leftover in the welcome screen and system properties. I ended up leaving the latter since it provides a quick link to the support site.

To remove the gateway portion of the Welcome screen then navigate to C:\windows\system32\oobe\info and either delete or rename oobe.xml

This file contains all the pre-setup and welcome screen data.

To remove the branding from the System Properties you need to modify the registry. It is recommended to back it up before you proceed. Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OEMInformation and either delete or change the information in there. If you delete the information and later need to restore it you can use the attached registry file to put it back.

The gateway install can be successfully be upgraded to Ultimate Edition using either Windows Anytime Upgrade or a Retail disc. Note that I had to have the webcam software do a repair on itself as it got stuck stating something was already using the device. You will also want to remove any optical drive manipulation software. This includes, but not limited to, AnyDVD, CloneDVD, Daemon Tools, Alcohol 52%/120%, iTunes, ect. BTW, iTunes install a burning filter onto the drives... If you don't then your optical drive will end up not loading back in correctly with a code 39. Also Daemon Tools will not uninstall correctly after the upgrade for some reason. It gets stuck early on and does not proceed.

EDIT: If you don't debrand the OS before upgrading to Ultimate then don't worry. It will end up being that way afterwards with the sole exception of any Gateway specific software.

 

I got 10 percent off my 1050$ priced floor model that was out 2 hours with the 1920 by 1200 screen this past sunday. Those 2 hours I spend standing in front of the computer with 3 best buy managers telling them if they wanted to sell me a computer it was going to be the floor display.

all the others had 139 numbers that I believe are the 1440 by 900 screens. I am going back to check the s/n number but mine has 138 and all the boxed 7805u's had 139's in the s/n number. The managers refused to open a box to verify it even though I promised I would buy the floor model and they were going to setup another one anyway.

 

Oh just to add to what I said.. I had the P 6860FX which I sold yesterday for quite a good deal for me and the person who got it. I've had the 1440 by 900 screen. It was great at the time but this is a huge upgrade for me. I love the new screen and with both side by side I would take the higher res screen any day. Now I won't be taking an external monitor when I go to lan parties like the one I go to next weekend. It's great not to have to carry more stuff.

 

has anyone tried the toshiba dynadock u to use on a lager monitor dvi instead of vga ???

 

I just recently bought a P7805u from Best Buy and it had the "139" on the serial. But there were no other ones to get so me and my friend each bought one. We bring em home and we realize that both of them have 1920X1200 screen resolutions. And the display models serial had "138". So I don't know if you can even go by the serial number anymore to get the higher resolution display...

 

Wow that is good news. Mine is still performing great and it went through the lanparty with High marks across the board on every game we played. I've been very happy with it. Glad you guys got the high resolution screens though. They really are superb.

 

You could have bought a 7801u from Tigerdirect.com for the same price...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=367051

 

That's kinda odd. Both the box as well as the laptop should have matching serials. Bestbuy scans the serial in the box to record which ones they sold.

 

Gateway started with a 1920x1200 Res on this machine. I have one.(EDIT:Meaning I have a 7805u) But found that most "gamers" weren't using it while gaming so they decided it was overkill. Stiil had a bunch in stock and still do. But to "protect" themselves from false adverts, they label ALL boxes 1440x900. I got the 1440x900...too bad. They are all now being made with 1440x900 but if you are lucky you can get a 1920x1200 if you haven't bought one yet. You can upgrade as the Graphics card will support it. They are about $150 on eBay.

 

Yeah me and my buddy got super lucky. We went to 2 best buys searching for the 138 serial numbers. We had them look through 10 boxes. (We both work for the company so they were willing to help us out :-D) but we didn't find a single one with a 138 serial. Disappointed we decided to just get the 139 model. But i love the 1920X1200 screen. I put it at max resolution and max settings from most games I play and haven't had a problem with it. :-D

 

I believe his point was that suppaman was saying that the 9800 would play all games besides Crysis and GTAIV. So it's not the fact that all games play at 5-10fps that he was making, he was just saying that all games do not play PERFECTLY as suppaman was trying to make out.

Also, he correctly quoted suppaman leaving out all his information about how displays scale and such, so he was right in his argument. Even though he was a little blunt about it calling him a liar, I don't see how you guys got so confused over what he was trying to say.

The hype over 1920 x 1200 is really quite dumb for a gaming machine where performance and FPS matters.

 

Well, I schleped back to BB and found that the demo model was indeed 1920x1200 model. Mine is 1440x900. I explained to manager and he was going to exchange for the correct resolution. However, they only have 2 in stock, the demo and one that was optimized and that one was 1440x900 resolution. They both had 139 in the code. Mine has 139 in the code. So which codes had the 1920x1200 resolution again? I could exchange for the demo but I just can't bring myself to do it.

 

Buy a 7801u! I can't believe that people searching for a 1920x1200 screen when TigerDirect is selling the 7801u for the same price!

 

I already paid for the model I have, for $1149, but why shouldn't I get the resolution that was demonstrated in the store and that others have on the 7805u? I am just trying to get what was shown to me without having to spend more money.
The 7805u came with a faster HDD (7200rpm) vs. the 5400 rpm on the 7801u and would cost me 1299-1149= $150 more at least, without extended warranty.

 

Gateway is notorious for providing false information about their products. The P-7801u also comes with the 7200 rpm hard drive, although it's a different brand.

 

i like the 14x9 screen
but good luck

 

Thats not what is stated here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...?EdpNo=4187624&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs

or here:
http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2009/PSeries/P-7801u/P-7801usp2.shtml

 

Stop wasting your time, return the laptop then buy the 7801u. Problem solved.

 

Went by one of the Best Buy's in Sarasota, Florida, today and the demo model of the Gateway FX P-7805u is showing a 1920 x 1200 resolution screen.

I asked one of the salesman what happens if a person buys one expecting the screen they are demonstrating and it has what it says on the box - "1440 x 900" screen.

He said, "I dunno, that's never happened."

 

I realize that's what it says. But that's not what is true.

 

Correct, anodos -

I believe at both sites you'll find some "fine print" that says something to the effect that the "specifications are subject to change without notice" or similar.

 

I must have got extremely lucky... I knew nothing about this panel lottery or anything with these laptops... I just went by the display model and it looked good. I bought mine over the past weekend and Its a 1900 x 1200 LG... It had 139 in the serial number. I think its kinda strange considering it is brand new and it says 1440 x 900 on the laptop itself.

 

yeah the, that's why I said, can we really go by the 138, 139 serial anymore. I mean the display model on the floor of my best buy is a 138 with a 1920x1200 resolution but the one I picked up, brand new in box, and clearly said it had a 1440x900 display has a 1920x1200 resolution with a 139 serial. The confusion continues lol

 

How do you upgrade the HD in these or add another??

 

Remove about 4 screws holding the hard drive bay cover on (in the center near the front on the bottom of the laptop) then pull the hard drive holders towards the front of the laptop and then upward to get them out. Then put hard drives in em and reinstall.

 

So ing gay 13910B 14x9. Went to 10 bestbuys here in san diego, none of them has the wuxga display. Gotta be keeding me.

 

Does anyone know which screen to get from Ebay or Newegg or the like to install so i can have the 1920x1200? There are several on eBay but not sure if they'll fit/work. Some for the 6831, some for the 7811. Both should fit but would like some assurance.

 

GREAT Post. I intentially sought out the 1440x900 myself for this reason. Gateway is marketing the thing as a gamers desktop replacement and a 1920x1200 screen kills its gaming potential. Granted my "desktop" isnt so impressive with the bigger icons but ingame the 1440x900 really shines and I can crank up every setting. It will also have legs over the 1920x1200 which will struggle with new releases.

Different folks have different purposes for the P7805u. If you are big gamer like me, the hidef panel is a significant handicap and should be avoided. The 9800GTS is a good card, but not the best. I'd prefer a 1680x1050 myself, but again that's more pixels to push!

 

For some odd reason, playing crysis on 1920x1200 its like the same on 1440x900 when i drop the resolution down. I get same fps about 21-34. Stock drivers, 179.24 DX10

 

Most games now will let you change the res. in the in-game options anyway nowadays. Right? Just about every game I have does. Or you can set nVidia profiles to run for specific games to I believe. I guess what I'm saying is, if you have the 19x12 then you shouldn't have to change your desktop settings every time you play a game. But I have also had a few games that, after playing, will not revert back to the original desktop settings. So I guess it all comes back again to personal taste.

 

lcds have to interpolate off native resolution. Aka blurry image.

 

Yeah, I was about to say that. OK. Not really. But I guess it makes sense. It has to be dumbed down, per se.

 

The two games I play runn perfectly at 1900x1200 and I love the desktop realestate. If I didn't have a PS3 maybe I'd want a better gaming laptop but again I have one..........

 

1440x900 really makes sense over the wuxga. I feel like i wanna return and get the wxga one. Took a long time for me to realize this. Im pretty mad about it.

 

I play Crysis @ 1920x1080 on my HDTV @ 30-35 fps high settings. I use the 182.50 drivers and clock my GPU to 750mhz core, 950 mem, 1500 shader(the same). Can run GTA IV too @ the same res with high settings and very high shadows at about 30 fps.

 

I'll make a deal with you. I'll buy it from you and send you mine. You take paypal? I'm serious!!

 

WUXGA resolution can do so much more though (smaller icons are a big plus), and I believe I read somewhere that higher resolutions/smaller pixels downsizes better.